The Singles: B-Sides

[stratorobbo]

I've seen this on some playlists before, e.g. on last.fm, and seen it occasionally listed on various unofficial sites.... but what is it ? Because it isn't listed on strato's official site, or metal-archives... and I have acquired all the 28 tracks in mp3 form....

what is it?

\m/ Will

[stratorobbo]

and there are some tracks on it that aren't even on any strato albums or singles.....

[Dave]

Maybe we could help if you'd post some of the names of those songs..

[stratorobbo]

Released 2003
CD 1:
1. Full Moon
2. Solitude *
3. Speed of Light (Live)
4. Will the Sun Rise? (Live)
5. Eternity (Live)
6. Father Time (Live)
7. Distant Skies (Live)
8. Future Shock '96
9. Black Diamond
10. The Kiss of Judas (Demo)
11. We Hold the Key (Live)
12. Fourth Reich (Live)
13. Uncertainty (Live)
14. Blackout
15. 4000 Rainy Nights (Live) *

CD2:
1. Neon Light Child
2. Hunting High and Low (Demo Version)
3. Millenium (Demo Version)
4. Phoenix (Live)
5. Infinity (Live)
6. Freedom (Demo Version) *
7. Neon Light Child (Demo Version) *
8. Phoenix (Demo Version) *
9. Run Away
10. Eagleheart (Demo Version)
11. Papillon (French Version) *
12. Find Your Own Voice (Demo Version) *
13. Soul of a Vagabond (Demo Version) *


Most of these I can find on singles, but the ones marked with * .... where have they come from ?
and where has this compilation double CD come from ?

[Stratofanius]

Released 2003
CD 1:
1. Full Moon
2. Solitude *
3. Speed of Light (Live)
4. Will the Sun Rise? (Live)
5. Eternity (Live)
6. Father Time (Live)
7. Distant Skies (Live)
8. Future Shock '96
9. Black Diamond
10. The Kiss of Judas (Demo)
11. We Hold the Key (Live)
12. Fourth Reich (Live)
13. Uncertainty (Live)
14. Blackout
15. 4000 Rainy Nights (Live) *

CD2:
1. Neon Light Child
2. Hunting High and Low (Demo Version)
3. Millenium (Demo Version)
4. Phoenix (Live)
5. Infinity (Live)
6. Freedom (Demo Version) *
7. Neon Light Child (Demo Version) *
8. Phoenix (Demo Version) *
9. Run Away
10. Eagleheart (Demo Version)
11. Papillon (French Version) *
12. Find Your Own Voice (Demo Version) *
13. Soul of a Vagabond (Demo Version) *


Most of these I can find on singles, but the ones marked with * .... where have they come from ?
and where has this compilation double CD come from ?

I'm sure that it's just some bootleg.

"Solitude" is bonus track from Tolkki's first solo album. Freedom's and Neon Light Child's demos are in Intermission's japan edition. Papillon's french version is in Elements pt.1:s french edition. Find Your Own Voice's and Soul of a Vagabond's demo versions are in Elements pt.1 special edition with demo cd.

[Beast_Pete]

This is something like Intermission, but a not official one.

[Bryant]

most of these rare songs - especially the live tracks - are kind of cool. but this one song full moon, that´s really awful.

[cliff]

"Solitude" is bonus track from Tolkki's first solo album.

Not exactly.
"Solitude" is originally a track from the T&T/Noise ballad compilation "Silent Crying - Ban The Bomb" (a really great album, you people should check it!). The track was supposed to be included in the (forthcoming) Episode album, but it finally wasn't. You can however find this song in some editions of the "Classical Variations And Themes" CD (Brazilian ?)... not sure if this is totally official, btw.
There is no keyboard on that track, and not sure if the drummer was Lassila.

@Bryant : you're right. Full Moon is horrible

[IceBreaker]

There is no keyboard on that track, and not sure if the drummer was Lassila.

I heard once from very reliable source that some demos before Episode were recorded with Janne Parviainen on drums. So, maybe he played on this track...

[cliff]

There is no keyboard on that track, and not sure if the drummer was Lassila.

I heard once from very reliable source that some demos before Episode were recorded with Janne Parviainen on drums. So, maybe he played on this track...

I just asked about it to Timo on his forum. let's see...

[browneyedgirl]

Released 2003
CD 1:
1. Full Moon
2. Solitude *
3. Speed of Light (Live)
4. Will the Sun Rise? (Live)
5. Eternity (Live)
6. Father Time (Live)
7. Distant Skies (Live)
8. Future Shock '96
9. Black Diamond
10. The Kiss of Judas (Demo)
11. We Hold the Key (Live)
12. Fourth Reich (Live)
13. Uncertainty (Live)
14. Blackout
15. 4000 Rainy Nights (Live) *

CD2:
1. Neon Light Child
2. Hunting High and Low (Demo Version)
3. Millenium (Demo Version)
4. Phoenix (Live)
5. Infinity (Live)
6. Freedom (Demo Version) *
7. Neon Light Child (Demo Version) *
8. Phoenix (Demo Version) *
9. Run Away
10. Eagleheart (Demo Version)
11. Papillon (French Version) *
12. Find Your Own Voice (Demo Version) *
13. Soul of a Vagabond (Demo Version) *



and where has this compilation double CD come from ?

I'd love to have THIS compilation!!!!! :w00t: :funhi:

Can it be purchased? What is its Title?

[Dave]

Released 2003

....

and where has this compilation double CD come from ?

I'd love to have THIS compilation!!!!! :w00t: :funhi:

Can it be purchased? What is its Title?

Read the posts above you.. It's probably just some bootleg

[cliff]

Released 2003
CD 1:
1. Full Moon
2. Solitude *
3. Speed of Light (Live)
4. Will the Sun Rise? (Live)
5. Eternity (Live)
6. Father Time (Live)
7. Distant Skies (Live)
8. Future Shock '96
9. Black Diamond
10. The Kiss of Judas (Demo)
11. We Hold the Key (Live)
12. Fourth Reich (Live)
13. Uncertainty (Live)
14. Blackout
15. 4000 Rainy Nights (Live) *

CD2:
1. Neon Light Child
2. Hunting High and Low (Demo Version)
3. Millenium (Demo Version)
4. Phoenix (Live)
5. Infinity (Live)
6. Freedom (Demo Version) *
7. Neon Light Child (Demo Version) *
8. Phoenix (Demo Version) *
9. Run Away
10. Eagleheart (Demo Version)
11. Papillon (French Version) *
12. Find Your Own Voice (Demo Version) *
13. Soul of a Vagabond (Demo Version) *


Most of these I can find on singles, but the ones marked with * .... where have they come from ?
and where has this compilation double CD come from ?

just noticed : Vapaus (the Demo of Liberty) is missing. Definitely the best demo you could ever expect from Strato ! Great lyrics

[Dave]

4000 Rainy Nights is a great song, btw, i was so disappointed with the live version on Infinite Visions..

[Stratofanius]

i was so disappointed with the live version on Infinite Visions..

Almost every live song on IV is played quite bad in my opinion. Sounds sucks and song just doesn't work very well on that dvd, expect Speed of Light's (very powerful live!), Out of the Shadow's and Infinity's live version were great. Forever Free (though I like this song very much) was really pain to my ears and 4000 Rainy Night didn't work at all.
One of my favourite strato songs, Visions, sounded so bad (I mean just sound quality, band played ok) that I nearly started to laugh...

[stratoplayer]

i was so disappointed with the live version on Infinite Visions..

Almost every live song on IV is played quite bad in my opinion. Sounds sucks and song just doesn't work very well on that dvd, expect Speed of Light's (very powerful live!), Out of the Shadow's and Infinity's live version were great. Forever Free (though I like this song very much) was really pain to my ears and 4000 Rainy Night didn't work at all.
One of my favourite strato songs, Visions, sounded so bad (I mean just sound quality, band played ok) that I nearly started to laugh...

I liked Speed of Light, Visions, Infinite and the clip where Jens starts to play Black Diamond from a solo in Santiago, Chile, the rest are ok, but not brilliant.

[IceBreaker]

Forever Free (though I like this song very much) was really pain to my ears

I think the clip is so bad because it´s shooted by a very crappy videocamera. Just wonder why they have put the whole song to the DVD, only a short clip would´ve been much better because of the extra poor quality.

[Bryant]

@Bryant : you're right. Full Moon is horrible

thanks. didn´t think anyone would agree with me.

[Dave]

@Bryant : you're right. Full Moon is horrible

thanks. didn´t think anyone would agree with me.

I guess almost everyone on this forum would..

[Bryant]

I guess almost everyone on this forum would..

well, i wasn´t so sure about that. there are always these hardcore-fans that like especiallly the weird songs.

[cliff]

I guess almost everyone on this forum would..

well, i wasn´t so sure about that. there are always these hardcore-fans that like especiallly the weird songs.

I'm not so sure about that.
One thing I noticed : most of the reviews on this compilation are not positive. Many people think that adding Full Moon and Dream With Me was a terrible idea, at least to have them in the middle of the tracklist. I'm sure that the album would "sound" better if the bonus tracks were the last ones on this album.
And second thing : it's difficult to consider a compilation of Stratovarius without Destiny, without Hold On To Your Dream, without Twilight Symphony... but like says the album title, the final ones were simply "the chosen ones..."

That would be kind of perfect compilation to me :
(I only considered the period Fourth Dimension - Elements part II)

CD1 :
1-Destiny
2-Hunting Hight And Low
3-Father Time
4-Will The Sun Rise
5-Mother Gaia
6-Stratosphere (instrumental)
7-Speed Of Light
8-Visions (Southern Cross)
9-4000 Rainy Nights
10-Paradise
11-Cold Winter Night
12-Stratofortress
13-Anthem Of The World

CD 2
1-Will My Soul Ever Rest In Peace ?
2-I Walk To My Own Song
3-S.O.S
4-Black Diamond
5-Legions
6-Distant Skies
7-Forever Free
8-Before The Winter
9-Twilight Symphony
10-It’s A Mystery
11-Phoenix
12-Millenium
13-Tomorrow
14-Night Time Eclipse
15-Forever

[KraKto$is8]

I guess almost everyone on this forum would..

well, i wasn´t so sure about that. there are always these hardcore-fans that like especiallly the weird songs.

That might include me. When I'm in the right mood (quite rarely, I must admit), I quite like Full Moon. Other times, though, I share your views

[dirge]

I must be hardcore, I have two stratovarius tattoo's and like everysingle song, including full moon

[Stratofanius]

I must be hardcore, I have two stratovarius tattoo's and like everysingle song, including full moon

I think that everyone in this forum have heard Full Moon...

[dirge]

I must be hardcore, I have two stratovarius tattoo's and like everysingle song, including full moon

I think that everyone in this forum have heard Full Moon...

I know that! Just that a lot of them don't like it, me on the other hand, love it!

[stratorobbo]

@Bryant : you're right. Full Moon is horrible

thanks. didn´t think anyone would agree with me.

I guess almost everyone on this forum would..

I wouldn't.. I like this tune.. but the next - solitude. that sucks. that's got no power at all. just weakness all the way through

[stratorobbo]

and.. just listening to that album again.. the black diamond there.. it's not the original.. the lead is missing around 2:00 .. and it's just not the same.... what is this ?

[Bryant]

That might include me. When I'm in the right mood (quite rarely, I must admit), I quite like Full Moon. Other times, though, I share your views

well, i think this song sounds horrible. but i´m not really a strato-fan anymore.

[IceBreaker]

and.. just listening to that album again.. the black diamond there.. it's not the original.. the lead is missing around 2:00 .. and it's just not the same.... what is this ?

Perhaps the demo-version with totally different lyrics?

[stratorobbo]

yeah, wasn't a demo version - that kinda sucks too.. but just one with bits missing