First 3 albums

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Re: First 3 albums

Post by Dave » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:42 pm

Beast_Pete wrote:
Dave wrote:i think there's some bootleg of a show in Langen (Germany)
Not just in Langen. Check this.
by the way.. this (http://truemetal.org/stratovarius/disco ... urg_tn.jpg) would also be great new avatar for you :)
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Post by Beast_Pete » Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:00 pm

Yes, I thought of that too, but I wanted to choose only two pics.
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Re: First 3 albums

Post by Asterothe » Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:05 am

MaFiaBoY wrote: Chasing Shadows suck big time imo. The only weak track on the album.
Chasing Shadows is one of the songs that made me
Stratovarious fan at the first place :) I love the feeling and
atmosphere on that one a lot.
I'm still there, everywhere
I'm the dust in the wind
I'm the star in the northern sky
I never stayed anywhere
I'm the wind in the trees
Would you wait for me forever?

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Re: First 3 albums

Post by nepi » Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:53 pm

Chasing Shadow is still a wonderful part of Dreamspace-album. It would be wonderful if Stratovarius would open a gig with that wonderful song!
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Re: First 3 albums

Post by browneyedgirl » Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:20 pm

Chasing Shadows is a good song with meaningful lyrics alluding to/about depression&sadness. I like this song, too.
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Re: First 3 albums

Post by MaFiaBoY » Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:33 pm

browneyedgirl wrote:Chasing Shadows is a good song with meaningful lyrics alluding to/about depression&sadness. I like this song, too.
The lyrics are nice indeed but the music sucks. Too much double-bass for me.
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Re: First 3 albums

Post by browneyedgirl » Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:25 pm

MaFiaBoY wrote:
browneyedgirl wrote:Chasing Shadows is a good song with meaningful lyrics alluding to/about depression&sadness. I like this song, too.
The lyrics are nice indeed but the music sucks. Too much double-bass for me.
Chasing Shadows by Andrew Bordoni is a more metaphysical, new age theme.

Since we are discussing "shadows"., what about "Out of the Shadows" which was on Twilight Time?
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Re: First 3 albums

Post by StragOvariuS » Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:28 pm

browneyedgirl wrote:
MaFiaBoY wrote:
browneyedgirl wrote:Chasing Shadows is a good song with meaningful lyrics alluding to/about depression&sadness. I like this song, too.
The lyrics are nice indeed but the music sucks. Too much double-bass for me.
Chasing Shadows by Andrew Bordoni is a more metaphysical, new age theme.

Since we are discussing "shadows"., what about "Out of the Shadows" which was on Twilight Time?
To me is the happiest strato song ever!
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Post by Dave » Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:40 pm

i don't like this song very much.. the melody is sort of strange in my oppinion..
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Re: First 3 albums

Post by MaFiaBoY » Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:55 pm

Good song but nothing extremely great. I prefer Lead Us Into The Light or Madness Strikes @ Midnght.
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Re: First 3 albums

Post by IceBreaker » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:28 pm

In my opinion Out of the Shadows is one of the best ones in Twilight Time, but not the best. I think on that song Tolkki spells the word shadows in quite interesting way [shad-dows], it sounds so funny. :P
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Post by browneyedgirl » Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:56 pm

I guess during that time TTs English was not sharply honed as it seems to be now&various words with the Finnish accent sound quite different. Out of the Shadows I think is referring to depression&sadness, also, I assume ???
I also like Lead Us Into the Light the best on that Album.
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Re: First 3 albums

Post by FakeTolkki » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:00 am

the first 3 albuns are amazing....better then infinity, elements pt2 and the last album defnetely. The dvd of the elements album that never came out had a mix of various old songs...about 15 minutes plaiyng...amazing...hope some day that show will be released 8)

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Post by Beast_Pete » Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:43 pm

Yes, we beg for the DVD of Milan! (hopefully no new topics about it are going to be opened :lol: )
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Re: First 3 albums

Post by Stratofanius » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:13 pm

Anyone here doesn't The Hills Have Eyes? Or Madness Strikes At Midnight? Or Twilight Time? Isn't here any other Twilight Time -album fans? :cry: Seems like Dreamspace is everything to you all...

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Post by browneyedgirl » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:51 pm

Stratofanius wrote:Anyone here doesn't The Hills Have Eyes? Or Madness Strikes At Midnight? Or Twilight Time? Isn't here any other Twilight Time -album fans? :cry: Seems like Dreamspace is everything to you all...
I thought I made it clear that I love TWILIGHT TIME! =P
Is "THE HILLS HAVE EYES" based on that Horror movie? :)
Kidding :D
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Re: First 3 albums

Post by Pikkusielu » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:55 pm

Stratofanius wrote:Anyone here doesn't The Hills Have Eyes? Or Madness Strikes At Midnight? Or Twilight Time? Isn't here any other Twilight Time -album fans? :cry: Seems like Dreamspace is everything to you all...
Someone may like Twilight Time, someone might prefer Dreamspace, someone maybe likes them both, someone has never heard of them, someone doesn't like either/neither. If one belongs to any of these groups it's damn fine! I'm sure there are plenty of people who like those songs.
browneyedgirl wrote:Is "THE HILLS HAVE EYES" based on that Horror movie? :)
Kidding :D
It might be, yes... Lyrics are kinda like horror movie quotes. :twisted:

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Re: First 3 albums

Post by IceBreaker » Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:00 pm

Stratofanius wrote:Anyone here doesn't The Hills Have Eyes? Or Madness Strikes At Midnight? Or Twilight Time? Isn't here any other Twilight Time -album fans? :cry: Seems like Dreamspace is everything to you all...
Read posts and don´t ask. :wink:

I like much more TT than Dreamspace. Twilight Time has no not-good tracks at all and Dreamspace has even three weird tracks (IMHO). :roll:
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Post by nepi » Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:07 pm

Twilight Times is also very good. Very good songs and I often listen that album - still a diamond
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Re: First 3 albums

Post by Bones » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:29 pm

You can find Tolkki's best guitar riffs from Twilight Time-album, this is my opinion. But Dreamspace is my first Stratoalbum ever and the best of them all.
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The first 3 albums of Stratovarius

Post by painkiller79 » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:43 am

The first 3 albums of Stratovarius are probably the most underrated ones in the discography. Yet they are too important to be left out.

Here's my review of each album:

"Fright Night" is certainly a special album. Why? It gave birth to the best heavy metal band ever to come from Finland. Musically, it's one of a kind and certainly the first of its kind in the Finnish rock scene. Strong guitar riffs, very heavy drumming, interesting song structures and atmospheric melodies. I love this album, there simply isn't another album anywhere near like it! "Future Shock" is probably the first speed metal song to come from Finland, what a massive machine cannon of a song! "False Messiah" has some of the most interesting and artistic main guitar riffs I've ever heard...The title track has a drive that truly makes me feel heavy metal... 9/10

"Twilight Time" represents the ever growing talent and potential of Stratovarius, a signal that this band will be above others in the business. Sophisticated sound and guitar riffs, beautiful guitar leads, fantastic emotional melodies, very heavy metal! "Break The Ice" is like a fist of iron, a true heavy metal piece to say the least! "The Hands Of Time" is my spiritual favorite of the album, it's just so spine-chilling and emotional piece that I can't but listen to it and enjoy it over and over..."The Hills Have Eyes" is the strongest and fiercest metal piece on the album. Heightening feeling, metallic sound and attitude...Just massive! "Out Of The Shadows" represents the deeper inner vision that Tolkki has unleashed consecutively on each of Stratovarius albums. Truly a fantastic blast of emotion and imagination! "Lead Us Into The Light" is a great conclusion to a great album. A massive and powerful song with a sad spirit of elegy within it, yet the light of hope shines in the far end of the path... 10/10

"Dreamspace" marks the point where Stratovarius started to show a huge range of variating fields of musical talent. The album is full of top class metal songs. "Chasing Shadows" exemplifies the melodic speed metal idea, "4th Reich" shows a heavier mid-tempo style and mystical/political aspect of the band. "Eyes Of The World" is a masterpiece combination of great melody, chorus and general feeling. "Hold On To Your Dream" was voted the best Finnish rock song back in 1994 and I definitely agree to this! This song is the epitomizing song of Stratovarius: the main riffing, the vocal lines, especially the chorus...Just great! Even mightier LIVE..."We Are The Future", like the opening track, is a strong multi-package of speed metal, great feeling, great sound! "Reign Of Terror" is a super heavy metal song, massive guitars, drums like thunder, soaring vocals...and I've experienced this song LIVE last year in Nummirock!!! "Shattered" is a brutal, mean-sounding speed metal pounder! Some of the most aggressive riffs of Stratovarius! "Wings Of Tomorrow" truly live up to its name, this song captures my heart and makes me feel I'm flying towards the rising sun... 10/10

Never let go of these great albums, they are the birth of Stratovarius, the greatest heavy metal band of Finland!
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Post by browneyedgirl » Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:32 pm

What about "Tears of Ice", Painkiller? =P
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Re: First 3 albums

Post by StragOvariuS » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:11 pm

i believe that Eyes of the world fits well in a ROCKY soundtrack :D

Listen, think in ROCKY fighting, training and all that stuff and you'll agree with me.
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Post by Dawn_is_Here » Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:06 pm

StragOvariuS wrote:i believe that Eyes of the world fits well in a ROCKY soundtrack :D

Listen, think in ROCKY fighting, training and all that stuff and you'll agree with me.
Agree! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Beast_Pete » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:07 pm

Well, they are making the 6th part of Rocky atm. :)
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Re: First 3 albums

Post by nepi » Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:37 am

StragOvariuS wrote:i believe that Eyes of the world fits well in a ROCKY soundtrack :D

Listen, think in ROCKY fighting, training and all that stuff and you'll agree with me.
but the hard knocks shall be sounded by reign of terror :o
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Re: First 3 albums

Post by StragOvariuS » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:45 pm

Beast_Pete wrote:Well, they are making the 6th part of Rocky atm. :)
So, what's the Stallone e-mail? :D

we need contact him to put this classic there!!!
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Re: First 3 albums

Post by Dave » Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:49 pm

nepi wrote:
StragOvariuS wrote:i believe that Eyes of the world fits well in a ROCKY soundtrack :D

Listen, think in ROCKY fighting, training and all that stuff and you'll agree with me.
but the hard knocks shall be sounded by reign of terror :o
or by "Fight!!!" :)
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Re: First 3 albums

Post by Stratofanius » Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:24 pm

Beast_Pete wrote:Well, they are making the 6th part of Rocky atm. :)
Strange, because Stallone (btw, I hate him really much) is something like 60 -yers old :o They should hire new Rocky there 8)

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Re: First 3 albums

Post by Dave » Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:42 pm

Stratofanius wrote:
Beast_Pete wrote:Well, they are making the 6th part of Rocky atm. :)
Strange, because Stallone (btw, I hate him really much) is something like 60 -yers old :o They should hire new Rocky there 8)
i'm thinking the same about the new indiana jones movie.. harrison ford is just too old..
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