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| I hope you guys understand at some time, that there cannot be Stratovarius without Timo Tolkki in the band, and stop this madness. Just imagine Iron Maiden without Steve Harris... |
The only one who is keeping this madness alive is Timo Tolkki. And by the way, for example Helloween is still alive and doing well although Kiske and Hansen haven't been there for a while.
One simple wish for JJ, JM, TK and LP: Keep on rockin' and turn this great band back on track again. I'm 100% sure that you can do it.
And last but not least:
I wish all the best to Tolkki with his new projects, I promise that I'll buy the RR's next record. |
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Please, we must stop this madness.
We must support music coming from RR and remaining Stratovarius members. Maybe we have now two wonderful bands, who knows. The only thing I can see right now, is that Tolkki is moving a lot of things. He has created a new band. There's a new album coming to us in a few days. At least, he is making something more than statements.
I/we need the same from the other guys to believe. Becasue now, all we have is 4 musicians making statements and saying in some blogs they have been recording, and then we have in the forum one of them saying they have nothing to say at the moment.
This is terrible, very very sad. Stop this, stop that statement shit and that stupid comments. It hurts.
Why can't we talk just about music? Ok, because they (tt, tk, jj, lp, jm) are always making statements, saying paranoids, blaming against each other...
Sad, sad...how can I go now and listen some Stratovarius album? Now that I know they are fighting like a bitches?
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Good luck guys!
but what happend with Lauri Porra? He will play with RR? |
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| Mocosienta wrote: |
Good luck guys!
but what happend with Lauri Porra? He will play with RR? |
Read Jens' posts again. |
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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well, I've some questions...
If the guys 'till are using the of band "Stratovarius"; first, is a little stupid but however; Can they use the name?, i guess yes, they can 'cause Tolkki didn't make the band, Lassila did it; and can they play the Stratovarius's songs like "season of change"? and finally, Could they have problems with the author rights? |
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The most obvious indication of ridicule was
'Technically and morally none of us was in the position to alone give or withhold the name Stratovarius.'
'Us' including, most notably, Timo Tolkki. |
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| RazielSR wrote: |
The only thing I can see right now, is that Tolkki is moving a lot of things. He has created a new band. There's a new album coming to us in a few days. At least, he is making something more than statements.
I/we need the same from the other guys to believe. Becasue now, all we have is 4 musicians making statements and saying in some blogs they have been recording, and then we have in the forum one of them saying they have nothing to say at the moment.
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Tolkki is the one who has to stop the madness and let go of this band now. He is still mouthing off in his own forum about how they all are "evil" and banning anyone who disagrees. He is the only one now fanning the flames between the fans.
Sure its not strange Tolkki has a new album out already, he was sneaky and had a one year and $150000 head start.
The rest of them are left with debt after that betrayal. And no matter how you try to twist this, their two statements have been short and clear compared to Tolkki's countless writings are full of horrible insults and hate. |
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| I don't think the band should rush an album out to stick it to Tolkki, if their next album is bad, then Stratovarius is pretty much done for. |
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| boswoth wrote: |
| RazielSR wrote: |
The only thing I can see right now, is that Tolkki is moving a lot of things. He has created a new band. There's a new album coming to us in a few days. At least, he is making something more than statements.
I/we need the same from the other guys to believe. Becasue now, all we have is 4 musicians making statements and saying in some blogs they have been recording, and then we have in the forum one of them saying they have nothing to say at the moment.
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Tolkki is the one who has to stop the madness and let go of this band now. He is still mouthing off in his own forum about how they all are "evil" and banning anyone who disagrees. He is the only one now fanning the flames between the fans.
Sure its not strange Tolkki has a new album out already, he was sneaky and had a one year and $150000 head start.
The rest of them are left with debt after that betrayal. And no matter how you try to twist this, their two statements have been short and clear compared to Tolkki's countless writings are full of horrible insults and hate. |
Totally agree, absolutely. I've been trying to post my own opinions of the Stratovarius....always bannded. it's a fact that the waters are really divided. And what gives me more disgust, is that Tolkki really believes that we are realizing everything he said. And personally I can see the personality of this character, thanks to all the words and posts he makes. And I realize what kind of person he is. And indeed I think it will change its name to "Yngwie". As for Jens, I see that the kind of person is much more reserved, and by what you see, more intelligent and reasonable. Talking about money, is not about someone evil!, Even Tolkki is not a bad person. But I think his tong is too long |
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browneyedgirl
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Rick Alan Ross, where are you?  :
@exe knight, if what people say here offend you so much, why are you here? You actually did not see all the criticism of the StratoGuys in RR Forum?  Man, you are blind.  |
I don't see critization of other stratomembers in RR forum... |
You have not looked very hard.  Of course, people tend to see what they want to see.
Also, TT&the Admin, over there, might have done some needed cleaning, but I doubt it.
I'll check it out later. I don't like to go there--the atmosphere makes me quite ill. |
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browneyedgirl
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| if what people say here offend you so much, why are you here? |
I'm interested in seeing how things will go, I always defend the one who's the most bashed.
Yeah but anyway, I don't really like being here, I'll ask JJ to ban me when I reach the 2000th post so that I don't get myself hurt anymore.  |
If you were a 20 year old blonde, blue-eyed female with 36C tits your idolizing would be worth something. Quite alot, actually. I had a talk with an aquaintance of mine and found out some VERY interesting things. Little things but, very interesting things. Everyone has an Achilles heel. TT is no exception.
But, he is still "pure".
I told my aquaintance she should start copying her TEXT messages, expecially whenever they are from Fat, OVER-40, MARRIED musicians who pretend to be so spiritual. Mr. Spirituality text-messaged my aquaintance off&on ALL night begging her to come to his hotel room. Nice, coming from a supposedly happily married man who declares he only has any kind of sexual relations with women he loves. Then, when she goes to his room to get the books he promises, he takes out his "TicTac"&offers her some.................Well, she turns him down flat. Man, what a pick-up line,"I got some enlightening books for ya, come&get them." Then, lying about a BJ which NEVER happened in the first place. So much for sick wishful thinking.  My aquaintance is half the age of Mr. Spirituality. I wonder how Mr. Spirituality would feel if some over-40, fat, married guy made a pass at his daughter like that? I rest my case. |
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:50 am Post subject: |
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| STINKY_PREGNANT_MAN wrote: |
| Hey brown eye girl, You complain in every post. |
Troll,
If you don't like it, LEAVE! If anyone wants to complain, they are free to do so. |
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:58 am Post subject: |
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I must apologize cotton candy, for my behavior. These pregnancy hormones certainly take their toll on my nerves, you see!
Its very good that Brown Eye Girl has friends like you to stand by her side. |
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browneyedgirl
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 6:17 am Post subject: |
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| exe knight wrote: |
| browneyedgirl wrote: |
| if what people say here offend you so much, why are you here? |
I'm interested in seeing how things will go, I always defend the one who's the most bashed.
Yeah but anyway, I don't really like being here, I'll ask JJ to ban me when I reach the 2000th post so that I don't get myself hurt anymore. |
If you were a 20 year old blonde, blue-eyed female with 36C tits your idolizing would be worth something. Quite alot, actually. I had a talk with an aquaintance of mine and found out some VERY interesting things. Little things but, very interesting things. Everyone has an Achilles heel. TT is no exception.
But, he is still "pure". But, NOT because he wanted to be. |
Demir, are you sure?
I guess I hit a nerve then! |
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Would cash in a plain brown secure envelop be OK? 
