Black Metal
Suositelkaa jotain tyyliin Burzumin Filosofem-levy, jossa olisi melko pitkiä biisejä. Ja mahdollisesti jotain vanhan Mortiis-tuotannon tyylistä musiikkia.
Re: Black Metal
Jonna,
Mikäli Moonsorrow ei ole tuttu nimi niin siinä tämän hetken (ainakin siis itselleni) kuuma nimi. Uudella levyllä on 70 minuuttiin saatu mahtumaan kokonaiset viisi kappaletta ja tyyli on sellainen "eeppinen ja raaka" á la Bathory. Myös muut Moonsorrown levyt kannattaa tsekata. Uusin on siis nimeltään Verisäkeet.
Mikäli Moonsorrow ei ole tuttu nimi niin siinä tämän hetken (ainakin siis itselleni) kuuma nimi. Uudella levyllä on 70 minuuttiin saatu mahtumaan kokonaiset viisi kappaletta ja tyyli on sellainen "eeppinen ja raaka" á la Bathory. Myös muut Moonsorrown levyt kannattaa tsekata. Uusin on siis nimeltään Verisäkeet.
I'm going nowhere. All the way to nowhere.
Re: Black Metal
Ostin sen heti kun ilmestyi ja hyvin toimii.Figaro1 wrote:Jonna,
Mikäli Moonsorrow ei ole tuttu nimi niin siinä tämän hetken (ainakin siis itselleni) kuuma nimi. Uudella levyllä on 70 minuuttiin saatu mahtumaan kokonaiset viisi kappaletta ja tyyli on sellainen "eeppinen ja raaka" á la Bathory. Myös muut Moonsorrown levyt kannattaa tsekata. Uusin on siis nimeltään Verisäkeet.
Omistan jo kaikki muutkin Moonsorrowin levyt.
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~ EMPEROR Discuss Upcoming Shows, Possibility Of New Studio Album ~
EMPEROR's creative core, guitarist Samoth and frontman Ihsahn recently spoke to Terrorizer magazine about their upcoming reunion concerts and their plans for the future. A few excerpts from the chat follow:
On the band's break-up:
Ihsahn: "When we announced the split in 2001, we didn't think we would do anything more with EMPEROR ever again."
Samoth: "At that point, we both had other priorities that we wanted to pursue and we both felt that splitting up EMPEROR was the best thing to do. We really wanted to focus on other things, and felt it was the only right thing to do."
Ihsahn: "The decision was also based on the feeling that EMPEROR had a lot of integrity and that if we were going to end it, we should end it while still created great music. For us, the decision was made in the black metal spirit. Since Samoth and I pulled in different directions, we didn't see any point in continuing. The core of the band wasn't intact anymore. We probably could have made more money continuing with EMPEROR, but we didn't start playing black metal to earn a living."
Samoth: "We talked about doing a couple of farewell concerts right after the split, but all those discussions always ended up in us doing long tours all over the world, and we really didn't' want to do that. Now we have the time and the inspiration to do a couple of exclusive shows, just like we discussed. Another thing is that when we split up, we hadn't played since 1999 and 'Prometheus' was a studio project. Everything was done in a studio, and we didn't really feel like starting to rehearse again just to do a couple of shows at that point."
Ihsahn: "This is something we want to do now, and we're not doing it for anybody else. We're doing these shows for ourselves and the fans that have supported us and not the business behind everything."
On the band's surprise three-song gig at Scream's 15-year anniversary party at Oslo, Norway's Rockefeller on Sept. 30, 2005:
Ihsahn: "It was good to work forward towards a deadline for that gig, and it was a great way to announce the other headline gigs. It was a much better way to do it like that rather than just announce it via the Internet."
Samoth: "When the gig came up, it wasn't just something we maybe would do, but something we actually had to do. We had to be prepared for that concert, even though it was just three songs. It wasn't easy since we're quite busy with our own bands and projects, and at the same time, we had to keep it a secret, which was both very hard and not that much fun. We didn't even tell our closest friends and family, so we got some hate mail afterwards from them.
"It wasn't easy to keep the rehearsals a secret either. There are several bands rehearsing in the same building and we were quite lucky that so few found out what was going on. We just had to tell those who caught us rehearsing that we were thinking of doing some concerts sometime in the future, but nobody knew that we were going to play so soon."
Ihsahn: "It was like I'd just warmed up for the rest of the gig, and then it was over. I hadn't been on a stage since I played with PECCATUM at the Inferno Festival in 2000, so it was a bit frustrating to only play three songs."
Samoth: "The main difference between me and Ihsahn is that I've played more concerts with ZYKLON than we ever did with EMPEROR, and I have a lot of experience with that now."
Ihsahn: "I've become a studio rat over the past years, but I was surprised that I wasn't more nervous before the gig. Actually, it was really good fun to play again, and it was quite easy to get into the songs again. I still had them in me. Anyway, I'm quite used to being in that setting, even though I haven't played live for a long time. Samoth and I have played together since 1988, and we have done a lot together, so I'm on safe ground no matter what. With that in mind, that concert was an easy job with only three songs and it couldn't go wrong. We would have to do a lot wrong if people ended up disappointed."
On their touring plans:
Samoth: "We could tour America twice if we wanted to now, but we don't see any point in doing that."
Ihsahn: "We just want to do some exclusive shows now which we didn't get to do after the 'Prometheus' album, and only the Inferno Festival and Wacken Festival are confirmed at the moment [the interview was conducted before the gigs in New York and Los Angeles were announced - Ed.]. People probably have a lot of different opinions about that, and some people probably think that we want to earn some extra cash and do a stupid reunion thing now, but that's not the case. People can think what they want about this, but we just want to do some exclusive concerts now and that's it."
On the possibility of recording a new EMPEROR studio album:
Samoth: "What to answer on questions about a new album is probably that it's the one thing we've planned the least, so we don't have anything to say about that. The most important thing about these concerts is that this is something we want to do."
Ihsahn: "That was the thought when we first entered the rehearsal place again too and we just wanted to check out how this went. We had a really good time on that first rehearsal and felt we could do something again. But we wanted to do everything our way, and now we have some great opportunities as musicians, like headlining the Wacken Festival. We're doing this for our own personal gain, in accordance to the black metal principles."
Samoth: "We both have our own bands and projects that are our main priority and which we will continue to work with no matter what happens with EMPEROR. We don't want those projects to be side-projects to EMPEROR. EMPEROR is the side-project now, which is kind of strange."
Samoth: "If we're ever going to do another album with EMPEROR, it will not be another studio project. It has to be done in the rehearsal room."
On what fans can expect from the upcoming shows:
Samoth: "We will play something from all the EMPEROR albums, and that means that we'll also play some songs from the 'Prometheus' album. But the show will be somewhat traditional. We have a good feeling on what the fans want to hear, so there are songs that we just have to play. We have more than enough material to pick from, so that won't be a problem at all."
Ihsahn: "Even though we'll have to leave some songs out, we hope we can get the fans to feel that they didn't miss anything when they see us now. I don't think we'll go out as a parody of ourselves."
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EMPEROR's creative core, guitarist Samoth and frontman Ihsahn recently spoke to Terrorizer magazine about their upcoming reunion concerts and their plans for the future. A few excerpts from the chat follow:
On the band's break-up:
Ihsahn: "When we announced the split in 2001, we didn't think we would do anything more with EMPEROR ever again."
Samoth: "At that point, we both had other priorities that we wanted to pursue and we both felt that splitting up EMPEROR was the best thing to do. We really wanted to focus on other things, and felt it was the only right thing to do."
Ihsahn: "The decision was also based on the feeling that EMPEROR had a lot of integrity and that if we were going to end it, we should end it while still created great music. For us, the decision was made in the black metal spirit. Since Samoth and I pulled in different directions, we didn't see any point in continuing. The core of the band wasn't intact anymore. We probably could have made more money continuing with EMPEROR, but we didn't start playing black metal to earn a living."
Samoth: "We talked about doing a couple of farewell concerts right after the split, but all those discussions always ended up in us doing long tours all over the world, and we really didn't' want to do that. Now we have the time and the inspiration to do a couple of exclusive shows, just like we discussed. Another thing is that when we split up, we hadn't played since 1999 and 'Prometheus' was a studio project. Everything was done in a studio, and we didn't really feel like starting to rehearse again just to do a couple of shows at that point."
Ihsahn: "This is something we want to do now, and we're not doing it for anybody else. We're doing these shows for ourselves and the fans that have supported us and not the business behind everything."
On the band's surprise three-song gig at Scream's 15-year anniversary party at Oslo, Norway's Rockefeller on Sept. 30, 2005:
Ihsahn: "It was good to work forward towards a deadline for that gig, and it was a great way to announce the other headline gigs. It was a much better way to do it like that rather than just announce it via the Internet."
Samoth: "When the gig came up, it wasn't just something we maybe would do, but something we actually had to do. We had to be prepared for that concert, even though it was just three songs. It wasn't easy since we're quite busy with our own bands and projects, and at the same time, we had to keep it a secret, which was both very hard and not that much fun. We didn't even tell our closest friends and family, so we got some hate mail afterwards from them.
"It wasn't easy to keep the rehearsals a secret either. There are several bands rehearsing in the same building and we were quite lucky that so few found out what was going on. We just had to tell those who caught us rehearsing that we were thinking of doing some concerts sometime in the future, but nobody knew that we were going to play so soon."
Ihsahn: "It was like I'd just warmed up for the rest of the gig, and then it was over. I hadn't been on a stage since I played with PECCATUM at the Inferno Festival in 2000, so it was a bit frustrating to only play three songs."
Samoth: "The main difference between me and Ihsahn is that I've played more concerts with ZYKLON than we ever did with EMPEROR, and I have a lot of experience with that now."
Ihsahn: "I've become a studio rat over the past years, but I was surprised that I wasn't more nervous before the gig. Actually, it was really good fun to play again, and it was quite easy to get into the songs again. I still had them in me. Anyway, I'm quite used to being in that setting, even though I haven't played live for a long time. Samoth and I have played together since 1988, and we have done a lot together, so I'm on safe ground no matter what. With that in mind, that concert was an easy job with only three songs and it couldn't go wrong. We would have to do a lot wrong if people ended up disappointed."
On their touring plans:
Samoth: "We could tour America twice if we wanted to now, but we don't see any point in doing that."
Ihsahn: "We just want to do some exclusive shows now which we didn't get to do after the 'Prometheus' album, and only the Inferno Festival and Wacken Festival are confirmed at the moment [the interview was conducted before the gigs in New York and Los Angeles were announced - Ed.]. People probably have a lot of different opinions about that, and some people probably think that we want to earn some extra cash and do a stupid reunion thing now, but that's not the case. People can think what they want about this, but we just want to do some exclusive concerts now and that's it."
On the possibility of recording a new EMPEROR studio album:
Samoth: "What to answer on questions about a new album is probably that it's the one thing we've planned the least, so we don't have anything to say about that. The most important thing about these concerts is that this is something we want to do."
Ihsahn: "That was the thought when we first entered the rehearsal place again too and we just wanted to check out how this went. We had a really good time on that first rehearsal and felt we could do something again. But we wanted to do everything our way, and now we have some great opportunities as musicians, like headlining the Wacken Festival. We're doing this for our own personal gain, in accordance to the black metal principles."
Samoth: "We both have our own bands and projects that are our main priority and which we will continue to work with no matter what happens with EMPEROR. We don't want those projects to be side-projects to EMPEROR. EMPEROR is the side-project now, which is kind of strange."
Samoth: "If we're ever going to do another album with EMPEROR, it will not be another studio project. It has to be done in the rehearsal room."
On what fans can expect from the upcoming shows:
Samoth: "We will play something from all the EMPEROR albums, and that means that we'll also play some songs from the 'Prometheus' album. But the show will be somewhat traditional. We have a good feeling on what the fans want to hear, so there are songs that we just have to play. We have more than enough material to pick from, so that won't be a problem at all."
Ihsahn: "Even though we'll have to leave some songs out, we hope we can get the fans to feel that they didn't miss anything when they see us now. I don't think we'll go out as a parody of ourselves."
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Re: Black Metal
Jea, kun aikanaan Emperor Wackeniin kiinnitettiin niin siinä varmistui oma lähtöni Saksan maalle jälleen ensi kesänä.
'Religion is the most malevolent of all mind viruses' - Arthur C. Clarke
Re: Black Metal
Onko kukaan kuullut vielä sitä Dissectionin uutta levyä?
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Re: Black Metal
Harvaan bläkkikseen lämpenee. Mutta ne joihin lämpenee ovatkin sitten aivan loistavia bändejä. Mm. Mayhem, Burzum, Darkthrone ja Horna ovat bändejä, joissa on true black metalliin kuuluvaa agressiivisuutta, jota mielestäni pitää true bläkkiksestä löytyä.
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Re: Black Metal
Melkein kokonaan kuuntelin sen silloin, kun se oli mp3.comissa kokonaisuudessaan streamattavana; itse pidin biisejä tosi hyvinä, löytyy tarttuvia kohtia ja koukkuja ja hyviä riffejä. Mutta sellaisen havainnon olen ihmisten mielipiteiden perusteella tuosta levystä tehnyt, että mitä kauemmin on Dissectionia kuunnellut, sitä vähemmän Reinkaos- levystä tykkää; itse vasta vajaat vuosi sitten bändiin kunnolla tutustuin, ja Reinkaos vaikuttaa ihan pakkohankinnalle. Ei ehkä pärjää The Somberlainille ja Storm of the Light's Banelle, mutta ihan ok vaikuttaisi. Pitää jaella tuomiot kunhan tuon saan ostettua ja kunnolla kuunneltua lävitse.Jonna wrote:Onko kukaan kuullut vielä sitä Dissectionin uutta levyä?
Each funeral just makes
us realize, that life's
but a series of goodbyes.
us realize, that life's
but a series of goodbyes.
Re: Black Metal
Nyt olen saanut hankittua sen uudenkin levyn ja kerran kuunnellut läpi. Maha kali -biisi kuulostaa vähän erilaiselta, kuin viime vuonna ostamallani sinkulla.
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Onko muilla mielipiteitä toisen legendaarisen bändin, Satyriconin, uudesta levystä? Itse ostin sen vasta. Välillä aika hidastakin. Ja sitten on Volcanon tyyliä muistuttavia biisejä. Pakkohankinta tuokin.
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Eipä ole Satyricon juuri koskaan jaksanut sen enempää kiinnostaa. Livenä tullut kuunneltua ja silloin kyllä toimii mainioist.
Pari topikkiin sopivat keikat tullut nähtyä tässä vähän ajan sisään, eli Nosturissa Satyricon / Enochian Crescent ja Tavastialla Carpathian Forest / Keep of Kalessin / Hate.
Pari topikkiin sopivat keikat tullut nähtyä tässä vähän ajan sisään, eli Nosturissa Satyricon / Enochian Crescent ja Tavastialla Carpathian Forest / Keep of Kalessin / Hate.
'Religion is the most malevolent of all mind viruses' - Arthur C. Clarke
Re: Black Metal
Black Metal on mielenkiintoinen suuntaus. Ainoita suuntauksia jotka ovat pystyneet säilyttämään kapinallisen imagonsa. Vaikkakin silti Varg on tuomittu (aivan ansaitusti) hulluna.
Re: Black Metal
Ainut Black Metal-bändi josta pidän taitaa olla Oululainen Catamenia ja siltäkin vaan se uusin levy.
Voe perkule!
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Pientä offia: Eikös tuo Catamenia tunneta aikas innokkaana Stratojen vihaajana? Onhan se kyllä ymmärrettävääkin, että bläkkärit eivät välitä hevonvittuakaan iloisesta kikkelihevistä + päälle nuo parin vuoden takaiset lööpit...Räbsä wrote:Ainut Black Metal-bändi josta pidän taitaa olla Oululainen Catamenia ja siltäkin vaan se uusin levy.
"I shall seize Fate by the throat; it shall certainly not bend and crush me completely"
Re: Black Metal
Itsekin muistan lukeneeni tuosta Strato-vihasta. Ei se taida paljoa Tolkkiin vaikuttaa mitä Stratosta sanotaan kuitenkaan Ja kyllähän Timo itsekin tiesi jossain vaiheessa hyvin mikä on musiikkia ja mikä paskaa, mutta onneksi moiset lausunnot ovat kaukaista historiaa.
I'm going nowhere. All the way to nowhere.
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Mielestäni Stratojen musiikki ei ole edes pahinta mahdollista kikkeliheviosastoa. Bändillä kun on aika paljon mollikappaleita. Saksalaiset power metal bändit, kuten Helloween ja Gamma Ray, ovat omaan makuuni liian iloisia jostain Etelä-Euroopan bändeistä nyt puhumattakaan.
Re: Black Metal
Eiköhän se DragonForce ansaitse sen kikkelihevin typerimmän bändin tittelin Yhtään kokonaista biisiä ei bändiltä ole meikäläinen pystynyt kuuntelemaan vaikka poweria fanitankin pirusti. DF:n biisit vedetään niin överiksi kaikin mahdollisin keinoin.
I'm going nowhere. All the way to nowhere.
Re: Black Metal
Juuri kaiken maailman lohikäärmeentappo-biisit ja muut fantasia-aiheet power metallissa. Ei kyllä nappaa. Stratoilla on biiseissä syvällisyyttä ja sanottavaa aivan eri tavalla kuin kikkelihevibändeillä.
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Re: Black Metal
Ehkäpä ko. bändit käyttävät lohikäämeitä ja ritareita metaforina?
Näin siis ainakin THE ultimatemiekkakikkelihevibändi Rhapsodyn sanoittaja Luca Turilli omien sanojensa mukaan tekee -> Rhapsodyn lohikärmeksentappolyriikoissa voi olla enemmän syvällisyyttä kuin bändin X sivistyssanakirja kädessä tuotetuissa vastaavissa, joiden tarkoitus voi yhtä hyvin olla saada kuulija uskomaan että sanoituksissa on jotain syvällistä vaikka sanoittaja ei itsekään tiedä mitä selittää.
Näin siis ainakin THE ultimatemiekkakikkelihevibändi Rhapsodyn sanoittaja Luca Turilli omien sanojensa mukaan tekee -> Rhapsodyn lohikärmeksentappolyriikoissa voi olla enemmän syvällisyyttä kuin bändin X sivistyssanakirja kädessä tuotetuissa vastaavissa, joiden tarkoitus voi yhtä hyvin olla saada kuulija uskomaan että sanoituksissa on jotain syvällistä vaikka sanoittaja ei itsekään tiedä mitä selittää.
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Re: Black Metal
Black Metalliakin kyllä tulee kuunneltua, mutta nykyään olen enemmän deathin ja thrashin puolella. Burzum, Impaled Nazarene, Venom, Mayhem, Barathrum ja Satyriconin uusin iskevät eniten tällä hetkellä. Eniten pidän hitaammasta, riffittelevämmästä ja oikealla asenteella varustetusta blackista, enkä mistään überblastbeat-härpäkkeistä. Tosin kyllä niitä poikkeuksiakin löytyy, mutta silti harmittavan suuri osa nykypäivän black metallista on mielestäni melkoista sontaa. Omaperäisyys on kadonnut jonnekin.
Eniten kyllä kiehtoo tuo Burzum. Dunkelheitin kuultuani aloin tutustumaan bändiin enemmän ja pidän siitä todella paljon. Sen verran ahdistuneen kuuloisia jotkut biisit on että tulee kyllä vähän mietittyä Vargin mielenterveyttä.
Impaled Nazarene ja Barathtum ovat myös omaa luokkaansa. Impaledissa miellyttää eniten huumoripuoli. Joitain biisejä ei vain voi ottaa tosissaan. Barathrum taas iskee yksinkertaisuudellaan.
Satyriconin uusin on myös mielestäni loistava. Vähän enemmän rokkaavampi ja kertosäepainotteinen tyyli toimii bändin käsissä helvetin hyvin. Aivan mahtavaa!
Mutta tosiaan, enemmän tykkään tru-bläkin puolella olevista bändeistä. Meloblack bändit ei kovin kyllä iske, paitsi ehkä vanha Covenant ja Dimmu Borgir. Ja sitten joku Cradle of Filth ei iske minuun alkuunkaan.
Eniten kyllä kiehtoo tuo Burzum. Dunkelheitin kuultuani aloin tutustumaan bändiin enemmän ja pidän siitä todella paljon. Sen verran ahdistuneen kuuloisia jotkut biisit on että tulee kyllä vähän mietittyä Vargin mielenterveyttä.
Impaled Nazarene ja Barathtum ovat myös omaa luokkaansa. Impaledissa miellyttää eniten huumoripuoli. Joitain biisejä ei vain voi ottaa tosissaan. Barathrum taas iskee yksinkertaisuudellaan.
Satyriconin uusin on myös mielestäni loistava. Vähän enemmän rokkaavampi ja kertosäepainotteinen tyyli toimii bändin käsissä helvetin hyvin. Aivan mahtavaa!
Mutta tosiaan, enemmän tykkään tru-bläkin puolella olevista bändeistä. Meloblack bändit ei kovin kyllä iske, paitsi ehkä vanha Covenant ja Dimmu Borgir. Ja sitten joku Cradle of Filth ei iske minuun alkuunkaan.
"When night falls
she cloaks the world
in impenetrable darkness.
A chill rises
from the soil
and contaminates the air
suddenly...
life has new meaning."
she cloaks the world
in impenetrable darkness.
A chill rises
from the soil
and contaminates the air
suddenly...
life has new meaning."
Re: Black Metal
Mitä mieltä sitten olet Darkthronesta?
Itselläni se on toiminut oikein hyvin. Sopivan yksinkertaista ja tarttuvia riffittelyjä.
Itselläni se on toiminut oikein hyvin. Sopivan yksinkertaista ja tarttuvia riffittelyjä.
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Re: Black Metal
En ole kuullut Darkthronea valitettavasti. Mutta jos siitä tarttuvia riffittelyjä löytyy niin pitääpä tutustua..
"When night falls
she cloaks the world
in impenetrable darkness.
A chill rises
from the soil
and contaminates the air
suddenly...
life has new meaning."
she cloaks the world
in impenetrable darkness.
A chill rises
from the soil
and contaminates the air
suddenly...
life has new meaning."
Re: Black Metal
Jää kyllä soimaan päässä kun on bändin levyjä kuunnellut . Aika primitiivistä on kokonaisuudessaan.
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Re: Black Metal
En kauheasti kuuntele mutta hyllystä löytyy Finntrollia ja Emperoria. Finntroll on kova sana ja kyllä Emperor joskus käy. Dimmu Borgirista en pidä. Olen kuullut vain Dimmun uusimman mutta en pidä lainkaan( Ehkä se Death cult Arma... mikä lie, on parempi).
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En sitten tiedä meneekö Deathin vai Blackin puolelle mutta Thyrfining Vansinnevisor on todellakin tutustumisen arvoinen, Näin tuoreen ja asenteellisen kuulloista levyä harvoin kuulee.
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Tutustu niihin vanhempiin levyihin (For all tid ja Stormblåst).HungryWolf wrote:En kauheasti kuuntele mutta hyllystä löytyy Finntrollia ja Emperoria. Finntroll on kova sana ja kyllä Emperor joskus käy. Dimmu Borgirista en pidä. Olen kuullut vain Dimmun uusimman mutta en pidä lainkaan( Ehkä se Death cult Arma... mikä lie, on parempi).