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Timo tolkki shouldn't be stopped !

Post by Txemit » Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:05 pm

I understand that He is frustated and depressed...but music helps...and He should start to write new songs and new stuff without thinking about a date..If someday can release it better for everyone.So, He would avoid in my opinion songs like several of the last albums and could release great songs again.Probably the secret is escape of that hole where he is...and to think of a new season....season of sunshine......with new songs composed without a deadline, a new/old style, new ideas, new solos, new influences...but Timo 100 %.... What do u think guys ? you can waste your life thinking of what you could have done before and this guy deserves a new opportunity.

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Post by Equinox » Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:20 am

Man,.......Have u check the forum? There is a tipic that reads: News from timo.....have u read all that? well, i guess no. But anyway we can't push him to write songs! we can't he's getting better and IF they will unote again we will know, but we need to give our support to him isnted of being asking him for nu' things man, whats wrong?

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Post by HvyMtlClickWitch » Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:16 am

I hope that nothing stops Mr. Tolkki from doing whatever makes him happy. He deserves it, he's given so much to so many people all over the world.
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Post by Maka » Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:20 am

of course... time will say what is best for him... and we have to respect his own decision...

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Post by fifthtea_sausage » Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:32 am

Equinox wrote:Man,.......Have u check the forum? There is a tipic that reads: News from timo.....have u read all that? well, i guess no. But anyway we can't push him to write songs! we can't he's getting better and IF they will unote again we will know, but we need to give our support to him isnted of being asking him for nu' things man, whats wrong?

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What are you talking about? How is he getting better?
He has spent the last year relaxing and resting. And he still can't bring himself to do ANYTHING with music.

It isn't like us regular people who work 8 hour days 5 days a week. Instead, musicians have a free schedule outside of tours. What resting and relaxing is necessary?

Face it, he isn't getting better...how much time does one need to sit on his ass?

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Post by HvyMtlClickWitch » Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:32 am

fifthtea_sausage wrote:What are you talking about? How is he getting better?
He has spent the last year relaxing and resting. And he still can't bring himself to do ANYTHING with music.

Face it, he isn't getting better...how much time does one need to sit on his ass?
I would like to say something sharp to refute you; unfortunately, your post only makes me think "wow, i hope you're wrong". But if you're not........:cry:
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Post by browneyedgirl » Fri Nov 19, 2004 8:06 am

Like it or not, fifthtea_sausage has a good point. How many "intermissions" is this band gonna have?
I hope TT does get better&Strato gifts us with another album someday. TT has told to us the latest news--thats what we have to hold on to.
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Post by Natas » Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:27 pm

fifthtea_sausage wrote:
Equinox wrote:Man,.......Have u check the forum? There is a tipic that reads: News from timo.....have u read all that? well, i guess no. But anyway we can't push him to write songs! we can't he's getting better and IF they will unote again we will know, but we need to give our support to him isnted of being asking him for nu' things man, whats wrong?

Welcome. Peace.
What are you talking about? How is he getting better?
He has spent the last year relaxing and resting. And he still can't bring himself to do ANYTHING with music.

It isn't like us regular people who work 8 hour days 5 days a week. Instead, musicians have a free schedule outside of tours. What resting and relaxing is necessary?

Face it, he isn't getting better...how much time does one need to sit on his ass?
That lifestyle is not as glamorous as everybody thinks. And there's alot more work to it, than just touring now and then.

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Post by Txemit » Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:19 pm

of course i read news when i can, i know that Timo is quite confused and what he needs is the support and encourage him to do his passion again...I think that composing music is not a real hard working when you are not touring and you dont have deadlines and other agreements with people...What i say is that he must compose music because that can help timo too.It's often good to do things to forget deppresions instead of being on bed thinking about the same. therefore i repeat that he can start to compose without thinking in albums, tours, or other things....and who knows maybe the golden years of the band come back again...

anyway everything will be respected

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Post by Tetsuo » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:16 pm

Sorry guys but this topic disgusts me. How the hell can you ask Mr. Tolkki to write new songs? If you want him to do that because you think it could help than fine. Anything he does to get better is great. But if your pushing him to write songs just for your sorry ass to listen to them, well I'm sorry to say that but you don't have a single fucking right on what he choses to do or not. Don't you understand he needs time to recover? Do you know how hard it is to realise you're ill and you have to treat yourself? Anyway, I hope somebody understands my point. If I wasn't clear enough just PM me, we'll talk about it. (Sorry but this is very important to me...nobody has the right to attack Timo Tolkki in what he's going through)

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Post by Equinox » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:39 pm

Tetsuo wrote:Sorry guys but this topic disgusts me. How the hell can you ask Mr. Tolkki to write new songs? If you want him to do that because you think it could help than fine. Anything he does to get better is great. But if your pushing him to write songs just for your sorry ass to listen to them, well I'm sorry to say that but you don't have a single fucking right on what he choses to do or not. Don't you understand he needs time to recover? Do you know how hard it is to realise you're ill and you have to treat yourself? Anyway, I hope somebody understands my point. If I wasn't clear enough just PM me, we'll talk about it. (Sorry but this is very important to me...nobody has the right to attack Timo Tolkki in what he's going through)
Man, i'm with ya........

And 'bout the other thing: He's getting better, at least a bit, hes strong and he will get better, and i know he has began.
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Post by tkbdadsgshim » Sat Nov 20, 2004 5:36 am

Maka wrote:of course... time will say what is best for him... and we have to respect his own decision...
i'm agree with you , just the time will say , i wish him the best , he's a good guy, he must take care of himself now , he needs it.... :)
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Post by Beast_Pete » Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:01 pm

Do you guys remember the old times, when only members with 50 posts could post a topic? Let's have that limit again, so no such topics will occure in the future anymore. But maybe 100 posts would be even better.

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Post by browneyedgirl » Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:27 pm

Yes, its up to TT to decide whats best for the band&when the albums will commence again.
It will be better for all concerned if he waits to write, produce&create the new album when he is fully recovered&has a firm grip on things. That way it will be the best he can do-just like before!
However, I'd still like to someday hear the few songs it is claimed(another rumor :eyes:)TT completed with Katriina. Maybe he could add those as Bonus Tracks someday? But, maybe that is "kicking the sleeping dog", so to speak&a bad idea. :( I guess the past should remain in the past, then......
The future Stratovarius IMO will be stronger than ever before--we all just need more patience. TT knows what he is doing&what is best in the long haul. But, our impatience, in a way, is a compliment----we fans love StratoMusic so much we want to always hear more! :D
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Post by Txemit » Sat Nov 20, 2004 4:52 pm

Equinox wrote:
Tetsuo wrote:Sorry guys but this topic disgusts me. How the hell can you ask Mr. Tolkki to write new songs? If you want him to do that because you think it could help than fine. Anything he does to get better is great. But if your pushing him to write songs just for your sorry ass to listen to them, well I'm sorry to say that but you don't have a single fucking right on what he choses to do or not. Don't you understand he needs time to recover? Do you know how hard it is to realise you're ill and you have to treat yourself? Anyway, I hope somebody understands my point. If I wasn't clear enough just PM me, we'll talk about it. (Sorry but this is very important to me...nobody has the right to attack Timo Tolkki in what he's going through)
Man, i'm with ya........

And 'bout the other thing: He's getting better, at least a bit, hes strong and he will get better, and i know he has began.
I think both of you misunderstood the message, That's not the idea at all, I only wanted to show that still there is a great suppot to Stratovarius and speacially to Tolkki after all things that have happened lately.........I'm only giving my opinion about a different way of leaving that dark hole of the depression.....and what i think that is a good way to overcome those problems (cmposing music) but music for himself ...no to release an album soon......even not to release that music never......only to escape from the drepression. Of course that he only can decide what is going to do.MOST IMPORTANT I'M NOT PUSHING TIMO TO DO ANYTHING !!!

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Post by Tetsuo » Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:19 am

Txemit wrote:
Equinox wrote:
Tetsuo wrote:Sorry guys but this topic disgusts me. How the hell can you ask Mr. Tolkki to write new songs? If you want him to do that because you think it could help than fine. Anything he does to get better is great. But if your pushing him to write songs just for your sorry ass to listen to them, well I'm sorry to say that but you don't have a single fucking right on what he choses to do or not. Don't you understand he needs time to recover? Do you know how hard it is to realise you're ill and you have to treat yourself? Anyway, I hope somebody understands my point. If I wasn't clear enough just PM me, we'll talk about it. (Sorry but this is very important to me...nobody has the right to attack Timo Tolkki in what he's going through)
Man, i'm with ya........

And 'bout the other thing: He's getting better, at least a bit, hes strong and he will get better, and i know he has began.
I think both of you misunderstood the message, That's not the idea at all, I only wanted to show that still there is a great suppot to Stratovarius and speacially to Tolkki after all things that have happened lately.........I'm only giving my opinion about a different way of leaving that dark hole of the depression.....and what i think that is a good way to overcome those problems (cmposing music) but music for himself ...no to release an album soon......even not to release that music never......only to escape from the drepression. Of course that he only can decide what is going to do.MOST IMPORTANT I'M NOT PUSHING TIMO TO DO ANYTHING !!!
Sorry 'bout the missunderstanding :P

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Post by fifthtea_sausage » Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:57 am

It's often good to do things to forget deppresions instead of being on bed thinking about the same.
I agree with this.

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Post by Txemit » Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:52 pm

no problem with anybody 8)

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Post by fifthtea_sausage » Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:32 am

I think the topic title "Timo Tolkki shouldn't be stopped" is stupid.
Who would argue that Timo Tolkki SHOULD be stopped?

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Post by shaz » Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:11 pm

Good point. Nobody's stopping Timo.
I've been saying this in various threads every now and then, but why can't we just leave him be for a while?
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Post by Txemit » Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:37 pm

fifthtea_sausage wrote:I think the topic title "Timo Tolkki shouldn't be stopped" is stupid.
Who would argue that Timo Tolkki SHOULD be stopped?
Read the previous posts

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Post by Figaro1 » Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:47 pm

I personally don't understand this "praising" of Timo at all. He is what he is, does what he does and thinks what he thinks. Period.

If new Strato-albums arrive, then so be it. If not, then again,so be it.
Please stop "divining" Timo and wait for the Final News please.
I am sure of one thing:

If Stratovarius breaks up, it's gonna be reported. And if Stratovarius comes back with a new record, it's gonna be reported.
I'm going nowhere. All the way to nowhere.

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Post by Allison » Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:37 pm

I actually agree with you there Figaro. But I guess not everyone has a life so they have more time to worry over these things. :?:

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