Welcome to the forum! You are now a full member.Hector Leonardo wrote:His cock will shrink?NeverendingAbyss wrote:Hector Leonardo! Tell me- What happens if Pinoccio says "My nose will grow"?
When Gilmour is able to write something like "The Wall", then he can call it Pink Floyd. He just lacks the depth and the sense of concept that always was the main strenght of Pink Floyd. Sort of a wannabee wimpy Waters. And extremely bitter wimpy Waters it seems.adrian9 wrote:you are on drugs.., "on a island" is a brutal record, and that rock opera of waters..I dont recall the name right now....is so bad and pointless, I dont know why rockers who succeed in a band think they can do better alone. they NEVER do better alone. no even paul mc cartney did, what are the chances anyone can?Hector Leonardo wrote:It's a good comparison, although they actually went to court and the result as I remember it was very complicated. I don't know who owned the Pink Floyd name, but Tolkki gave the name Stratovarius to his ex bandmates without any legal hassle.adrian9 wrote:I dont know if this comparison is valid, but this is pretty much like when Roger Waters left pink floyd, he didnt what , gilmour, manson and wright to keep calling themselves pink floyd?? WHY the hell not?!? you quit!! we didnt!! and after some awesome albums released by the floyd without waters, we went on and talk shit about they former bandmates music and always pic on gilmour, this went on for a couple of years eventyally a reunion here and there. in the end this is all rotten music bussiness.
I have always liked Roger Waters much more than Gilmour, who is a wimpy kind of composer with not much to say.
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I'm sure they are all laughingYeah well momentary lapse of reason and the division bell sold millions more then any of Roger Waters solo records, so who's the one laughing?
That's one of the funniest things in this. To me he hasn't done any strange decisions lately. If you mean disbanding (sic) the RR, then I think that is not a strange decision at all if you really think about it.Secondly I'm not attacking anyone but why are several people getting butt hurt about others observations on Tolkki, the fact is he has been making some very strange decisions lately and his career has been suffering because of it.
Don't get me wrong here I love Tolkki's music and I wish him well but you can't justify to me all that's been done already, I also find it hilarious that it's a sin to say anything about Tolkki yet Kotipelto is fair game, he has many fans too you know, me being one of them.
Well I guess we people just comment from our perspectives. To me it seems a crime to say anything positive about Tolkki I'm sure they will. For how long, we don't really know.As far what the future holds for Stratovarius I think they will continue to make albums for many years to come because I believe they are all talented individually, Stratovarius is a BAND not one person.
You implied, that Tolkki dislikes Polaris, because he is bashing Kotipelto, Jens and co or he is trying to get attention. Have you ever thought, that Tolkki's opinion can be just a normal opinion?Can you tell me who is telling you that people can't be free to say whatever they want about Polaris? The only thing I'm saying and I think you don't want to understand, is that if a fan says that, nothing more happens, just some discussion in a topic. But if TT says that, is clear that everybody is gonna feel that he is trying to get some attention and that is bashing Stratovarius. Tell me where I said that he can't have his opinion about Polaris, tell me. I just said that of course he is free to say his opinion and make his own review as he did in RR forum, but using the words he used to describe his opinion and being TT it's clear that he created a bad environment. Mainly against himself. So, common sense was not there, was not in his words to describe the new album of the band called "Polaris", so then you have to carry with it. That's all I said.
I don't want to use my words just to distort the discussion. I think, that it's you who are trying to distort the discussion. It's funny, that you are acting a "true Stratovarius" fan, althought you are writing wrong information about the band?That phrase was in the context of the things we were talking about Stratovarius, in 2004. If you want to use that sentence just to distort the discussion that I was having with Hector Tolkki, I don't give a shit.
I don't work in a mental hospital, but I just know some persons, who have some kind of mental illness. I have never met Tolkki. I'm just saying, that it's unfair to say, that "he/she has totally lost his/her mind", when some person has a mental illness.That is a word, slander are another things like simulate an stabbing. What are you trying to mean telling me that you know people with several mental illnesses? That you work in a mental hospital or that you are not a java bot and you are a person with his life like we all have and you know all kind of people like everybody knows?
Sorry, I thought that you said, that "Tolkki has lost his mind". And why Hector Leonardo doesn't have a right to defender Tolkki? How many times I have to repeat, that there's freedom of speech?And why do you link that with TT, reading that part of the discussion that was refering to Hector Leonardo?
Songs like Falling Star, Higher We Go and Somehow Precious sounds like Kotipelto's solo material. They would have easily fitted to all Kotipelto's solo albums.And yes, I don't like Kotipelto solo career and I don't want that they play Sleep Well, cause I don't like it at all.
That kind of band, where everyone in the band take part to the writing process are more than one person, but Stratovarius was one person, because that one person wrote 95 % of it's songs.Stratovarius is a BAND not one person.
No, that will happen in 2015.gnurt_gp wrote:for me the best solution for TT is to rejoin Stratovarius. I'm not sure if the guys want it, though
Better not happen.
I think TT is much better in handle those situations now,he must realize something, after all the disasters in the past.Kosmo wrote:No.
Simply no, TT is an amazing composer and guitar player but if he would rejoin Stratovarius that would propably in a couple months time fuck up the whole band.
He was the one who left the band...If he wants to return again after all the shits he told about them, hypocresy is the only thing that comes to my mind. Let this the way it should be, TT from one side and the Strato guys from the other: They both need thatgnurt_gp wrote:for me the best solution for TT is to rejoin Stratovarius. I'm not sure if the guys want it, though
if TT hates TK too much and vice versa, thenKosmo wrote:Yeah, except that i think he hates TK's guts at the moment isn't that what's going on?
Stratovarius is a band. Not a person. Not a solo project. The band was OWNED by one person, who wrote most of the music, but it was still a band. This was also a band that saw marginal success until the addition of seasoned musicians Jens Johansson and Jorg Michael. Those two, and their contributions to Episode and Visions are a large part of what made the band successful, maybe even as much as Tolkki's compositions.Babylonian wrote:You implied, that Tolkki dislikes Polaris, because he is bashing Kotipelto, Jens and co or he is trying to get attention. Have you ever thought, that Tolkki's opinion can be just a normal opinion?Can you tell me who is telling you that people can't be free to say whatever they want about Polaris? The only thing I'm saying and I think you don't want to understand, is that if a fan says that, nothing more happens, just some discussion in a topic. But if TT says that, is clear that everybody is gonna feel that he is trying to get some attention and that is bashing Stratovarius. Tell me where I said that he can't have his opinion about Polaris, tell me. I just said that of course he is free to say his opinion and make his own review as he did in RR forum, but using the words he used to describe his opinion and being TT it's clear that he created a bad environment. Mainly against himself. So, common sense was not there, was not in his words to describe the new album of the band called "Polaris", so then you have to carry with it. That's all I said.
You asked me to tell, where you said, that Tolkki can't have opinion about Polaris. You wrote in your porevious posts, that "tons of words against Polaris". That implies, that you are not allowing Tolkki to have negative opinion about Polaris.
I read that Tolkki's review of Polaris and there was common sense here. He didn't said, that "Polaris sucks" and "Kotipelto is an idiot", like you are implying. He criticised Polaris very matter-of-fact way. Example he said, that there was too few of guitar playing and Polaris doesn't sound like Stratovarius. I agree with him. Imo Polaris just doesn't sound like Stratovarius except some songs.
I don't want to use my words just to distort the discussion. I think, that it's you who are trying to distort the discussion. It's funny, that you are acting a "true Stratovarius" fan, althought you are writing wrong information about the band?That phrase was in the context of the things we were talking about Stratovarius, in 2004. If you want to use that sentence just to distort the discussion that I was having with Hector Tolkki, I don't give a shit.
Why you are implying, that Hector is Tolkki. Why there can't be a fan, who defends Tolkki. Tell me why?
I don't work in a mental hospital, but I just know some persons, who have some kind of mental illness. I have never met Tolkki. I'm just saying, that it's unfair to say, that "he/she has totally lost his/her mind", when some person has a mental illness.That is a word, slander are another things like simulate an stabbing. What are you trying to mean telling me that you know people with several mental illnesses? That you work in a mental hospital or that you are not a java bot and you are a person with his life like we all have and you know all kind of people like everybody knows?
Sorry, I thought that you said, that "Tolkki has lost his mind". And why Hector Leonardo doesn't have a right to defender Tolkki? How many times I have to repeat, that there's freedom of speech?And why do you link that with TT, reading that part of the discussion that was refering to Hector Leonardo?
Songs like Falling Star, Higher We Go and Somehow Precious sounds like Kotipelto's solo material. They would have easily fitted to all Kotipelto's solo albums.And yes, I don't like Kotipelto solo career and I don't want that they play Sleep Well, cause I don't like it at all.
That kind of band, where everyone in the band take part to the writing process are more than one person, but Stratovarius was one person, because that one person wrote 95 % of it's songs.Stratovarius is a BAND not one person.
it is so true and I think TT made a big mistake in believing that he himself can do good with R-R project and destroy Stratovarius. I think he must know it was a mistake of his life and wish for a second chance. I wish he had a second chance, though.RazielSR wrote:Everybody knows that the success of Stratovarius was the perfect line-up that TT found. Thanks to the arrival of Kotipelto, Jens and Jörg. TT is a fantastic composer and know (or at least knew) how to find the perfect melodies and compositions for every of the members, but without the rest of the band, Stratovarius would be nothing, as it was before 1994.
If it's just the songs and his compositions, then TT could be famous with another singer, keyboardist and drummer. And that's not happening.
All the bands are good for the team, not for just one person.
Rebel wrote:Stratovarius is a band. Not a person. Not a solo project. The band was OWNED by one person, who wrote most of the music, but it was still a band.
That'd make itRazielSR wrote:If it's just the songs and his compositions, then TT could be famous with another singer, keyboardist and drummer. And that's not happening.
All the bands are good for the team, not for just one person.
. And TT actually had a second chance, and he blew it away again...You mean now a third one? Then we're all stupid 
Man, this place does sound like a Spanish InquisitionThat'd make it
I'm sure he will be happy when you respect him againggonza43 wrote:He doesn't have the abbility to hold another band...What he should do is, as you say, start a solo project with lots of guest musicians, and that's all. With that, he can have my respect again
