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Stratovarius
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 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: Tolkki's waiver and transfer of royalties |
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A thank-you statement posted today:
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A thank you
Open letter to Timo Tolkki from three remaining Stratovarius members.
Dear Timo, we thank you for the waiver of your rights dated May 20, 2008 in the name Stratovarius, and the gift of your share of the income from the back catalog.
Technically and morally none of us was in the position to alone give or withhold the name Stratovarius. So, this certainly clarifies the situation, and we three thank you for that.
Good luck with your projects in the future!
Jörg Michael, Jens Johansson and Timo Kotipelto |
Discuss here if you desire. |
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Plisken
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Thats pretty cool so you guys are going to continue together making music and you can use the name you have become known by. One thing though its not signed by Lauri Porra, that mean he wont be with you guys anymore? or he didnt agree with using the name Stratovarius? |
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browneyedgirl
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RazielSR
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JensJohansson
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Plisken wrote: |
| One thing though its not signed by Lauri Porra, that mean he wont be with you guys anymore? |
No, Lauri is still involved in what come may.
Neither Lauri nor Jari were mentioned in TT's waiver/transfer document, that is the only reason. |
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RazielSR
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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And when are you gonna say something about your future guys?
Any songs! something! |
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Plisken
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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ah that makes sense i guess. well good luck man! I cant wait to hear you can come up with =)
PS. Gloy to the World is awesome! |
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exe knight
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure if I should do this...
But this is what TT posted in the RR forum:
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It is not a thank you. Funny how quickly "Tolkki's motivation was greed/Narcistic greedy Faust" turned to "Thank you". And of course no comment about my statement. Only about the money and
about exploiting the name Stratovarius. |
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StratoArwen
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| exe knight wrote: |
I'm not sure if I should do this...
But this is what TT posted in the RR forum:
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It is not a thank you. Funny how quickly "Tolkki's motivation was greed/Narcistic greedy Faust" turned to "Thank you". And of course no comment about my statement. Only about the money and
about exploiting the name Stratovarius. |
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Wow, he sounds bitter still
Why would they have bothered making this statement if not to say thank you? To me it look like an olive branch or peace pipe |
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Verdades Parias
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RazielSR
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Eeeedeeeeeeeeen is buuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrniiiiinnnnnnnnnnng |
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OK, but here we don't have to do with such a case. Tolkki is alive. But since you referred it I also consider it unrespectful for some people to continue touring as Thin Lizzy when the founder of the band is not alive. It's how one thiks of a situation and the criteria that may have.
Have to remind you that some years ago Tolkki refused to continue with Strato if Kotipelto, Michael, Johansson weren't in the band. I believe that these guys should do the same now. The big difference is that then Tolkki decided that even T.K, J.M, J.J weren't original members. And he did the same now. Having all the rights to keep the band on his own, he preferred to quit, unfortunately the other members don't respect that. It's a pitty.. |
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| *censored* weird. He may be right with this: "At the end there will be no fans at all. " |
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| IceBreaker wrote: |
| *censored* weird. He may be right with this: "At the end there will be no fans at all. " |
Did you get censored here?? |
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| I hope you guys understand at some time, that there cannot be Stratovarius without Timo Tolkki in the band, and stop this madness. Just imagine Iron Maiden without Steve Harris... |
This band is not TIMO TOLKKI's RISING FORCE!!!! For God sake, let the guys do their stuff!!!. Timo tolkki is what it is, thanks to these guys, you're talking about people who have played with Saxon, Malmsteen, DIO!, Rage, Grave Digger, Running Wild, Axel Rudi Pell. And you say they can't do it?
Tolkki was part of Stravarius, the biggest undoubtedly, but it was not everything, that's a fact, the level of these musicians is really high. So stop idolizing!!! |
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| Verdades Parias wrote: |
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| I hope you guys understand at some time, that there cannot be Stratovarius without Timo Tolkki in the band, and stop this madness. Just imagine Iron Maiden without Steve Harris... |
This band is not TIMO TOLKKI's RISING FORCE!!!! For God sake, let the guys do their stuff!!!. Timo tolkki is what it is, thanks to these guys, you're talking about people who have played with Saxon, Malmsteen, DIO!, Rage, Grave Digger, Running Wild, Axel Rudi Pell. And you say they can't do it?
Tolkki was part of Stravarius, the biggest undoubtedly, but it was not everything, that's a fact, the level of these musicians is really high. So stop idolizing!!! |
+1 (!) Although Tolkki was certainly the primary songwriter and producer, it also seems that he was also the primary source of trouble and drama as well. He should, of course, be given credit for his contributions to the band, and equally important, for seeking treatment for his illness, but in no way should be lionized or put up on some sort of pedestal.
I believe that each of these guys will do fine as they continue on their respective careers, and I agree with you @Verdades_Parias that this idolatry has gotten just a wee bit out o' hand!  |
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:12 am Post subject: |
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| Verdades Parias wrote: |
| Maniac wrote: |
| I hope you guys understand at some time, that there cannot be Stratovarius without Timo Tolkki in the band, and stop this madness. Just imagine Iron Maiden without Steve Harris... |
This band is not TIMO TOLKKI's RISING FORCE!!!! For God sake, let the guys do their stuff!!!. Timo tolkki is what it is, thanks to these guys, you're talking about people who have played with Saxon, Malmsteen, DIO!, Rage, Grave Digger, Running Wild, Axel Rudi Pell. And you say they can't do it?
Tolkki was part of Stravarius, the biggest undoubtedly, but it was not everything, that's a fact, the level of these musicians is really high. So stop idolizing!!! |
Seems that you got into Stratovarius with albums like Destiny & Infinite, and so I can get your point. I appreciate Jorg's & Jens participations but that doesn't mean anything about who is the history of Stratovarius. As you have the right to say that, I also have the right to say that there cannot be Stratovarius without Tolkki, since here is supposed to be a democratic forum.. |
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:20 am Post subject: |
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| Well I guess you guys have to negotiate with Sanctuary first, then can you concentrate on writing songs. That's quite some times (several months at least). |
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I think a large portion of us fans support you, and are looking forward to the next Stratovarius album.
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Oh, the horror! 