i didn't receive anything. I knew about that from another close to TT source.browneyedgirl wrote:Oh, Jesus! Did you get something in your box, too?Ilsekena wrote:Be tuned my friends! Soon there will be a scandal..uhuuh
The point is not whether the RUMOR is true or not but rather, nobody is perfect---not even celebs/metalists.
New Tolkki song!
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Of course TT's going to say he's innocent---he's a man, etc.Ilsekena wrote:i didn't receive anything. I knew about that from another close to TT source.browneyedgirl wrote:Oh, Jesus! Did you get something in your box, too?Ilsekena wrote:Be tuned my friends! Soon there will be a scandal..uhuuh
The point is not whether the RUMOR is true or not but rather, nobody is perfect---not even celebs/metalists.
Re: New Tolkki song!
so it seems timo is sucking at the business side of it and does not want to deal with it.
Re: New Tolkki song!
I think it is the best for him right now. Anyway, I think he will return soon...TT without music...Jabi wrote:Apparently, Symfonia is no more. This was posted on the Finnish "Imperiumi" forum.icecab21 wrote:is there any actual information about them not doing further work together?
---I don't know how many of you are interested in reading this and quite frankly, I dont even care so much, but I am just writing down some early morning thoughts regarding Symfonia and other stuff going on in my life.
As it turned out to be, it all started from a cake. I thought it might be some kind of a celestial joke and maybe it was, but when 2 fans handed me a Symfonia cake after the last gig of Symfonia's South American tour, after spending 3 nights in a 15 bucks cold motel with grey concrete walls looking like a prison in Santiago de Chile and flying 28 hours to another continent to play to audiences varying from 100 to 350, I started to think that maybe this really is it. The cake was in a funny way telling me:"hey Timo, don't you see:it's over".
And I started to really consider my whole musician's career. This happened in June.
Exactly a year before I had flown to Sweden to record 3 demo songs I had composed hoping to record some vocals of Andre. I spent there 6 days and from those days, I was able to squeeze about 6 hours of singing from him. In between going to supermarkets, changing diapers and me trying to solve some of their domestic disputes, I started to think if it was such a good idea after all.
But people liked the demos and I went full on producing the "In Paradisum" album to which I put around 1000 working hours. Andre Matos told me very clear that this band should not do any gigs if it doesnt make any money. I basically agreed but at the same time I knew that people would still consider it as a new band. Not "The Spartacus of Metal" where the gates of superstardom would open just like that. Uli Kusch had been in and out of band due to his hand injury and in the middle of vocal recordings in Sweden, he sent me a mail telling me he would never ever play any gigs in his life because "he was tired of piss smelling backstage rooms, the chaos, the travelling etc. In vain I tried to tell him that this was not what we agreed. He did tell me that if Symfonia would make a second album, we could use his name for 10 000 euros and use Alex Landenburg for the recordings. And after 10 minutes came a text message that he also wanted me to pay the taxes of his fee so it would total 13 000 euros for the usage of his name. I did not respond to that but I really found it hard to believe.
Then Matos lost his voice in the middle of the vocal recordings for 4 days and while hunting for cortison shots in the middle of the deepest Swedish countryside, I really started to think that this is not gonna work.
Well we got the vocals done, did the interviews and released the album. I still think it's a good album.
Also the Japanese earthquake messed the little touring plans the band had. Then Andre told me we could make a lucrative tour in South America booked by his manager. Apparently there was some mysterious investor that was in the game. I should have known better even hearing the word investor. I decided to do the tour and after flying 30 hours: Helsinki-Frankfurt-Rome-Sao Paulo we landed only to hear that the tour is cancelled. At that point I was already ready to buy a ticket back to Finland but they managed to make a settlement and we did I guess it was 6 gigs. It was the worst and heaviest tour I have ever done in my career.
Keyboard player Mikko Harkin developed high fever and lung inflammation that was bounding pneumonia.
While lying 2 days in Sao Paulo in Formula 1 hotel (the cheapest you can get there) in a darkness I was starting to really get doubts about my future as a musician.
When I got the sales figures from Edel Records and the report from the booking agency for the festivals of Summer 2012 I decided to call it a day. It didnt make any sense to try to "conquer" the metal world since it was obvious that there was not enough interest. Don't get me wrong, it's totally cool if there is no interest.
Then I thought about my career. Around 3000 gigs, 20 years, 20 CD's, productions, clinics, travelling. I realised that I have done a lot. I guess most of you know that I am suffereing from Bipolar Disorder, one of the worst mental disorders, but with medication and non stressful lifestyle, this illness can be controlled but never cured. Playing in a touring band is far from "non stressful lifestyle" and in fact the rock'n'roll life itself is manic with its highs and lows. In those long Stratovarius tours being undiagnosed with the illlness, I could have died. I am not kidding.
3.3 next year I will be 46. This autumn I made a decision to take some time off from music business and concentrate on something else. I have a wonderful wife and daughter, who also happens to be a world class singer. I started giving guitar lessons again. Im taking lots of photos. In other words, living quite normal life.
I do realize the marks the years have left in me and that I should rest and heal the wounds. There is a lot to heal. The music business is in extremely sick state in this moment and it's not gonna get any better. In a few years we will know what kind of form it will take. Maybe I one day take some part of it, maybe I dont. I really dont know at the moment.
So what about my future? If you are interested in that I can only say that it is possible that I will never record anything again. For some of you this might come as a relief. I don't know what the future will hold for me but I want to thank all of you who have supported me in these 22 some years. For you who havent supported me and continuosly are mocking me for example at Stratoboard (which makes me really sad mainly due lack of respect from a band that was my vision for 22 years and that still plays 80% of my songs although there is 2 guys left in the band called Stratovarius) I also want to thank you because without you guys, I could never have done everything I have done. It's been a great career. I hope the future brings more music but most likely it will not. But still after all I can say...I Did It My Way.
Hope to see you somewhere, take care of yourselves. -Timo
...Faster than light, higher than the sky, stronger than steel...We´re the legions of the Twilight...
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And what about the flower shop? Nobody cares about that? When is it supposed to be open?People always think something's all true.People never notice anything.
I worked at one once.
It was that kind of a crazy afternoon, terrifically cold, and no sun out or anything, and you felt like you were disappearing every time you crossed a road.
You're the most terrific liar you ever saw in your life. It's awful. If you're on your way to the flower shop to buy a flowerpot, even, and somebody asks you where you're going, you're liable to say you're going to the saana opera. It's terrible.
I worked at one once.
It was that kind of a crazy afternoon, terrifically cold, and no sun out or anything, and you felt like you were disappearing every time you crossed a road.
You're the most terrific liar you ever saw in your life. It's awful. If you're on your way to the flower shop to buy a flowerpot, even, and somebody asks you where you're going, you're liable to say you're going to the saana opera. It's terrible.
Re: New Tolkki song!
Many thanks for you music Timo, from the depths of my heart. I know you will return soon.
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...Faster than light, higher than the sky, stronger than steel...We´re the legions of the Twilight...
Re: New Tolkki song!
I hope he returns some day with some great music
he has done so many amazing songs
he has done so many amazing songs
Re: New Tolkki song!
now to just raise 100000 to buy some names. 30% tax on 10000, holy crap that's a lot of tax.
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Beautiful song, but Tolkki's singing voice ain't what it used to be...scorpions wrote:TIMO TOLKKI-YOU JUST DONT KNOW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrfBzv6y ... e=youtu.be
Not so happy words on this one
But still, Stratovarius is deeply indebted to Timo Tolkki, and without his songwriting, the band wouldn't be where it is today.
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Good luck, Timo!
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So the "return to dreamspace" project was completely a bunch of lies...
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It was not necessary, In Paradisum was almost a Stratovarius album, and it went not so good, so....eternity_strato wrote:So the "return to dreamspace" project was completely a bunch of lies...
He will be back just when he finds the spark again, when he finds the necessity to do it without the compromise of making money from it, is absolutely normal, some people can, others don't.
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I can do that!icecab21 wrote:now to just raise 100000 to buy some names. 30% tax on 10000, holy crap that's a lot of tax.
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More like a delusion/fantasy. He probably wanted to do it, but the reality never manifested itself. It was a good idea though, I'll give him that!eternity_strato wrote:So the "return to dreamspace" project was completely a bunch of lies...
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He pretty much always did. His creativity and innovation was his strengths. Too bad the one overcame the other. I have not been pleased with much of his actions over the past few years, but I wish him the best.icecab21 wrote:so it seems timo is sucking at the business side of it and does not want to deal with it.
Let's Rage!
Re: New Tolkki song!
My uninformed guess is that he started the project during a manic phase, and scrapped it during a depression phase.browneyedgirl wrote:More like a delusion/fantasy. He probably wanted to do it, but the reality never manifested itself. It was a good idea though, I'll give him that!eternity_strato wrote:So the "return to dreamspace" project was completely a bunch of lies...
I personally knew a bipolar person once. She was studying economics. Once, while in mania she suddenly went like "I know enough stuff already, I'll quit school and start my own business now." Her business plan was completely crazy, but it was useless trying to talk any sense to her. Ultimately, depression kicked in, and only then she realized her plan wasn't that great at all, and resumed her studies.
OMG, they fired Jari! Bastards!
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Yeah, bipolar afflicted people often have "flights of fancy" where they envision doing great things which might be good if they can fulfill them but many of these individuals have wasted tons of money and time on pursuits which they cannot complete, or even in reality pursue. It is really sad.Jabi wrote:My uninformed guess is that he started the project during a manic phase, and scrapped it during a depression phase.browneyedgirl wrote:More like a delusion/fantasy. He probably wanted to do it, but the reality never manifested itself. It was a good idea though, I'll give him that!eternity_strato wrote:So the "return to dreamspace" project was completely a bunch of lies...
I personally knew a bipolar person once. She was studying economics. Once, while in mania she suddenly went like "I know enough stuff already, I'll quit school and start my own business now." Her business plan was completely crazy, but it was useless trying to talk any sense to her. Ultimately, depression kicked in, and only then she realized her plan wasn't that great at all, and resumed her studies.