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Mr cool Edit
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:58 pm    Post subject: Stratovarius afination in A b??? correction Db!!!!! Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Im crazy searching the stratovarius afination, im taking vocals clases too and i have progress,

I was wrong, stratovarius afination is Ab and not Eb like one friend told me.....

Black diamond are in Ab, im not so bad hitting notes..... after all... im very good really.... for that my crazy afination, why play and sing in diiferent scales, hahahaha!!!!!!.... im a joke.....

If you want do stratovarius cover, you know..... Ab is the afination i see.....

Update the note is Db!!!!!

Special Thanks to my buddy Warren curry that help me in find the Note!!!

Greetings

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:34 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

here is the answer from the man himself, you know, almost 10 years ago.
<a href="http://s9.photobucket.com/user/ adrian99/media/koti.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/ a57/adrian99/koti.jpg" border="0" alt="kotipelto photo koti.jpg"></a>

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:46 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

good, well, kotipelto recomended me one book that i dont buy it why in argentina the "Euro" is a nightmare of expensive, I started to study vocals why Warren Curry was very persuasive about this, he told that I can do very awsome singing for my crazy vocal range and color, Now Black diamond sound better that im hitting better notes, but no forgot that stratovarius use Auto-tune in studio like all the professionals, the perfect Singer dosent exist, really. I support that.

Very Happy


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here is the answer from the man himself, you know, almost 10 years ago.
<a href="http://s9.photobucket.com/user/ adrian99/media/koti.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/ a57/adrian99/koti.jpg" border="0" alt="kotipelto photo koti.jpg"></a>

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:15 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Mr cool Edit wrote:
Auto-tune in studio like all the professionals, the perfect Singer dosent exist, really. I support that.

although I agree on the Auto-tune use as a professional standart is also a producer choice just how much do you use it (or abuse it) in any given track.
you can fix a vocal take that have an amazing feeling but just a little out of tune or do the whole thing with auto tune without giving a shit about anything els

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:56 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

hahahah buddy, the autotune isnt "god", when someone sing bad, with autotune and all sound bad, listen "Fito paez" from argentina, "Charly garcia", or "Vicentico" is the best example!!!!

autotune is wonderful and perfect for singers like Kotipelto or a lot others with talent that only have centesimes out keys and not more!!!!!

if you take atention , you can listen this centesimes out of keys when sing in live!!! but is a human!!!!! its all wonderful!!!!

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Mr cool Edit wrote:
Auto-tune in studio like all the professionals, the perfect Singer dosent exist, really. I support that.

although I agree on the Auto-tune use as a professional standart is also a producer choice just how much do you use it (or abuse it) in any given track.
you can fix a vocal take that have an amazing feeling but just a little out of tune or do the whole thing with auto tune without giving a shit about anything els

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:57 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Mr cool Edit wrote:
hahahah buddy, the autotune isnt "god", when someone sing bad, with autotune and all sound bad, listen "Fito paez" from argentina, "Charly garcia", or "Vicentico" is the best example!!!!

autotune is wonderful and perfect for singers like Kotipelto or a lot others with talent that only have centesimes out keys and not more!!!!!

if you take atention , you can listen this centesimes out of keys when sing in live!!! but is a human!!!!! its all wonderful!!!!

adrian9 wrote:
Mr cool Edit wrote:
Auto-tune in studio like all the professionals, the perfect Singer dosent exist, really. I support that.

although I agree on the Auto-tune use as a professional standart is also a producer choice just how much do you use it (or abuse it) in any given track.
you can fix a vocal take that have an amazing feeling but just a little out of tune or do the whole thing with auto tune without giving a shit about anything els

do you know that auto tune was made for a singer like Cher ? popularized by T-Pain? auto tune is a product of the much hatred Pop music therefore his main use and prupose is for singers with a considerable lack of talent.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:13 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The music change, Adrian, without technology, the powermetal dosent exist, bands like sonata ártica or the last stratovarius cant do his music if not suport his talent with technology...

I can tell you seriusly that all the sonata ártica vocals are supported with autotune, or the same second vocals of stratovarius, have an independent mind in vocals is very, very hardful and month of practice. One Singer isnt like one guitar that you can fix the correct tune and play that you are sure that one one is the correct note. One Singer is the most hard instrument speaking about hits notes, more in # and b speaking....

This is why you body is your instrument....

I dunno if the pop music is bad or good, i listen whatever i like it, i like Michael Jackson and is pop.

80', 90' and now isnt the same music.... The people mind change a lot...

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Mr cool Edit wrote:
hahahah buddy, the autotune isnt "god", when someone sing bad, with autotune and all sound bad, listen "Fito paez" from argentina, "Charly garcia", or "Vicentico" is the best example!!!!

autotune is wonderful and perfect for singers like Kotipelto or a lot others with talent that only have centesimes out keys and not more!!!!!

if you take atention , you can listen this centesimes out of keys when sing in live!!! but is a human!!!!! its all wonderful!!!!

adrian9 wrote:
Mr cool Edit wrote:
Auto-tune in studio like all the professionals, the perfect Singer dosent exist, really. I support that.

although I agree on the Auto-tune use as a professional standart is also a producer choice just how much do you use it (or abuse it) in any given track.
you can fix a vocal take that have an amazing feeling but just a little out of tune or do the whole thing with auto tune without giving a shit about anything els

do you know that auto tune was made for a singer like Cher ? popularized by T-Pain? auto tune is a product of the much hatred Pop music therefore his main use and prupose is for singers with a considerable lack of talent.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:16 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Mr cool Edit wrote:
The music change, Adrian, without technology, the powermetal dosent exist, bands like sonata ártica or the last stratovarius cant do his music if not suport his talent with technology...

I can tell you seriusly that all the sonata ártica vocals are supported with autotune, or the same second vocals of stratovarius, have an independent mind in vocals is very, very hardful and month of practice. One Singer isnt like one guitar that you can fix the correct tune and play that you are sure that one one is the correct note. One Singer is the most hard instrument speaking about hits notes, more in # and b speaking....

This is why you body is your instrument....

I dunno if the pop music is bad or good, i listen whatever i like it, i like Michael Jackson and is pop.

80', 90' and now isnt the same music.... The people mind change a lot...


I dont know if technology plays a fundamental part in powermetal music nowadays, there wasnt many technology tricks back then when helloween recorded their first album and stills sounds amazing , more that many that came after,the same goes for any pre-00s rock albums.
Technology only replicate effects that you cant do in small studios or in your living room, or if you dont have the real tool (like Vst)

and like the kotipelto answer, you are discovering things 10 years late my friend.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:29 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Very bad for you, that dont help to nothing, more when i ask for the real note of the stratovarius songs. But nevermind, i do very good things and i dont have a pro studio, and now, i started to sing all the songs in real key....

in the end, is more awsome about my person and talent that i do all one cd, all instuments and vocals, and all the sound 80% profesional only me

10 years ago, i dont listen stratovarius like now, i dont play powermetal in this time, and im proud to tell that only one persons, no profesional, can build one cd, only why i study a lot....

The next time be more gentle, mr Venezuela.



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Mr cool Edit wrote:
The music change, Adrian, without technology, the powermetal dosent exist, bands like sonata ártica or the last stratovarius cant do his music if not suport his talent with technology...

I can tell you seriusly that all the sonata ártica vocals are supported with autotune, or the same second vocals of stratovarius, have an independent mind in vocals is very, very hardful and month of practice. One Singer isnt like one guitar that you can fix the correct tune and play that you are sure that one one is the correct note. One Singer is the most hard instrument speaking about hits notes, more in # and b speaking....

This is why you body is your instrument....

I dunno if the pop music is bad or good, i listen whatever i like it, i like Michael Jackson and is pop.

80', 90' and now isnt the same music.... The people mind change a lot...


I dont know if technology plays a fundamental part in powermetal music nowadays, there wasnt many technology tricks back then when helloween recorded their first album and stills sounds amazing , more that many that came after,the same goes for any pre-00s rock albums.
Technology only replicate effects that you cant do in small studios or in your living room, or if you dont have the real tool (like Vst)

and like the kotipelto answer, you are discovering things 10 years late my friend.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:26 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I would like to give you a serious answer but with a post like that, it seems impossible.
you live in your "mr cool edit" world where you are king of wisdom and awesomeness...so, I dont even see the point.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:40 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

ok Adrian, im doing all only me why i dont have a band..... with the time i want have a band like stratovarius, sing in this band and i will do onlyu the vocal part, you problema is that you have limits and need pay for créate your ideas, for the momento im wotrking hard to materialize my dreams, for now is irrelevant CD's, we knows that build a Stratovarius CD tribute is more a Jovi that something serious. But im working for my Future.

PD: if you are frustrated why spend a lot money paying to others, take a book, put your ass in a chair and win certifications, if you dont want do it, isnt my problema, why yes, im doing the same for my objetives.

I dont have the suficient bank account to pay musicians and one studio for this.

adrian9 wrote:
I would like to give you a serious answer but with a post like that, it seems impossible.
you live in your "mr cool edit" world where you are king of wisdom and awesomeness...so, I dont even see the point.

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