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Derrick Rose
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:48 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If Sonata Arctica tunes low so Kakko can sing, then I would hate to hear him if they played normal Sad

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Derrick Rose wrote:
If Sonata Arctica tunes low so Kakko can sing, then I would hate to hear him if they played normal Sad


Kakko can't sing high anymore. Over the past 5 years he lost that in such a fast way. I think Kotipelto is a far better singer in general, but I don't know what's so "tabu" about tuning low just some song so Koti can sing more comfortable and he could even sound better and more natural.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:28 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

HinatAArcticA wrote:
Derrick Rose wrote:
If Sonata Arctica tunes low so Kakko can sing, then I would hate to hear him if they played normal Sad


Kakko can't sing high anymore. Over the past 5 years he lost that in such a fast way. I think Kotipelto is a far better singer in general, but I don't know what's so "tabu" about tuning low just some song so Koti can sing more comfortable and he could even sound better and more natural.


Actually I know exactly what you are talking about, my vocal teacher actually suggests this kind of thing when you are having a hard time hitting high notes, instead of forcing it and ruining your voice you should take it an octave lower and sing it that way until your voice comes back.

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Kakko could also drink a lot of lemon mixed with african bee's honey.

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Kakko could also drink a lot of lemon mixed with african bee's honey.


I like to put a Ladyfinger up my butt. Smile

And not always the biscuit. Eyes

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LOL. Maan...you are so hardcore with your ladyfinger in your bum bum.

Is this you as a child? Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


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God, what a fucked up tour till now. They all deserve more than this Mad



Any news Mocobhc ??

Keep up posted please ... waiting for the dawn once more , then ! Crying or Very sad
Still , it WILL come eventually ...

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moonstone wrote:
mocobhc wrote:

God, what a fucked up tour till now. They all deserve more than this Mad



Any news Mocobhc ??

Keep up posted please ... waiting for the dawn once more , then ! Crying or Very sad
Still , it WILL come eventually ...


Ahh, a lady!!!! Shocked Shocked

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moonstone wrote:
mocobhc wrote:

God, what a fucked up tour till now. They all deserve more than this Mad



Any news Mocobhc ??

Keep up posted please ... waiting for the dawn once more , then ! Crying or Very sad
Still , it WILL come eventually ...

No real news. Helloween announced three compensation dates,
Fr 08. Apr. Oberhausen / Turbinenhalle
Mo 11. Apr. Hannover / Capitol
Di 12. Apr. Saarbrücken / Garage
no compensation dates will be held for Bonn and Osnabrück though, due to scheduling issues. No news about Andi's health, nor about Timo's.

Guess that's what I'd call an act of providence, it's kind of a good coincidence that TK got compelled to rest a few days and take care of his voice. But that's easy to say for me since I don't miss one of the shows, Balingen will take place as it seems. For the fans who wanted to go to one of the cancelled shows it sucks of course.


Btw:

GUYS!!! IF YOU'RE STILL IN GERMANY AND DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO: HEIDELBERG IS A BEAUTIFUL CITY

and has a decent Thai restaurant you'd like to check.
And uhhh coincidence I work there Razz

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:05 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

HinatAArcticA wrote:
Derrick Rose wrote:
If Sonata Arctica tunes low so Kakko can sing, then I would hate to hear him if they played normal Sad


Kakko can't sing high anymore. Over the past 5 years he lost that in such a fast way. I think Kotipelto is a far better singer in general, but I don't know what's so "tabu" about tuning low just some song so Koti can sing more comfortable and he could even sound better and more natural.


Shame, he's not very old? I saw "Dont Say a Word" lately and it is painful Sad

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:24 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Hope you recover soon Timo, I'm sending all my love & support!
Take care
God bless you Wink

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Derrick Rose wrote:
HinatAArcticA wrote:
Derrick Rose wrote:
If Sonata Arctica tunes low so Kakko can sing, then I would hate to hear him if they played normal Sad


Kakko can't sing high anymore. Over the past 5 years he lost that in such a fast way. I think Kotipelto is a far better singer in general, but I don't know what's so "tabu" about tuning low just some song so Koti can sing more comfortable and he could even sound better and more natural.


Shame, he's not very old? I saw "Dont Say a Word" lately and it is painful Sad


In deed. I'm hoping he's like a bit.. "out of shape" but I think Tony's voice was never as enduring as Koti's. He already couldn't hit the same notes in Silence than those he did in Ecliptica.

He was ok on the metal cruise performances (70000 Tons of Metal). They actually played Blank File, altough I don't know how many tones down.

About Koti, it seemed to me that some fans just don't want to listen to some songs in a lower key, but I think it would really help Koti to take care of his voice in later years and to sound beter sometimes.

Of course, in the end is really his call to do Laughing

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HinatAArcticA wrote:

In deed.


Spiny

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AAAAAAAAAA wrote:
HinatAArcticA wrote:

In deed.


Spiny




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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:21 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Sorry for beeing little late, but my internet was dead and happily I survived those days without beeing online.
Get well Timo,remember that your health is the most important.

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HinatAArcticA wrote:
Derrick Rose wrote:
HinatAArcticA wrote:
Derrick Rose wrote:
If Sonata Arctica tunes low so Kakko can sing, then I would hate to hear him if they played normal Sad


Kakko can't sing high anymore. Over the past 5 years he lost that in such a fast way. I think Kotipelto is a far better singer in general, but I don't know what's so "tabu" about tuning low just some song so Koti can sing more comfortable and he could even sound better and more natural.


Shame, he's not very old? I saw "Dont Say a Word" lately and it is painful Sad


In deed. I'm hoping he's like a bit.. "out of shape" but I think Tony's voice was never as enduring as Koti's. He already couldn't hit the same notes in Silence than those he did in Ecliptica.

He was ok on the metal cruise performances (70000 Tons of Metal). They actually played Blank File, altough I don't know how many tones down.

About Koti, it seemed to me that some fans just don't want to listen to some songs in a lower key, but I think it would really help Koti to take care of his voice in later years and to sound beter sometimes.

Of course, in the end is really his call to do Laughing


Blank File is one of my favorite Sonata tunes. But singing it must be hell for Kakko nowadays!! At least he tries. Smile

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robocop656 wrote:
AAAAAAAAAA wrote:
HinatAArcticA wrote:

In deed.


Spiny






Buh

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I wonder if Tony has actually seen a vocal coach? maybe what he needs is someone to help him work out his vocal problems, I've seen many musicians do this

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Derrick Rose wrote:
HinatAArcticA wrote:
Derrick Rose wrote:
HinatAArcticA wrote:
Derrick Rose wrote:
If Sonata Arctica tunes low so Kakko can sing, then I would hate to hear him if they played normal Sad


Kakko can't sing high anymore. Over the past 5 years he lost that in such a fast way. I think Kotipelto is a far better singer in general, but I don't know what's so "tabu" about tuning low just some song so Koti can sing more comfortable and he could even sound better and more natural.


Shame, he's not very old? I saw "Dont Say a Word" lately and it is painful Sad


In deed. I'm hoping he's like a bit.. "out of shape" but I think Tony's voice was never as enduring as Koti's. He already couldn't hit the same notes in Silence than those he did in Ecliptica.

He was ok on the metal cruise performances (70000 Tons of Metal). They actually played Blank File, altough I don't know how many tones down.

About Koti, it seemed to me that some fans just don't want to listen to some songs in a lower key, but I think it would really help Koti to take care of his voice in later years and to sound beter sometimes.

Of course, in the end is really his call to do Laughing


Blank File is one of my favorite Sonata tunes. But singing it must be hell for Kakko nowadays!! At least he tries. Smile


The guy should stop smoking those finnish cigars

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hiro23 wrote:
I wonder if Tony has actually seen a vocal coach? maybe what he needs is someone to help him work out his vocal problems, I've seen many musicians do this


He did, arround 2004. See 8th Commandment in Hiroshima in 2003... he can't sing some parts, but then in For the Sake of Revenge he sings great. But maybe his voice was never that strong or to sing some very high notes.

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I do see what you mean but one thing my teacher taught me was that the fact that he even sang them before shows that he can, the problem may be his technique, I mean you can be using the wrong technique and sound great for awhile but ultimately it starts to do some damage to your voice.

I wonder if he's pulling chest too much and not mixing head and chest voice. (for those not familiar with this these are techniques for proper singing)

If he gets some help in this way he may be able to get himself sounding somewhat better again.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:40 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I dont really know what is better.To cancel the tour cause of illness or play half sided setlists.Compare the setlist 2010 and 2011.I for my own wouldnt be disappointed if it is canceled cause such things happen.But now i am thinking of selling my ticket cause over 40 € for 2 bands whos singers are not at their full power i really doubt if this is what i like to hear.It is very honoralbe that they give their last energy for the fans but does it make sense ?wouldnt it be a win win situation for fans and band to have a concert when everybody is fine ?I dont really know what to expect next week.

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I understand that as well however not everyone would agree, I myself know people who are angry because concerts and they don't care about the reason.

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hiro23 wrote:
I understand that as well however not everyone would agree, I myself know people who are angry because concerts and they don't care about the reason.


I think, that it's sad, because they don't understand, that they have reasons to cancel the gigs.

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I completely agree however we seem to be in a minority, it's sad but there are many people who don't care about health reasons and get pissed off at the band for even canceling a show

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I think tony´s best performance are on the ecliptica and silence album, after that he lost his high pitch and went on doing grunts and stuff.

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adrian9 wrote:
I think tony´s best performance are on the ecliptica and silence album, after that he lost his high pitch and went on doing grunts and stuff.


God first made himself and then he made the whole universe and you.

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So at least I'm third in line right?

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hiro23 wrote:
I completely agree however we seem to be in a minority, it's sad but there are many people who don't care about health reasons and get pissed off at the band for even canceling a show


Passing by ( euh @ AAAA : are there no ladies in Hippolaris Shocked ? ), I feel rather saddened by the talk here : So in my half-penny psychology , I'm getting to understand that a fan is a person ( Question ) who can't / refuses to consider his/her "idol" as a human being and would rather he damaged his voice than admit to a human frailty in him Confused

I guess I'm not a fan after all ...

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A lot of people don't realize that fan is short for fanatic, however while I will admit I am a fan of Iron maiden,Stratovarius and Helloween I would not ever expect them to ruin themselves all for my sake, I would rather they were okay and that they wanted to perform instead of feeling like they were obligated to.

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