I don't know if this has been posted already, sorry beforehand
What Stratovarius think about "The Pirate Bay"?
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nord_musician
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I was wondering... well, especially Jens as a swedish musician. What do you think about all the pirate bay issue? What you actually think about people downloading strato's songs or any other song?
I don't know if this has been posted already, sorry beforehand
I don't know if this has been posted already, sorry beforehand
Re: What Stratovarius think about "The Pirate Bay"?
I don't know if Jens has said anything in specific about The Pirate Bay, but here in THIS thread the whole piracy issue is being discussed.
Also with many good points from Mr. Johansson himself.
Hope this was of some help
Also with many good points from Mr. Johansson himself.
Hope this was of some help
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Re: What Stratovarius think about "The Pirate Bay"?
Oh thanksBuu wrote:I don't know if Jens has said anything in specific about The Pirate Bay, but here in THIS thread the whole piracy issue is being discussed.
Also with many good points from Mr. Johansson himself.
Hope this was of some help
Re: What Stratovarius think about "The Pirate Bay"?
go to
http://www.panix.com/~jens/napster.par
Its not the pirate bay but its on the subject you want to find out more on. He talks all about
downloading and stuff like that, but also other stuff to you might find interesting =)
http://www.panix.com/~jens/napster.par
Its not the pirate bay but its on the subject you want to find out more on. He talks all about
downloading and stuff like that, but also other stuff to you might find interesting =)
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Re: What Stratovarius think about "The Pirate Bay"?
Interesting indeed. It's a dated view on the subject, though, it was written years ago. Contrary to what Jens says there, I think piracy didn't affect niche markes as much not only because niche music fans are loyal and generally buy the albums more often, but also because file sharing has brought an opportunity to disseminate music, which is always a problem when it comes to niche music.Plisken wrote:go to
http://www.panix.com/~jens/napster.par
Its not the pirate bay but its on the subject you want to find out more on. He talks all about
downloading and stuff like that, but also other stuff to you might find interesting =)
Piracy is a polemic topic. I personally think PB was the scapegoat. They had to find someone guilty so they picked whoever is identifiable. I don't think this iron fist is going to be an efficient way to handle the issue, perhaps downloaders should be educated instead.
Re: What Stratovarius think about "The Pirate Bay"?
Thanks for the link Plisken.
Even though it was a little old it was interesting to read.
I also think that TPB was the scapegoat, like fernandotcl said. Probably because the site was so big and had very many users.
They had to hit and start "somewhere".
Even though it was a little old it was interesting to read.
I also think that TPB was the scapegoat, like fernandotcl said. Probably because the site was so big and had very many users.
They had to hit and start "somewhere".
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Re: What Stratovarius think about "The Pirate Bay"?
I think it's the other way around, the scenario I feared hasn't nearly played itself out yet.fernandotcl wrote:Interesting indeed. It's a dated view on the subject, though, it was written years ago. Contrary to what Jens says there, I think piracy didn't affect niche markes as much not only because niche music fans are loyal and generally buy the albums more often, but also because file sharing has brought an opportunity to disseminate music, which is always a problem when it comes to niche music.Plisken wrote:go to
http://www.panix.com/~jens/napster.par
Its not the pirate bay but its on the subject you want to find out more on. He talks all about
downloading and stuff like that, but also other stuff to you might find interesting =)
Anyway my main point I feel the same about: the core problem is not the concept of copyright. That idea is a good one that we should keep.
Re: What Stratovarius think about "The Pirate Bay"?
What are your thoughts on Spotify?JensJohansson wrote:I think it's the other way around, the scenario I feared hasn't nearly played itself out yet.fernandotcl wrote:Interesting indeed. It's a dated view on the subject, though, it was written years ago. Contrary to what Jens says there, I think piracy didn't affect niche markes as much not only because niche music fans are loyal and generally buy the albums more often, but also because file sharing has brought an opportunity to disseminate music, which is always a problem when it comes to niche music.Plisken wrote:go to
http://www.panix.com/~jens/napster.par
Its not the pirate bay but its on the subject you want to find out more on. He talks all about
downloading and stuff like that, but also other stuff to you might find interesting =)
Anyway my main point I feel the same about: the core problem is not the concept of copyright. That idea is a good one that we should keep.
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Re: What Stratovarius think about "The Pirate Bay"?
I personally have nothing against all this download stuff, I would have never propably gotten into Stratovarius or metal/music in general if my brother didn'd download all these awesome songs. 
Re: What Stratovarius think about "The Pirate Bay"?
personally, I always have this feeling that nowadays is too "easy" to get anything. if something is easy to get, you tend to not take it as precious as if you spent 10 years looking for it, dreamed everyday about it, had your life depends on it, whatever. just think how many mp3 you have in your player? 10G? 20G? and how many of them you have listened more than once?
on the other hand, the musicians spent years on making this stuff. there is fairness. like their work or not, you have to respect their effort.
because it's so easy to pick up your phone and order some pizza, many of us don't know how to cook properly. and the "real" food become even more expensive, you can only get it in fancy restaurant or grandma's house.
one day you pickup your phone and there's full catalogue of alllllllllllll music exist on earth, you just tell a track number and it will play for you... Nah, I might not bother to listen to any of them because I know I "own" all of them now.
on the other hand, the musicians spent years on making this stuff. there is fairness. like their work or not, you have to respect their effort.
because it's so easy to pick up your phone and order some pizza, many of us don't know how to cook properly. and the "real" food become even more expensive, you can only get it in fancy restaurant or grandma's house.
one day you pickup your phone and there's full catalogue of alllllllllllll music exist on earth, you just tell a track number and it will play for you... Nah, I might not bother to listen to any of them because I know I "own" all of them now.
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