Not so good news...

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Re: Not so good news...

Post by antonio » Thu May 20, 2004 8:43 pm

tk is undoubtedly right.. but he had to consider the particular TT state... and i agree with StratoHeart...
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Re: Re: Not so good news...

Post by khamael » Thu May 20, 2004 10:15 pm

browneyedgirl wrote:
I won't give up.....I WON'T!
Until Tolkki comes here, and posts with his own fingers that Strato has died! I have never gave up on anything, or anyone, in my life until it was utterly hopeless. I will not give up on this wonderful band! :) TT needs our faith, but of course, if he does not want it thats another story. :buh:


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Post by browneyedgirl » Fri May 21, 2004 1:35 am

khamael wrote:
browneyedgirl wrote:
I won't give up.....I WON'T!
Until Tolkki comes here, and posts with his own fingers that Strato has died! I have never gave up on anything, or anyone, in my life until it was utterly hopeless. I will not give up on this wonderful band! :) TT needs our faith, but of course, if he does not want it thats another story. :buh:


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Stronger than steel we're the legions of the Twilight... :( :buh:
Damn Right.....and we are the legions of Booga Booga! :)
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Re: Not so good news...

Post by Luca » Fri May 21, 2004 3:59 am

Wait, this was not an interview, but a report of some time spent speaking free with Kotipelto. So it was the report of something that Timo said during his days in Italy, at that night at Buddha cafè. It was night, they were having fun, and they spoke, and if Timo says that Tolkki seems like an idiot, it was just during a conversation and not during some interview. It's easier to speak free in this case.
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Re: Not so good news...

Post by StratoHeart » Fri May 21, 2004 4:36 am

It's easier to be TRUE in this case.

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Re: Not so good news...

Post by browneyedgirl » Fri May 21, 2004 5:15 am

The guys will put on 4 shows in four days---if this does not "force" the 2 Timos to come together, talk, and decide something, nothing will. :buh:
I hope all goes well, in any case....and I hope for some good reviews next week about those shows. :)
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Re: Re: Not so good news...

Post by khamael » Fri May 21, 2004 3:33 pm

Luca wrote:
Wait, this was not an interview, but a report of some time spent speaking free with Kotipelto. So it was the report of something that Timo said during his days in Italy, at that night at Buddha cafè. It was night, they were having fun, and they spoke, and if Timo says that Tolkki seems like an idiot, it was just during a conversation and not during some interview. It's easier to speak free in this case.

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Re: Not so good news...

Post by Mr Torture » Fri May 21, 2004 4:28 pm

Luca wrote:
I read something about an interview of Kotipelto while he was here in Italy, he said that Tolkki changes so many times idea about everything, that only if he'll become normal Kotipelto will speak again with him... Kotipelto says it's Tolkki's band, and he doesn't want to think about it and that he's still very angry with Tolkki for his behaviour. He judges his statement very strange too, and he seems like an idiot... Other things I'll write later, now I've to go out.
I think that's bullshit.
Kotipelto would never say in public that Tolkki is a idiot or something like that. He is now fully concentrated in his carrer and I think Stratovarius will never return. But I still have 1% of hope =D

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Post by jean_luc_picard » Fri May 21, 2004 7:16 pm

khamael wrote:
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ehehe gnosis, do not try to run over the supreme Lord Of Booga-Booga!!! :D =P

:lol:

Btw JLP i cant go to your site...is there any problems?
none that I know of... maybe it was just a small problem on the server. Now it seems all ok.
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Post by jean_luc_picard » Fri May 21, 2004 7:24 pm

browneyedgirl wrote:
I won't give up.....I WON'T!
Until Tolkki comes here, and posts with his own fingers that Strato has died! I have never gave up on anything, or anyone, in my life until it was utterly hopeless. I will not give up on this wonderful band! :) TT needs our faith, but of course, if he does not want it thats another story. :buh:
me too, but I think it would also be a great waste if kotipelto had to quit his solo career for Stratovarius. I think they can manage it, anyway. And then manage also the contribution of Koti to stratovarius songwriting... :)
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Re: Re: Not so good news...

Post by jean_luc_picard » Fri May 21, 2004 7:31 pm

Mr Torture wrote:
Luca wrote:
I read something about an interview of Kotipelto while he was here in Italy, he said that Tolkki changes so many times idea about everything, that only if he'll become normal Kotipelto will speak again with him... Kotipelto says it's Tolkki's band, and he doesn't want to think about it and that he's still very angry with Tolkki for his behaviour. He judges his statement very strange too, and he seems like an idiot... Other things I'll write later, now I've to go out.
I think that's bullshit.
Kotipelto would never say in public that Tolkki is a idiot or something like that. He is now fully concentrated in his carrer and I think Stratovarius will never return. But I still have 1% of hope =D

Take Care
I do not think that's bullshit, he may have used some harsh words but it's ok... I mean, it's absolutely true that when you're talking with someone freely you express yourself in a different way than if you were speaking publicly or in some very formal situation. Probably with "idiot" he wanted to say that he acts like he was some, not that he is. I've heard and read things much much worse than this about all this matter, so I wouldn't be so scandalized... =P =P

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Re: Not so good news...

Post by Luca » Sat May 22, 2004 2:37 am

It's no bullshit, Kotipelto just said what it's true. It's easier if you are at a party with friends like he was here in Italy. And he said Tolkki seems to be an idiot... not that he's an idiot. Especially finnish people are thinking a lot before using some wrong words. :)
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Re: Not so good news...

Post by browneyedgirl » Sat May 22, 2004 7:01 am

I could be wrong, but I think after this weekend, next week sometime, we will find out the fate of Stratovarius...:)
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Re: Not so good news...

Post by antonio » Sat May 22, 2004 9:21 am

I think that this whole noise is making a kind of publicity to the band...
???
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Re: Not so good news...

Post by khamael » Sat May 22, 2004 1:49 pm

maybe.... :eyes

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Re: Not so good news...

Post by antonio » Sat May 22, 2004 2:32 pm

I hope that they're not taking advantage of the attention that is on them... :buh:
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Re: Not so good news...

Post by khamael » Sat May 22, 2004 9:05 pm

:lol:

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Post by jean_luc_picard » Sun May 23, 2004 9:32 pm

antonio wrote:
I hope that they're not taking advantage of the attention that is on them... :buh:
in italy we say "bene o male, basta che se ne parli", which in english would sound like "it doesn't matter if people talk about it in good or ill ways, as long as people talk about it" ... :D
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Post by Agent Orange » Mon May 24, 2004 2:30 am

jean_luc_picard wrote:
antonio wrote:
I hope that they're not taking advantage of the attention that is on them... :buh:
in italy we say "bene o male, basta che se ne parli", which in english would sound like "it doesn't matter if people talk about it in good or ill ways, as long as people talk about it" ... :D
This is our way of showing our favorite artists we care and that most of us support them in any way we can.
If they're taking advantage of this, then that shows that they read whatever we say about them, which I consider as good, since that proves that they at least listen to their fans.

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Re: Not so good news...

Post by MetalForever » Mon May 24, 2004 5:50 pm

Hi!!
Have you been on Kotipelto site lately??
In one forum there´s written that TT had a some good talkings to Koti and that things seems pretty good.
Let´s see........
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Re: Not so good news...

Post by khamael » Tue May 25, 2004 2:31 am

Let's hope.

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Re: Not so good news...

Post by MetalForever » Tue May 25, 2004 2:51 pm

I´d put it here, but I see I´m late.
I´m sorry ;)
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Re: Not so good news...

Post by khamael » Fri May 28, 2004 6:27 pm

Dont worry...

Be "Booga" happy... ;)

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Re: Not so good news...

Post by browneyedgirl » Sun May 30, 2004 1:19 am

Apparently, TK said all this before TT talked with him. Anything can happen in two weeks-so, maybe TT did finally have that talk with TK.
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Re: Re: Not so good news...

Post by khamael » Tue Jun 01, 2004 11:25 pm

browneyedgirl wrote:
Apparently, TK said all this before TT talked with him. Anything can happen in two weeks-so, maybe TT did finally have that talk with TK.

Btw...TALKING...is a good thing to start having social exchanges. :)

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Re: Not so good news...

Post by Makis » Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:58 am

Well... like we can't do much about this... of course we all wish TK to forgive TT, but it won't be possible till one of them says "ok, let's talk about this"...
All through the night he's lying awake...
Wondr'ing how much more can he take...

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