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Re: Symfonia Site and Forum is no longer up

Post by browneyedgirl » Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:29 pm

TT also had a forum from the fall of 2005 until about early 2008, when he left Stratovarius.
lol I got banned from that forum after he&I got into a stupid argument and he called me a racist on THIS forum. :lol: I did not know administrators could do that---ban someone on a totally different forum than the one a person erred on? ???
Does not matter now, did not really matter then, because only me&a couple others were servicing that forum. :lol:
pulled the plug definitively.
Not much is dead on the Internet---if you know the webpage address of an old site there's always a chance some of it still exist on the internet archive via the Wayback machine. :wink:
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Re: Symfonia Site and Forum is no longer up

Post by NeverendingAbyss » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:56 pm

JensJohansson wrote:anyone interested would have the opportunity to download the contents (you know.. thread by thread as text and then a big tarball of that, or something).
I can't wait to download "most nicest poster"!

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Re: Symfonia Site and Forum is no longer up

Post by R.F. » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:33 am

We all pay too much attention to Tolkki. Just look at his latest "pot calling the kettle black" post on Symfonia forum and you`ll see that it`s not worth to deal in any way with that bastard who behaves like a six grader.

hiro23 wrote:I mean what am I supposed to think when every site I go to that he puts up at some point gets shut down. That is a pattern and I wanted to know why it keeps happening?
Hiro, I admire your temperance and tact. But there is an answer as clear as a day. Timo Tolkki is a miserable motherfucker who looks down at everybody and is unable to communicate on equal conditions. Almost everyone on this forum tried to talk to him in a normal way but all those attempts failed. He always finds some bowl of shit to rub your face into. So the time for conversations is definitely over.

I think the best policy is to completely ignore him. Hope we`ll have some Strato news soon, may the TT related threads go down and never return back)

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Re: Symfonia Site and Forum is no longer up

Post by HinatAArcticA » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:19 am

You borrow the moment, betray your own heavens
The darkness is thickening, breathing gets harder
The balance is off, some take more than give back,
the attitude, ignorance, proved to be fatal

for that tiny spark that led our way
you poisoned the air, should you stay away, hence
Wish to be one of us, follow the trail
Take the time offered, don't toss it away

travesty, no trial, defendant is guilty
and we are the judges and sentence the jury
to pay for forgiveness with silent contentment
Stand in the line with the rest of us

We cannot carry you further today
hear what you don't say, thus help... in any way
Need you to learn how to cry without darkness
Face like the others the pain that is harmless

Feel the world has let you down
somehow, we cannot see this
Have to bear the winterburn
You can only wait, if it will fade with time

Secrecy, silence, a stench of treason
the glow of the darkness, you brought in the daylight
The cure will not kill you, there's no such mercy.
rules of the nature are fair and cruel...

we cannot wait for you, for limbo, forever
don't make us walk away, packs stay together
Fear would be justified. Will be there soon.
The things that you do will infect us too

Feel the world has let you down
somehow, we cannot see this
Have to bear the winterburn
You can only wait, if it will fade with time

Where's your trust, where's your heart, where's your soul?
Who's your friend? Who'll be there in the end?

Who do you call a friend...
should we start to bewail?

a lot of things are changing
and re-arranging
I have to say I saw it coming
yet did nothing...
In the darkest of times
B.o.B's earn the right for the name

Not all shared the idea to give you the chance to
fail us again, to bite off
the feeding hand...

counting one, two...see?
odds defying the gravity...

we'll move along, well fed puppy...
you are too confident and careless to cut it
had no rules, that is to change
or you'll forever run alone

but you never will, the little child of the wild
you've got a skin, gray coat, they hate
no, you cannot hide behind your glowing eyes
you bear the sign and it won't fade

Feel the world has let you down
somehow, we cannot see this
Have to bear the winterburn
You can only wait if it will fade with time
It Won't Fade!
No need to feel so afraid, colors last a lifetime and fade to gray...
Tony Kakko

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Re: Symfonia Site and Forum is no longer up

Post by NeverendingAbyss » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:50 am

HinatAArcticA wrote:You borrow the moment, betray your own heavens
The darkness is thickening, breathing gets harder
The balance is off, some take more than give back,
the attitude, ignorance, proved to be fatal

for that tiny spark that led our way
you poisoned the air, should you stay away, hence
Wish to be one of us, follow the trail
Take the time offered, don't toss it away

travesty, no trial, defendant is guilty
and we are the judges and sentence the jury
to pay for forgiveness with silent contentment
Stand in the line with the rest of us

We cannot carry you further today
hear what you don't say, thus help... in any way
Need you to learn how to cry without darkness
Face like the others the pain that is harmless

Feel the world has let you down
somehow, we cannot see this
Have to bear the winterburn
You can only wait, if it will fade with time

Secrecy, silence, a stench of treason
the glow of the darkness, you brought in the daylight
The cure will not kill you, there's no such mercy.
rules of the nature are fair and cruel...

we cannot wait for you, for limbo, forever
don't make us walk away, packs stay together
Fear would be justified. Will be there soon.
The things that you do will infect us too

Feel the world has let you down
somehow, we cannot see this
Have to bear the winterburn
You can only wait, if it will fade with time

Where's your trust, where's your heart, where's your soul?
Who's your friend? Who'll be there in the end?

Who do you call a friend...
should we start to bewail?

a lot of things are changing
and re-arranging
I have to say I saw it coming
yet did nothing...
In the darkest of times
B.o.B's earn the right for the name

Not all shared the idea to give you the chance to
fail us again, to bite off
the feeding hand...

counting one, two...see?
odds defying the gravity...

we'll move along, well fed puppy...
you are too confident and careless to cut it
had no rules, that is to change
or you'll forever run alone

but you never will, the little child of the wild
you've got a skin, gray coat, they hate
no, you cannot hide behind your glowing eyes
you bear the sign and it won't fade

Feel the world has let you down
somehow, we cannot see this
Have to bear the winterburn
You can only wait if it will fade with time
It Won't Fade!
Sounds gay. Is that from Symfonia?

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Post by icecab21 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:01 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85k2bbtKOeQ
what else would hinata arctica post but sonata arctica

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Post by HinatAArcticA » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:16 am

NeverendingAbyss wrote:
HinatAArcticA wrote:You borrow the moment, betray your own heavens
The darkness is thickening, breathing gets harder
The balance is off, some take more than give back,
the attitude, ignorance, proved to be fatal

for that tiny spark that led our way
you poisoned the air, should you stay away, hence
Wish to be one of us, follow the trail
Take the time offered, don't toss it away

travesty, no trial, defendant is guilty
and we are the judges and sentence the jury
to pay for forgiveness with silent contentment
Stand in the line with the rest of us

We cannot carry you further today
hear what you don't say, thus help... in any way
Need you to learn how to cry without darkness
Face like the others the pain that is harmless

Feel the world has let you down
somehow, we cannot see this
Have to bear the winterburn
You can only wait, if it will fade with time

Secrecy, silence, a stench of treason
the glow of the darkness, you brought in the daylight
The cure will not kill you, there's no such mercy.
rules of the nature are fair and cruel...

we cannot wait for you, for limbo, forever
don't make us walk away, packs stay together
Fear would be justified. Will be there soon.
The things that you do will infect us too

Feel the world has let you down
somehow, we cannot see this
Have to bear the winterburn
You can only wait, if it will fade with time

Where's your trust, where's your heart, where's your soul?
Who's your friend? Who'll be there in the end?

Who do you call a friend...
should we start to bewail?

a lot of things are changing
and re-arranging
I have to say I saw it coming
yet did nothing...
In the darkest of times
B.o.B's earn the right for the name

Not all shared the idea to give you the chance to
fail us again, to bite off
the feeding hand...

counting one, two...see?
odds defying the gravity...

we'll move along, well fed puppy...
you are too confident and careless to cut it
had no rules, that is to change
or you'll forever run alone

but you never will, the little child of the wild
you've got a skin, gray coat, they hate
no, you cannot hide behind your glowing eyes
you bear the sign and it won't fade

Feel the world has let you down
somehow, we cannot see this
Have to bear the winterburn
You can only wait if it will fade with time
It Won't Fade!
Sounds gay. Is that from Symfonia?
HURRRR
No need to feel so afraid, colors last a lifetime and fade to gray...
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Post by Krigo » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:49 am

Oh cool, Sonata Arctica before they became absolutely terrible with The Days of Grays. Didn't exactly like the dark and edgier style or Tony's "artistic" direction.

No offense to Hinata or anything, but I didn't enjoy Days of Grays in the slightest other than a couple of songs but absolutely loved Unia other than Under Your Tree (too hilarious to take seriously) and To Create a Warlike Feel (Comes off as Tony being "Artistic")

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Post by hiro23 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:16 am

R.F:I agree, I told them to go ahead and delete my profile over there, if I'm going to get punished for something I said on another forum then I have no interest in staying there.

I want to be in a place where I'm free to express my views and not be in constant fear of getting kicked off because I said something somebody didn't like.

Now I would understand if I was calling him names and trying to defame his character but I didn't do that. I really just wanted to know what the hell was going on.

Jens:I just wanted to thank you for being cool with me this whole time, not once have I felt unwelcome.
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Post by brought2ubyletterC » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:43 am

I'm sometimes toying with the idea to import older stratoforum messages here as well. There was an external site which hosted the forum in the early days and I think I have an archive of that, somewhere.
Please do, Jens! I would truly feel young again if I could see those posts from the old Stratoforum once more. :lol:

I think the old forum was on EzBoard, and it died, so if you have anything saved, that would be awesome!!!
Jens:I just wanted to thank you for being cool with me this whole time, not once have I felt unwelcome.
Nope, they've even kept me here! :lol:

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Re: Symfonia Site and Forum is no longer up

Post by Krigo » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:52 am

That's the beauty of this forum: Regardless of your point of views, what you speak about on other forums or how you feel about a certain band member you're allowed free speech to state your opinion without fear of disappearing from space and time.

EDIT: I honestly never thought that I'd get around to making 100 posts on this forum, but I'm pretty glad this is my 100th post and not just something pointless. :)

I feel like sometimes I'm too harsh on people, but I don't really mean it. :P

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Post by brought2ubyletterC » Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:56 am

^Yes, I think that's why I always return here (well, I never really leave, I just go through my phases where I'm not as active); I have experienced unfair banning or prejudice from other forums due to reasons I choose not to get much into, but no matter what, I am always welcome here. And I will never forget my surprise when Timo K. asked me what my name was here on the forum, and he recognized me! Then I was like, "oh great, he's read my posts, he probably thinks I'm a nut!" :lol:

Oh yes, and my favorite moment, meeting the "2 new guys" of Strato back in '09 and telling them it was my 4th Strato show: "Poor Timo is probably sick to death of seeing me here!" :lol:

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Re: Symfonia Site and Forum is no longer up

Post by icecab21 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:09 am

It is always sad when the ones that should not take the responsibility, do so.
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Postby Timo Tolkki » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:42 am

jello wrote:I think it's sad that Hiro is leaving us. I believe he's a really nice, respectful guy, and he's not a double face. I don't think he meant any disrespect when he started that thread in stratoforum.



Certainly not him. Guys like Krigo etc are the ones that I meant. Its weird that Hiro thinks this is about that one thread. Its not.

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Post by Krigo » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:06 am

Tolkki wrote: Certainly not him. Guys like Krigo etc are the ones that I meant. Its weird that Hiro thinks this is about that one thread. Its not.
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I'm assuming he wasn't a fan of Roberto Tiranti.

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Post by Ilsekena » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:21 am

:lol: Congratz. Karma will find you!

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Post by RazielSR » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:42 am

Finally, you see the light, Hiro :lol: :)
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Post by JensJohansson » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:43 pm

R.F. wrote:We all pay too much attention to Tolkki. Just look at his latest "pot calling the kettle black" post on Symfonia forum and you`ll see that it`s not worth to deal in any way with that bastard who behaves like a six grader.
It's about the same level as "Doro is a transvestite with a pillow under her shirt." :?

I imagine Timo has either deluded himself into thinking that what he writes is true, or attempts to intimidate me with some idea that people would think "hmmmmm, no smoke without fire".

"Hey .. if Timo writes that Doro is a transvestite with a pillow under her shirt.... or, Göran Edman is the father of the pillow because of a picture on the internet? And Hells Angels Poland fuck around a lot with Olaf Thorsen... I mean, what if the truth is somewhere in between here? No smoke without fire right?" Wrong -- sometimes there really is smoke without fire.

Anyway the important part is this: It's no coincidence, and I sense that he thinks that somehow doing this kind of stuff would pressure me to stop writing that he (Timo Tolkki) used the stratoforum to

a) try to blackmail the mother of his child
b) post pictures of his own dick
c) threaten to rape someone.


But of course he has it a bit wrong, and I will actually -- wherever I go -- continue to bring up the fact that Timo used this place to

a) try to blackmail the mother of his child
b) post pictures of his own dick
c) threaten to rape someone.


:lol:

I will repeat this stuff, oh, let's say around every time he tries to bash the band, or like in this case try to bash me for that matter with some insane made-up stories.

He is extremely fucking lucky that we're not doing any interviews at the moment, now when he is having his manic glory moment.. because personally I finally got fed up about being diplomatic about this shit, and if anyone from the press were asking, I would also explain to them how Timo Tolkki used the stratovarius forum to try to blackmail the mother of his child, to post pictures of his own dick and to threaten to rape someone ... well, I think you get the picture!

If he leaves us in peace, quits complaining that Stratovarius nowadays is a "sick band" or whatever, well, what's the point for me to keep talking about the fact that..., OK, enough of that maybe.. so, talking about what kind of a person he is nowadays. Either to you two dozen interested stratoforumites, or to Rock Hard Magazine, or anyone else.

In short: he can continue spreading his lies, I'll continue spreading my truths. :user: If he just would leave us in peace, well, let's say his life would probably be a little less stressful. This shit really blinds him still. If he would have let it go last year, Symfonia would probably still have had a worldwide record deal. Etc etc etc.
I think the old forum was on EzBoard, and it died, so if you have anything saved, that would be awesome!!!
Ezboard -- exactly, that's what it was called! I have all (or most) of the posts, somewhere.

This band -- and this forum -- has certainly been an interesting ride sometimes.

Either way, since the symfonia forum seems to be up again (yaaaay!) I can lock this thread. :lol:

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