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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:31 pm    Post subject: The mr. ''m'' thread, or, The Off Topic Place Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Just creating this thread to respond to his posts so that i don't get off topic on this forum.

You are all welcome to join and share your views.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:48 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Motha-faka wrote:
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do you not have ambition to win a grammy in music, best band or best production?


about force it, let me remember you that this is the first time that we are talking about this, before only was attacks and bad stuff


Why care about Grammys ? My opinion of them is negative, it's all arranged...

About forcing it: well yes, you are inderectly try to force your ideas of sound engineering on people (i'm not saying that your ideas are wrong) and when you see that people are not interested, or do not react the way you expect you get angry.


you see, I listen tons of stuff about metal guys and this forum.

i don't know if you will understand this, but in technology all is unsafe.

i can show you true situations, but i think that you dont will understand it.

I'm trying to present you a HUGE BUSINESS, why?, why im in the other side of the people and you are not.

I see that the common people see and you can't see it why you are inside of this

let me explain you, if you tell me that Argentina is a super country, full of money, i can tell you, YES LIBERTY, ARGENTINA BUY UNITED STATES GRAMMY, but Argentina is not a rich country, , is 3ra world country, ARGENTINA IS IMPOSSIBLE BUY UNITED STATES GRAMMY.

all was degenerated why not only the huge ball of insults happen here, this was translated into social nets too, we are insulted in youtube, google plus and facebook too for the huge problem in this forum.

i'm not lie you, yes, sometime i can't understand what you all wanted said with all these words that is common in the metal why i'm one psychologist, the post producer is the other that share this account with me.

but He tried to got a direct contact with you all and really is impossible!

is like contact a shadows to you all, you can see it only in shows and when insite you to buy his albums in video.

now, explain me how you will stop all the ball of insults from tons of metalguys without be humillated and take respect of your person?

we are not offering this product only to stratovarius, also too the long list of artist my brother have as contact but that for now, they only see and no talk.

i know that this is really extra new, that you can fall in "yes but no, no but yes"

but is some one not break the Ice, just you all sing, the powermetal not exist. but you see that halloween and stratovarius, break the ice and now you are living of one "crazy idea" from 80's. or im wrong?


if ford, not create the crazy idea of build a car, you all will travel in horse like 1800, or im wrong?

this is the oportunity of revolucinate all again. The most important is that, you will continue with this original music but with much better sound that before, this not change in nothing about your music

If timo tolkki not decide left of the vocals and put to kotipelto inside, stratovarius is not that was in 90's, this was one risk that he take, with the band after his 3rs album grow with tolkki voice included. or i'm wrong?

Including was more dangerous, why change tolkki voice for kotipelto that is full differents. change jens johansson by antti that is completet different, change the drummer that sound differents.

after you take the risk with matias by tolkki that is completly differents.


is not so dangerous, or yes?


1- how can a country buy Grammys ? i thought artists were chosen by votes.

2- to stop the insults, my guess would be to find out what insults them in the first place.

3- no i am not living in a crazy idea of the 80s. I wished that rock and metal bands these days were as popular but music changed. But, keep hope, one of Canada's most looked t.v. show about music artists, the french version of ''The voice'' is slowly changing. More powerful voices, especially people singing old rock songs are being chosen by the judges. If you don't know that show which is popular in many countries, there is a sample here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4H3E- Q1XNE

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:21 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

my opinion of the Grammys, is that they are probably corrupted.

My vision of a band's success is in how well the fans respond in concerts, how the crowd reacts. If the artist is able to make the crowd sing its song, the more people who react, the better.

I was not refering to post production but to music in general in the post above.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:34 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

thats nice, but why not take both?

why not got an epic success with fans, critic, adwards, magazines, have the best albums of metal history, and more

man, im not kidding, this band and timo tolkki have more gold in his hands that you can image

why? why the music is the best into the metal, this is the moment in make explode all this more that huge monsters are having troubles too.

Luca Turilli ha millons of kici too for this, and you listen ho he compose too... dear gosh

Rhapsody of fire is close to the extintion... and you listen how huge was Rhapsody of fire musically speaking...

but all have the same line of explosion in the same time

90's....

the time pass and you all continue having the same god in your hands

and timo tolkki too have it, this is my point.

and you know it that my brother is not very lovely in put all his creation in a hip hop guy or in ricky martin, he put his eyes in the real talent as stratovarius and tolkki and he knows that you all can sound godly, he is sure of this

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:09 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Motha-faka wrote:
thats nice, but why not take both?

why not got an epic success with fans, critic, adwards, magazines, have the best albums of metal history, and more

man, im not kidding, this band and timo tolkki have more gold in his hands that you can image

why? why the music is the best into the metal, this is the moment in make explode all this more that huge monsters are having troubles too.



That kind of success would probably be ideal for any bands. But, some are doing better than others. If you want to have an idea of sales in the U.S. for metal bands: http://www.metalinjection.net/category/ its-just-business/earnings-attendance

the 90s, i missed. Moved from a big city to the countryside and internet got here only in 2001.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:15 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Liberty wrote:
Motha-faka wrote:
thats nice, but why not take both?

why not got an epic success with fans, critic, adwards, magazines, have the best albums of metal history, and more

man, im not kidding, this band and timo tolkki have more gold in his hands that you can image

why? why the music is the best into the metal, this is the moment in make explode all this more that huge monsters are having troubles too.




That kind of success would probably be ideal for any bands. But, some are doing better than others. If you want to have an idea of sales in the U.S. for metal bands: http://www.metalinjection.net/category/ its-just-business/earnings-attendance

the 90s, i missed. Moved from a big city to the countryside and internet got here only in 2001.



Lyberty, yes, i know it... but Guns n roses in from 84's and is american

let me told you , axl rose is not kotipelto, slash is not tolkki and kupiainen.

all come based in MARKETING. United states is master in MARKETING. AND THE ARTIST CAN BE A CHIKEN SINGING THAT FOR MARKETING, THEY ARE HUGE

METALLICA IS FROM 80'S

SLAYER IS MORE OLD THAT MY GRAND MA

IROM MAIDEN IS 80'S BAND AND MORE RUSTIC AND BASIC JUST AS ONES OF THE FISRT HEAVY METAL

we can build a vs,

which is talent and which is marketing

last marilin mansson

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vs last Stratovarius

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tolkki vs foo fighters (the most famous)

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is marketing...... UNITED STATES IS GREAT MACHING OF PROPAGANDA, THEY ARE NOT NOTHING MARVELLOUS, THEY KNOWS AS WASH BRAINS AND YOU WANT WHY IM CORRECT?

for this.

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listen the lYRIcs, is just a critic to americans

and based propaganda, they build wars including, UNITED STATES IS PERFECT IN MARKETING AND PROPAGANDA, FOR THAT ALL WANT TAKE UNITED STATES


i WILL TELL YOU A SOMETHING, americns ask me when i go "With my band" to play in United States always

why? why the fisrt contact to love you to the people is the album cd

after come the live presentation



about marilin mansson forgot it, he is more electronic that a real man playing for that sound more clear and the music is extra basic

now, all that you showme is a basi band, is nothing mega produced and for that all sound WOOOOW!!!!

THE NORDIC MUSIC IS MORE COMPLEX, NEED MORE TALENT, MORE STUDY, MORE SOUND, MORE AWESOME CD TO FUCK ALL THIS BALL THE MARKETING


and one time that you have mega cd quality, with full completed music nordic in all his light, is time to copy the United States propaganda, that is fucking psychotic, i advice you

RESUME:

NORDIC STRATOVARIUS TOLKKI = MORE ELAVORATED, MORE POWERFUL, MORE SKILL, MORE VARIATION, MORE HUGE IN PRODUCTION, AND WITH THE CORRECT SOUND, METALHEADS WILL NEED CHANGE HIS BRAIN FOR OVERDOSIS OF METAL



THAT YOU POST: More basic, nothing wow!, you not, can sound better why there you have little projects song by song, they are MASTER IN MARKETING AND PROPAGANDA

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:18 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

hi,

well with marily manson, the sound is good, i just didn't like the allusion to killing that i saw.

Stratovarius are much better.

I agree with you about the nordic music. More work has been put into it.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:11 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

this is a marvellous step.

we are gotting the same vision.

I'm happy, and I learn that your metal is really talented with this, more that you think now, im more convinced that after this friendly talk



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 3:32 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

that's nice but i don't think i know much about metal... I took a look at more nordic music, especially the metal one. So i found Swedish bands on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=E4Xx0mE1ih4

Bands that i don't know. Just by listening i only found 2 interesting, not judging the looks or the lyrics, but just the singing voice: Hammerfall and Therion. I had a problem with the other band"s singing voice.

I also took a look at the Luca Turilli guy you mentioned and he has a great powerful voice with a good range.

I guess my problem is that i don't like a certain tone of voice and not a fan of death metal either. After the singing voice, one would look at the lyrics, and that can change the view one has of a band...

How can a band be classified as metal ? i thought some were progressive rock.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:05 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

well.

heavy metal is iron maiden to me

hard rock is Scorpions to me

Glam rock is Aerosmith to me

Powermetal is maybe Halloween that is more basic that stratovarius of this is that i listen

Stratovarius is a fusion powermetal, progressive metal, speed metal and classical

Rhapsody of fire and Luca Turilli Rhapsody is Opera Symphonic metal they called cinematic why mabe luca turilli is fan of the movies

Therion start with Death metal and change to Symphonic metal with string orchestra only is not so huge like Luca turilli, they are very dark but if sometimes the dark is beauty too

the others i don't listen it never, I'm in the metal since 2012 only but I study insane

to me Hard glam rock is Bonjovi in 80's and now pass to be Metal pop

electric metal is like some sones of jani cain offering or Nemesis album of Stratovarius.

About voices. The vocalist of Lucaturilli is extra high, very fly voice and easy to do melodies, into the classical, he will fall into the Light tenor, maybe with dedication and study he can do a RE 5 IN classical vocals

My Brother is Lirical tenor and he is a miracle if can hit a do5 in classical tenor and in metal he trained to his project only and he can did a La# 5 if have a day of inspiration usually can did a G#5 but the problem of he is that is not high in his color, all sound a but "classical" including singing metal, Nothing compared like others vocalist that runs better into the metal like fabio lione or kotipelto or alesandro contti, that is the luca turilli vocalist.

about gutural vocals, is a dangerous style of vocals, you need do it very good and safe why you can destroy your vocals, when you listen a guy that is extra soft and with dark color, these guy can have a problem in his voice.

i can show you an example of throat disasse.

nighwish vs stratovarius in healthy comparision (I'm afraid that one metalguy jump angry now Laughing )

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In the guy that lookis like a huge viking that sing, but i'm not sure why the syudio hide defects can got this class of posibilities

1 - he is 1/2 death in his voice why some times i listen that he lose air, his tone is soft, not have brightness

2 - the studio did an horrible job

but the stuff change in this, i dunno if this in the same year or not

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for that, im not sure what happened with he there.

you can see that kotipelto not have problem only with listeng him talk


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Including with the horrible sound of the video clip that the editor of the report did there, you can listen that he have an healthy voice including after all these years singing metal

all is quastion is how much skilled the vocalist have and knows very good which class of capacity he have.

sorry if i was very technique and less fresh in this, is my personality Rolling Eyes Embarassed

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 4:57 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

In my joke moments with friends in 15 yo girl friend

he go to the party and they put me to me like DJ, hahah that was impressive why the 15 yo girl love the electronic music. and you know it how is

when i listen for the fisrt time "Stormcrow" of cain offering and I fall flatered with a song

1. why is wonderful to me
2. why this make the open door to build a joke in 15 yo party

I pass "Dance " music and in one time start all the teen girls start to shout harder and they start to shot me with the plastic plates crying that i shit the dance party.

hahahaha! Laughing


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the jani guitar is just as said, FUCK YOU ELECTRONIC/DANCE MUSIC!!

this was as a funny nexus

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:32 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

maybe you could have given them a piece of paper to those girls with the lyrics before playing it...

About the nightwish videos, it's true, the guy seems to have a different tone in the second video. But i guess some artists are good with their vocal range.

I look at that guy doing it: https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=bnoQ_Y6FUqE then i wonder if he's going to able to speak normally the next day. Must be hard on the voice to scream like that.

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this is not natural.

yes, is just the falssetto that do ian guillan in "Child in time"

i only that the guy have more register that ian gillan

is falssetto, this is possible if the falsseto got mix with classical technique

we start to explain the difference and why the classical technique is more short the range that other styles

Opera vocals:



the vocals chords are only the sound proyection, is the natural range that one human being have woman or man

if you take the ian guillan falssetto and if you try put it into your head caves, is possible

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is just the same that this

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the problem in why the tolkki singer have other voice color.

I see a video in that Andre matos explain about head voice and chest voice

well yes in part is yes and in part is no

Andre matos can use this head but never in the life can go so hi in clear natural vocals, he did it in falsetto that is like one "woman fake to the man"

in the metal soud marvellous, in other styles sound just gay

example of falsetto out of the metal

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anatomy of the Chest vocals:



this is my explication, i can said more tons of stuff but i dont know how you all will take it, for that i prefer close my mouth, like for example (the castrato in 1700) or, contratenors - man with girl vocal range

i dont want be agressive with this last words Embarassed

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:29 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

no, don't worry, you won't have to explain the castrato, i saw a film on that years ago...

the queen song, yes, it would sound weird, can't imagine a dance music song with that kind of voice.

the symfonia one: is it me or i don't know, I have the impression that the guy is forcing his voice starting at 2:18

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well, yes, he is not 100% healthy.

the evidence is high, is the same that the huge viking of nightwish

or he is 1/2 death in vocals or the studio did a disaster

but I try to be careful with this why i think that in whatever moment jump a metalguy angry, more if he is a famous vocalist, but this is not Brazil Embarassed

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ok, i get it.

Talking about Brazil (and the whole south America), do they have any good progressive metal bands, and powermetal bands with great voices ?

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I ill tell you the true.

the magnificient land of metal, about power metal, speed metal and progresive is nordic lands.

South America tryied to have nice band, I listen a lot bands that can have a nice place in the world but if they not start with tons of money, they will die soon.

why? why america all have other line of mind, they are more "happy" that this is traduced to this

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or if come from united states , the boom of the glamour is this

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south america have tons is talent but that the same problem that you all, the post producers not do a correct post production in metal.

the great destructive ball of marketing of united states more his good producing songs of little projects, are cutting the head of the metal in all the world.

for that i create this techniques with passion to.

this is the last album of Rata Blanca

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I need said that Rata Blanca pass for the same situation that Stratovarius but in Argentina.

Small theatres and a few shows in all part. This is the true of Argentina and the metal Actually, is close to the extintion.

and this song is like judas priest but in Spanish, we need say it

We Have talent but devaluates, and end to die for the same crisis that you all have, only that Nordic land is the Land of the Metal and Argentina is the land of Confusion Laughing

edit: You need to think that Argentina is the most Impostant country torgether to Brazil, and close come chile in south america, can you image all the others one? Laughing

in central america the most important is Mexico, can you image the others ones? Laughing


i hope that you understand what i mean Laughing

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well is time to share REAL STARTS OF HIS POST-PRODUCTION

I bet that Japan will love this, more that i see that Japanesse people love the powerful metal, apart to the good anime like saint seiya.

i admit it, I'm fanatic of Saint Seiya anime. sorry if this Bother you or you think that this is not serious Embarassed



this happen after the last two tracks of his second album in that he is working

and he hope that this will improve more, the track 3 is, wings of destiny - in a opera simpfonic version (Rhapsody of fire adaptation song for opera metal proyect)

I think that works ok

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:39 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Motha-faka wrote:
well is time to share REAL STARTS OF HIS POST-PRODUCTION

I bet that Japan will love this, more that i see that Japanesse people love the powerful metal, apart to the good anime like saint seiya.

i admit it, I'm fanatic of Saint Seiya anime. sorry if this Bother you or you think that this is not serious Embarassed



this happen after the last two tracks of his second album in that he is working

and he hope that this will improve more, the track 3 is, wings of destiny - in a opera simpfonic version (Rhapsody of fire adaptation song for opera metal proyect)

I think that works ok


I cannot see the link, it's broken, can you try to post it again ?

Well Ricky Martin and Lady Gaga are more commercial bands, they could be played more on the AM broadcasting band ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ AM_broadcasting ) giving them more exposure.

Do they have rock stations on the FM broadcasting band ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ FM_broadcasting ) over there ? When i was younger, i never heard a metal band on the AM band, but only on the FM. Maybe South America would gain more exposing local bands and metal bands over the radio. There is also internet radio.

And why count on the US ? There's customers on the rest of the planet ready to buy over the internet. Where I am, i have no choice to buy from the internet, i'm too far away from a big city. So, if I am able to buy a CD from a band on the other side of the planet, i do it. Now, if I can be a customer, so can people on the rest of the planet, and i don't live in the USA...

All you need is an official youtube channel, an official web site, places where to sell their CD or they could try ebay, an exposure on other metal web sites. Internet is a land of opportunities for those who want to sell their merchandise. If young kids make ton of $$$ on youtube, why can't a South American metal band use the internet too.

Those bands probably need more internet exposure.

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As an example, take a look at the same guy but singing with a girl the Saint Seiya cover song here: https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=IGBTWlMZJQs

they both have beautiful voices, i don't understand a thing but i like their voices. That guy has over 1.7 million subscribers and i never heard him on the radio...

Now, take a look at the bottom of his video, and what do you see ?

1- A link to subscribe to his other friends or partners on youtube, his friend probably does the same for him. More exposure that way.

2- A link where to buy his merchandise, preferably on his web site, but no link on ebay (he would gain more customers and visibility if he had one)

3- A link to his Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.

4- He also mentions in other videos that people can buy his covers and his original songs on itunes.

Do you think it cost him a lot of $$$ to do all that ?

Like i mentioned, if someone can't make it in their country, they have a chance on the web.

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Liberty wrote:
As an example, take a look at the same guy but singing with a girl the Saint Seiya cover song here: https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=IGBTWlMZJQs

they both have beautiful voices, i don't understand a thing but i like their voices. That guy has over 1.7 million subscribers and i never heard him on the radio...

Now, take a look at the bottom of his video, and what do you see ?

1- A link to subscribe to his other friends or partners on youtube, his friend probably does the same for him. More exposure that way.

2- A link where to buy his merchandise, preferably on his web site, but no link on ebay (he would gain more customers and visibility if he had one)

3- A link to his Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.

4- He also mentions in other videos that people can buy his covers and his original songs on itunes.

Do you think it cost him a lot of $$$ to do all that ?

Like i mentioned, if someone can't make it in their country, they have a chance on the web.



let me tell you that the stat that i post in photo i from a private account.

I can post the link but i dont know if let you see it, by that i post the photo

https://www.reverbnation.com/ control_room/artist/2951591/dashboard

well, the social nets is a huge business, I will explain you why.

1- Flavio recibe tons of offers of "Buy Fake suscribers"

2- Youtube only count the reproductions that is complete, if you see a video in partial reproduction, youtube not count the reproduction, by that you can post a video of a marvellous song and can got 5 reproductions only in youtube counter and hide more reproductions.

3- all is free, facebook is free but you can pay marketing and this is more exposition, youtube is free but you can pay and got more exposition, twitter is free but you can pay and got more exposition, istagram is free, and all is free but you can chain all and this is that did Flavio, he not pay marketing company why he cant for now pay it. Laughing

4- now, south america, just like noth america and central america have simple line of think, they are not complicated, but into the metal, is more easy catch noth america (Now flavio have the mayority of fans in United States and canada), but what is latin america are more rustic, they need more culture to insert the metal here, latin america is an objetive to more long time to take.

United states is the neuralgic point in the music actually, just like was United kinghdom in the 80's but they live of old bands, why the new stuff is garbage, United states is a huge machine of propaganda and marketing extra sick and psychotic, for that all musicians want a place in united states, why they force to the people to consume one product with talent or not.

now, we are talking of the european monsters, this can't be so hard to beat. Laughing

you know, JAPAN IS A MASSIVE FAN OF THE METAL, if the metal got a magnificient sound just like im proposing, japan take the metal hand with close eyes, with japan, germany, netherland, finland, spain, russia, sweeden, Norway and more, this is a heavy weight support to the metal.

and after, Flavio is offering all his sick social nets too

that with the time we will invert in marketing company just in united states, this is one of this plans

he don't have any problem in use all this own social nets to promottionate metal bands that works with he, share his video EP in his own web page, share all the photos, reports of the bands, he create all this huge net specially to do just this, this mean that the band will got:

1- discographic marketing.
2- youtube marketing in multiple parts, discographic, fans, sound engineer and the youtube of the band

3 - marketing in facebook in multiple parts, discographic, fans, sound engineer and the band

4- marketing in twitter in multiple parts, discographic, fans, sound engineer and band

5- marketing in Istagram in multiple arts, discographic, fans, sound engineer and the band


6- mrketing in web pages in multiple parts, discographic, fans, sound engineer and the band

and now i will show you a photo, i cant show you the link why is a private account of the flavio web page that wish put in disposition of the bands that works with he in 1 year and 10 month that was created.




you need think that we are talking of a guy that:

1- is unknow,
2- not have marketing company
3- Not have band
4- Not have production of photography to show how huge he is

this is only he and his post production quality and did it with nordic metal or European metal to say it in general.

you can see that the most ball of fans come from United States .

He study all step by step and he talk with fundaments

Very Happy

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Motha-faka wrote:



4- now, south america, just like noth america and central america have simple line of think, they are not complicated, but into the metal, is more easy catch noth america (Now flavio have the mayority of fans in United States and canada), but what is latin america are more rustic, they need more culture to insert the metal here, latin america is an objetive to more long time to take.






What do you mean, latin america more rustic ?
If you take a look here: http://www.metalinjection.net/its-just- business/earnings-attendance/guns-n- roses-iron-maiden-black-sabbath-lamb-of- god

Artist: Iron Maiden & Anthrax
Venue: Rio de Janeiro, BRA – HSBC Arena
Date: Mar. 17th, 2016
Gross Sales: $844,709

Artist: Iron Maiden & Anthrax
Venue: Belo Horizonte, BRA – Esplanada do Mineirao
Date: Mar. 19th, 2016
Gross Sales: $1,165,280

you cannot say that all latin america don't like metal.

They have the technology, and metal seems to still be popular. I know those are big groups, but, doesn't South america do something for new groups ? Radio stations don't play metal ? even 1 hour/week ?

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Liberty wrote:
Motha-faka wrote:



4- now, south america, just like noth america and central america have simple line of think, they are not complicated, but into the metal, is more easy catch noth america (Now flavio have the mayority of fans in United States and canada), but what is latin america are more rustic, they need more culture to insert the metal here, latin america is an objetive to more long time to take.






What do you mean, latin america more rustic ?
If you take a look here: http://www.metalinjection.net/its-just- business/earnings-attendance/guns-n- roses-iron-maiden-black-sabbath-lamb-of- god

Artist: Iron Maiden & Anthrax
Venue: Rio de Janeiro, BRA – HSBC Arena
Date: Mar. 17th, 2016
Gross Sales: $844,709

Artist: Iron Maiden & Anthrax
Venue: Belo Horizonte, BRA – Esplanada do Mineirao
Date: Mar. 19th, 2016
Gross Sales: $1,165,280

you cannot say that all latin america don't like metal.

They have the technology, and metal seems to still be popular. I know those are big groups, but, doesn't South america do something for new groups ? Radio stations don't play metal ? even 1 hour/week ?


yeah, latin america not support metal music.

i will explain you what appen with iron maiden in latin america

THEY ARE BASIC HEAVY METAL

WE WILL START WITH A HEALTHY COMPARISION

WE WILL DID IT IRON MAIDEN VS OLD TOLKKI STRATOVARIUS THAT IS MORE "JUSTICE" IN COMPARISIONS

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NOT TAKE IT BAD, I WILL TELL THIS JUST LIKE AN animal why sonata arctica feels like an animal too
Laughing

IROM MAIDEN IS 80'S AND NOT CHANGE, IS




Argentina NOT SUPPORT THE METAL, NOT HAVE METAL RADIOS ON AIR, AND THE THE ONLY RADIO THAT CAN PASS A BIT OF METAL IS CALLED "VORTERIX" AND THE MUSIC THAT THEY PASS IS UNITED STATES STYLE, IS A HUGE PENIS WITH 2 CHORD DISTORTED. AND YOU ALL KNOW IT WHY YOU ALL PLAY IN "VORTERIX" ROOM THEATHE WITH MAX OF 1500 PERSONS

COMPARED WITH NORDIC METAL. sorry i did a intermission of wildness Embarassed

TO ARGENTINA AND SOUTH AMERICA, THE METAL IS "MUSIC OF ANGRY PEOPLE"

LATIN AMERICA NEED MORE CULTURE IN THIS.

and the top 1 in COMPLETE SOUTH AMERICA IN METAL IS JUST BRAZIL BUT south AMRICA HAVE:

Brazil
2 Argentina
3 Peru
4 Colombia
5 Bolivia
6 Venezuela
7 Chile
8 Paraguay
9 Ecuador
10 Guyana
11 Uruguay
12 Suriname

and you are only looking BRAZIL Laughing

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Motha-faka wrote:







NOT TAKE IT BAD, I WILL TELL THIS JUST LIKE AN animal why sonata arctica feels like an animal too
Laughing

IROM MAIDEN IS 80'S AND NOT CHANGE, IS




Argentina NOT SUPPORT THE METAL, NOT HAVE METAL RADIOS ON AIR, AND THE THE ONLY RADIO THAT CAN PASS A BIT OF METAL IS CALLED "VORTERIX" AND THE MUSIC THAT THEY PASS IS UNITED STATES STYLE, IS A HUGE PENIS WITH 2 CHORD DISTORTED. AND YOU ALL KNOW IT WHY YOU ALL PLAY IN "VORTERIX" ROOM THEATHE WITH MAX OF 1500 PERSONS

COMPARED WITH NORDIC METAL. sorry i did a intermission of wildness Embarassed

TO ARGENTINA AND SOUTH AMERICA, THE METAL IS "MUSIC OF ANGRY PEOPLE"

LATIN AMERICA NEED MORE CULTURE IN THIS.

and the top 1 in COMPLETE SOUTH AMERICA IN METAL IS JUST BRAZIL BUT south AMRICA HAVE:

Brazil
2 Argentina
3 Peru
4 Colombia
5 Bolivia
6 Venezuela
7 Chile
8 Paraguay
9 Ecuador
10 Guyana
11 Uruguay
12 Suriname

and you are only looking BRAZIL Laughing


Brazil was only an example to show that metal is still alive down there. If radio stations do nothing then, there's only the web left...but then, i see this Stratovarius show in Brazil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q- 0dI6o667Y and wonder. Look at all those people in the crowd, they seem to like the show and they don't look angry. The music is not United State's style either.

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yes , of course, we all diferents and not all the people are sheeps Laughing

but this can go better, is that I mean.

if the metal got a high impacts the Radio Stations will born automatic, this is one law and i see it before in 80's

I study all the time line of comunnications like tv and radio, i know all change and how the mind people change according to the "Political" world disposition.

why political? why i explain you before, in 80's the neuragical music station was united kingdom, now in united states.

Laughing

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I was thinking while i play to some audios in pc in the videos that you psted in stratovarius 2000...

this can be a huge great stuff if old stratovarius back under new name or the same name but with "Tolkki" before to "stratovarius" - I think that Timo Tolkki have the posibility to re build his version of Stratovarius

jorg Michael can back?, i see him plating in greek band in youtube, if not, can did it Tuomo lassila, about the hit is not the problem, this can be cloned in post-production.

jari is alive? or he is bussy? i dont have idea too, i listen that he is bussy, other bassist i dont have idea, what ever bassist works, about gari sound, this can be clones with post production thet only that cant be cloned is the Jari skill.

one keyboardist? where you can find a johansson clon? - I see other sweeden extra skilled like johansson, he looks like his little brother Laughing - Richard andersson, he is alive? i dont have idea, he is lost for me

Timo Tolkki is guitar

one vocalist - well you need find one kotipelto little brother, i bet that there in nordic lands, he can find tons of metal vocalist. Laughing

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i think that other members here might better answer that.

but you, how did you discover the band ?

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Liberty wrote:
i think that other members here might better answer that.

but you, how did you discover the band ?


well, is a long history, one history not continued Laughing

after the classical conservatory in 2004 i start the technician career, i was collaborator of a lot bands in parallel to my techhnician career and it job.

I collaborate with a band, extra priimitive band style argentinian, really the band was a disaster, after i collaborate with bands style U2, bon jovi and power metal.

In one moment one friend of the band in what i collaborate give me 2 casettes in 2004, Stratovarius destiny and visions

In one moment i said "Fuck!" these guys are mutants, have 16 fingers!......


but how i get gout recently of the conservatory, i continue with classical but the stratovarius was continuing jumping in my head.

after i start to mix styles in my computer, and as i look that works i study sound engineer carrer

I test production and i dislike it, is very bored to me, i decide post producer, after i got the curiosity in, if stratovarius really play this or they are faking in the studio. and i go just in ones of the last shows with timo tolkki, the show was wonderful but i notice in these moment that kotipelto and tolkki not was a good relation and i was correct , after they anunce his separation.

you know, im a very alert guy, i notice absolutly all about persons and i catched his problems, i was hardface and i tell to jorg michael that gifme a stic and he do it!

really you all knows me in person only that you are not rememberme why you played tons of shows Very Happy

i remember one song that catch my atention harder

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who compose this song!! then i buy Fouth dimession, after episode, after elements part 1, after elements part 2, after Intermission, after destiny, after visions, after Stratovarius, after infinity.... and after stratovarius lose all his position in argentina, including the metal stores not exist more in argentina, only a few ones. And in Argentina, his albums you can find it in "remate" via mercadolibre.com.ar

i cant believe whats happenned why after i power on and i listen all the time the idiot of ricky martin in chart numbre 1.

After time and learn about metal and powermetal, this was in 2012, i decide create this techniques and back to contact to stratovarius to offer this, and that stratovarius back as before, but after all was different, all change and this road was extra hard why i pass by 3 years free of insults, and hours and hours of study just for this moment, that i dont know if is one oportunity or is only a huge hope of one dreamer Laughing

now i'm here, i need admit it, sometime im sure of in what i'm doing and after im not sure of nothing why i dont have idea how is the stratovarius members about personality, i'm taking a risk of win again a huge kick but this time more fatal, from stratovarius or timo tolkki Crying or Very sad

why now we need speak of they like two different stuff but for me are the same in spirit

this is my open heart, if one guy kick me, will hurt me but not kill me, only make me more strong Smile

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i think the ''United"" song is a powerful one, it's a shame they can't learn from its lyrics in the political world...

The same song, catched my attention in the Montreal live show video on youtube just before i came here on this forum, they had things written on 2 big screens before they sang it. I think it's a song that calls people who are fed up with the system to change something. And, with what is going on in the real world out there, there are tons of people who are fed up...

Thanks for sharing your story. You should also think that sometimes, when you don't get what you want, it can be a blessing in disguise. Maybe it's not the right time or people are not ready.

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the stuff is... or that the history said, you need believe that the history is a register of actions good or bad.

this go down since 2005, and if this is not the moment, do you think that the band or people need stand face to face with his extintion to "be ready"?

this will continuing going down, i'm sure of this

and now, is a bless why with the time i will see dead a lot bands and people or why they only have a fasination for "bright" stuff, but empty in true talent?

this is a balance, like the justice symbol



we continue running a "fake dream of ilussion" or "we fall into the reality and open eyes and see what really happen"

for now, all are living in a fake dream of glory, you all think that one theatre of 1500 persons is the glory, when one guy, like roger waters, faking his voice and all but good post produced, i said post produced why i dont want insult producers, put 450000 persons in the same country in that metal guys put 1500. Not take it bad, but this is my point

You all are fear of what?, i'm the guy that need have tons of fear and shives like one tree in the wind to face you all here, do you think? Laughing

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