Difficult question: The worst strato song(s) for you

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Re: Difficult question: The worst strato song(s) for you

Post by Verdades Parias » Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:45 pm

Sumerian wrote:
Verdades Parias wrote: Absolutely true, the men is blinded by a penis or something
And you are homophobic. I think something says about tolerance in Stratovarius message. But i guess you only listen the new stuff, and that is based more on pelicans and space ships.
I mean...this men is playing with us all the time, we all know the truth about how Timo Tolkki is sinking, He doesn't have any fucking idea of how sell his recycled music...his last 6 albums("stratovarius", "new era","SARNA" "Age of crap" "Trinity" "so so paradisum"), are inmense metal crap, and the world knows it
Timo does not need to make money, because he has artistic vision. I bet he really cares whether you think his albums are "immense metal crap" :wink:
It piss me of so much those people defending a men who lied in our fucking face, shameless...Even he still trying to convince us that 2004 was an agreement of the band...
If there is one thing we can all be sure, is that Timo Tolkki has never lied. It is very clear now, all these years later, that he was right about everything. But of course, you still attack him in extremely violent way.
yes, very extreme attack, i think Timo will survive... :? , I hope so...men admit something, behind every song, there's a men...remember that, with a very particular ego

Also believe me, writing lyrics about good things doesn't make you a Mother Teresa....is more like a Bono thing, in the outside is like he's a god touched preach...but in the inside, is just a millionaire deuchebag. Even Beethoven was an asshole. In TT case, he was a gifted composer with the capacity of make you feel touched by a magic energy, still does it, becouse I still listen to his classic songs, BUT...in the end is just a men, and yes I delivered some poo to his camp becouse I'm tired of people like you trying to erase some facts just becouse is the master guitar composer, and we are stupids becouse we don't adore our creator....AND Am I violent??? really???? who writes a book....A BOOK, cursing ex band members?? who the hell films a self shoot video of 1 and half hours explaining why...."I'm right"..."The rest are money lovers".

Ok, Maybe I'm a Violent person, I play with a Magnum with my kid once in a while, but open your eyes, you deserve more from him than he from you.

Also you forget somthing, Industry is not in the position of sign new bands for millions of dollars, EVERYONE AROUND THIS BAND IS TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING BY MUSIC, even Timo, who made the biggest mistake of his life disbanding his own band, is breaking his ass to make some decent metal songs just to make some money. Also the actual Strato guys are trying the same with dignity and honor, writing excelents albums (believe it or not, are very good), maybe they can't copy the classic Stratovarius era, but at least they aren't trying to...they are musicians with some history, trying to make a good living

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Re: Difficult question: The worst strato song(s) for you

Post by Sumerian » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:25 pm

There is so much hatred to your words, that it is truly unbelievable. Fucking hell.
.A BOOK, cursing ex band members?? who the hell films a self shoot video of 1 and half hours explaining why...."I'm right"..."The rest are money lovers".
Yes, I am not trying to pretend like Timo is some god. More like a prophet, I think. He is closer to Mohammed than Allah. He has a gift of communicating very peaceful messages but that does not mean that he doesn't make mistakes.

Difference is that Tolkki corrects his mistake and it seems that the Stratovarius mistake is still touring. Go figure....

"From Dolphins to Pelicans"
Also you forget somthing, Industry is not in the position of sign new bands for millions of dollars, EVERYONE AROUND THIS BAND IS TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING BY MUSIC, even Timo, who made the biggest mistake of his life disbanding his own band, is breaking his ass to make some decent metal songs just to make some money.
How can you know this?
I think Timo is living quite comfortably and not trying to force music, like the current immoral Stratovarius lineup. He is just writing from the heart because he must express himself.

I simply say that money should not have any place in music. Any time money crosses music, it is pure evil. We know that Tolkki is living a very pure life now, because his albums do not sell so much. And that was his genius plan the whole time...
Also the actual Strato guys are trying the same with dignity and honor, writing excelents albums (believe it or not, are very good), maybe they can't copy the classic Stratovarius era, but at least they aren't trying to...they are musicians with some history, trying to make a good living
If you call the crackhead Pelican "dignity and honor" then you are truly a blind fan and will never see the truth. You should listen maybe some Death Metal ;)

And of course they cannot copy Stratovarius era. They have tried and failed...

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Re: Difficult question: The worst strato song(s) for you

Post by Verdades Parias » Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:48 pm

Sumerian wrote:There is so much hatred to your words, that it is truly unbelievable. Fucking hell.
.A BOOK, cursing ex band members?? who the hell films a self shoot video of 1 and half hours explaining why...."I'm right"..."The rest are money lovers".
Yes, I am not trying to pretend like Timo is some god. More like a prophet, I think. He is closer to Mohammed than Allah. He has a gift of communicating very peaceful messages but that does not mean that he doesn't make mistakes.

Difference is that Tolkki corrects his mistake and it seems that the Stratovarius mistake is still touring. Go figure....

"From Dolphins to Pelicans"
Also you forget somthing, Industry is not in the position of sign new bands for millions of dollars, EVERYONE AROUND THIS BAND IS TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING BY MUSIC, even Timo, who made the biggest mistake of his life disbanding his own band, is breaking his ass to make some decent metal songs just to make some money.
How can you know this?
I think Timo is living quite comfortably and not trying to force music, like the current immoral Stratovarius lineup. He is just writing from the heart because he must express himself.

I simply say that money should not have any place in music. Any time money crosses music, it is pure evil. We know that Tolkki is living a very pure life now, because his albums do not sell so much. And that was his genius plan the whole time...
Also the actual Strato guys are trying the same with dignity and honor, writing excelents albums (believe it or not, are very good), maybe they can't copy the classic Stratovarius era, but at least they aren't trying to...they are musicians with some history, trying to make a good living

If you call the crackhead Pelican "dignity and honor" then you are truly a blind fan and will never see the truth. You should listen maybe some Death Metal ;)

And of course they cannot copy Stratovarius era. They have tried and failed...

1) I listen to Death Metal...
2) "You're so much Hate"...not hate, Reason.
3) And TIMO TOLKKI IS FINALLY A PROPHET...yyyeeeaaa...Zarathustra
4) You said: "If you call the crackhead Pelican "dignity and honor" then you are truly a blind fan and will never see the truth. You should listen maybe some Death Metal"...rrriiight...that's surely something that your prophet will tell, you are making a fool of yourself.
For your own sake, stop peeing out of the toilet, put your feets on the ground, Why some people idolize some person just for write good songs?...a PROPHET??? I'm a blind fan.... :lol:

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Re: Difficult question: The worst strato song(s) for you

Post by browneyedgirl » Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:13 am

The current immoral Stratovarius lineup.
WTF? :huh: :? :? :?

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Post by HinatAArcticA » Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:56 am

Sumerian wrote: I loved this band before they started making evil music. Yes.
Closing your eyes, don't ever say you loved them, whore. You never meant a word, I know you lied :)
Sumerian wrote: I would not expect a child to understand. :) It was a very powerful statement I made, because most idiots here are accusing me of being TT. And so, I agreed "I am TT" to show how absurd can this comparison be. Fucking hell.
You must sleep in the stinking bed that you made. :)
Sumerian wrote: I am not bashing the band. I am simply expressing my opinion about the last two Stratovarius albums, that are very offensive and evil. And quite simply, they do not make sense to call it Stratovarius. If you slice an apple in half, can you still call it an apple?
There is allways something to learn, repetition proofs it's worth.
Sumerian wrote: Fuck, I read straight from Jens "To me money is just another tool in the toolbox, needed to make music". I actually cried when I first read that because I could not believe those wicked words. How little he understands about true art... Good music is not made with money. It is made with love, and there is no love in Stratovarius. Just pelicans. But of course, a lot of money is in the band, and you tell me how is the sound. Again, "From Dolphins to Pelicans".
No word you say tonight, can make this be alright.
Sumerian wrote: I'm sorry, let me correct. Elysium is very deep in my trash can now.
In the hands of time we all will die
The dead of night will devour your child... :)
No need to feel so afraid, colors last a lifetime and fade to gray...
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Post by AAAAAAAAAA » Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:41 am

HinatAArcticA wrote:
Sumerian wrote: I would not expect a child to understand. :) It was a very powerful statement I made, because most idiots here are accusing me of being TT. And so, I agreed "I am TT" to show how absurd can this comparison be. Fucking hell.
You must sleep in the stinking bed that you made. :)
Game, set, and match. :roll:

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Post by HoldenCaulfield » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:36 pm

Hello Mayhem For All.

Seems Noah's Ark is at the end of that finnish street.

The little kid seems is gonna turn right, all of a sudden. Maybe the name of that street still in swedish.

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Post by browneyedgirl » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:59 pm

mayhem-for-all wrote:Image
Is that Dr. House running that sleigh? Hugh Laurie, I mean.
Maybe Symfonia could hire him. He plays all kinds of musical instruments, and after this season he will need a job. :D

Oh, one more thing. What the Hell is wrong with pelicans? They are kinda cute, and totally harmless birds.
Next thing you know he will be bashing penquins. :cry:

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Post by Jabi » Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:39 pm

Sumerian really isn't among our worst trolls. :)

Liking Elysium is blind fanaticism, but comparing Tolkki with prophet Mohammad somehow isn't. That was a good one. :lol:

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Post by Jabi » Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:23 pm

I'd like to add that the reason I like "Elysium" is that the music sounds good to me. The reason I like "In Paradisium" is, surprisingly enough, that the music sounds good to me.

I'm not in a position to know which band has morally better musicians simply because I don't personally know any of the people involved. I'm also firmly of the opinion that if one believes it's possible to make an in depth analysis of someone just by reading some interviews, press statements etc. and analyzing the cover art of their albums, he's being a good fool. (Or a fairly good troll.)

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Post by Verdades Parias » Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:10 am

Jabi wrote:Sumerian really isn't among our worst trolls. :)

Liking Elysium is blind fanaticism, but comparing Tolkki with prophet Mohammad somehow isn't. That was a good one. :lol:
True, maybe a Shamaan :lol:

Also is true that In Paradisum is a decent album, but i'm absolutely sure that the next one will blow us away, the only thing that can save the future of Symfonia is being open to Andre Matos and Harkin compositions. I loved both solo albums of Matos, Mentalize is a brilliant power metal album, really fresh. and in the other hand I love Mehida, a really good proggy band.

Nevertheless.....I hate Papillon. :lol:

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Post by GAGAGO » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:22 pm

Verdades Parias wrote: Nevertheless.....I hate Papillon. :lol:
Por que tanto odio? Ah si destruyo strato. :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x

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Post by RazielSR » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:47 pm

GAGAGO wrote:
Verdades Parias wrote: Nevertheless.....I hate Papillon. :lol:
Por que tanto odio? Ah si destruyo strato. :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
You meant:

¿Por qué tanto odio? Así destruyó a Strato. -Faltaría saber quien pero ok...-

or

¿Por qué tanto odio? Así destruyo a Strato.

or

¿Por qué tanto odio? Ah! Así quieres destruir a Strato....

or

¿Por qué tanto odio? Ah! Así se destruyó Strato....

or

¿Para qué tanto odio? Así se destruyó Strato....

or
or
or
..............¿?


Anyway, are you from Granada-Spain? , Granada-Colombia?, Granada-USA=California?Colorado?, Minnesota?, Mississippi?, Granada-Méjico?, Granada-Nicaragua?, Granada-Perú?

Just curious.
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Post by GAGAGO » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:55 pm

RazielSR wrote: ¿Por qué tanto odio? Así destruyó a Strato. -Faltaría saber quien pero ok...-
IGNORE

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Post by GAGAGO » Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:11 am

robocop656 wrote:I'd say.. When the sea cow meets the oreo. (Chinese demo version)
And... Purple rain (live unreleased ggonza remix)
But the bonus dubstep remix of "The horse pussy" really knocked my socks off.


And it is normal! But do not tell me you didn't make it about Tolkki too. Cause you review his work comparing the old one and are based in Tolkkis not even using his name. He was 15 then!

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Post by AGAG » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:45 am

:lol:

Oh sister! Where have you been my whole life? Did you had a caesarean too? :)
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Post by GAGAGO » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:34 am

:x :x You arch rogue South American. Where have you got the idea that I am YOUR sister? I Have NO relatives in South America. :x :x And you have to wait the rest of your life for a grown up sister. Talk to your parents! They can maybe make a new one. BUT I CAN*T HELP YOU. Hear me! I am notyour sister.

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GAGAGO wrote::x :x You arch rogue South American. Where have you got the idea that I am YOUR sister? I Have NO relatives in South America. :x :x And you have to wait the rest of your life for a grown up sister. Talk to your parents! They can maybe make a new one. BUT I CAN*T HELP YOU. Hear me! I am notyour sister.
Why to deny such a beautiful family!? you may have grown away, far far away in the arid lands of Granada but you will always be my big SISTER :) gushed out of the same womb.. remember when we held hands by the shimmering christmas tree? When it was 1 in the morning on Christmas eve? :) :) I still remember! And we would write letters to santa in hope of chocolates and Backstreet Boys records...

I still remember!

And then when you left me alone at home when you found that acne-stained dimwitted jock to escort you around your turbulent hormoneridden teenage years... :x
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Post by GAGAGO » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:16 am

I can very well understand that you more than anything would like to have me for a sister. But sorry babe. I am not and I will never be. Forget that you ever heard about me.


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Babylon

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Post by Rage1979 » Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:12 pm

Maniac dance
When mountains fall
Years go by
Neon light child
Full mooon

Top five on a list like this

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GAGAGO wrote:I can very well understand that you more than anything would like to have me for a sister. But sorry babe. I am not and I will never be. Forget that you ever heard about me.


IGNORE
How will I ever forget those eyes? :(
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Post by AAAAAAAAAA » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:32 am

AGAG wrote:
GAGAGO wrote:I can very well understand that you more than anything would like to have me for a sister. But sorry babe. I am not and I will never be. Forget that you ever heard about me.


IGNORE
How will I ever forget those eyes? :(
Just for the record, AGAG is a dog-luster who has been known to restrict her poop-output for political reasons. :roll:

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Post by AGAG » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:41 am

AAAAAAAAAA wrote:
AGAG wrote:
GAGAGO wrote:I can very well understand that you more than anything would like to have me for a sister. But sorry babe. I am not and I will never be. Forget that you ever heard about me.


IGNORE
How will I ever forget those eyes? :(
Just for the record, AGAG is a dog-luster who has been known to restrict her poop-output for political reasons. :roll:
Pfft! Or! because of unpolite anus-invaders that never clean the pool? :x You thought your piss and poop was going to magically fade away?

It crusted.
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Post by RckteerGZ » Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:34 pm

-030366 showed that Korg sounds back in the day were STUPID

-Keep the Flame makes me cry and i don't like crying

-Babylon is Egyptian and i don't like all of that

-ALL OF THE STRATOVARIUS's album songs

-all Fright Night (creepy sound)

-Emancipation Suite (both parts) are too slow.

-Paradise because i got BORED of it, besides everyone likes that song.

-Soul of a Vagabond because it's SLOW too

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Post by AAAAAAAAAA » Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:57 pm

RckteerGZ wrote: -ALL OF THE STRATOVARIUS's album songs
Because the style changed, and the extent of your musical understanding is to listen to the same song over and over again with different lyrics?? :roll:

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Post by Ilsekena » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:15 pm

RckteerGZ wrote: -Soul of a Vagabond because it's SLOW too
nyyy..Actually, this song is about ice-cream in silence!NOMNOMNOM..And ofcourse it should be eaten slowly :x

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Post by Astral Empire » Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:03 am

i hate most of the long/slow ones. particularly,

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