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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by palarmux » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:22 pm

Here is my review in English, I translated it with google translator and I repaired the text a bit after google trans. I hope you understand :D


Stratovarius latest album, Polaris is clearly closer to the band's earlier output, than in 2005 become the heavy rock album. Not Stratovarius was nothing like a failed album. Although it is certainly not the best. Let's finally start :) . The band has finally taken a big leap in it's genre. But it is still, however, clearly Strtovarius and it is power metal, as fans will want to see. It is not, however, Stratovarius "golden period" of visions destiny, etc., etc., because it has a lot of new nuances. The music is more pompous, as before. And I think it is just a wonderful thing. Tempos are calculated as the time goes far and double basses can not hear so much, even as a couple of paragraphs. Shows the tracks clear progressivity. It is time to reform a fun and fits in very well. It is a good-flavored power metal. These reforms sound like Sonata Arctica Unia album, but the music doesn't sound so much sonata. Polaris tracks are now more and more keyboard shares which, at least appeal to me. There should be much more quitar too. Atmospheric songs improve Lappajärvi gold throat Timo Kotipelto, whose voice is strong, even stronger, as in Tolkki's times. As Kotipelto Polaris said to be positive, it is absolutely true. Although the songs contain proge spices they do not have it for longer. In fact, a little shorter than the songs are. The album's longest piece is about seven minutes, because, unlike nearly all previous boards have sugar from the bottom of a long stripe. No variation is invigorating.

Tolkin scandals should not arise, since he is no longer in the band, Kotipelto assured the interview. In fact, canned Stratovarius broke up, but others do not want it and set up the band again without the cans. Guitarist works Matias Kupiainen, who was also involved in the three Polaris song compositions. I think they sound good. Kupiaisen solos are lovely variety, as Tolkin solos repeated himself, owe them listened for 20 years, and the style has not changed much. Kupiainen is at least as good as canned, although it is so young.

And now I say to each piece something. The albums's start the single already been published in "Deep Unknown," which is a pretty good opening track, but there it is not the albums best. It is a good opening track, because it is not too fast, not slow. That the solos are, however, the ears stroking. So different and it is the intention. Song music video was interesting. (9)

Next track "Fallen Star" is clearly slower than the track "Deep Unknown." It is interesting, not terribly ordinary song. Yet it is the best in the disc. The recital is a lot of interesting sounds. (8½)

After Falling star, takes a very melodic song "King of Nothing." It is personally my favorite song from the album. It starts exciting march, which is probably the image of track lyrics the army. Jen's piano sound comes from the outset to support the march, and the result is a wonderfully exciting. Players will slowly under. Kotipelto sings recitals strophe interesting "ambition", which is suitable song lyrics. However, the chorus sing with feeling. this song is now my favorite song from every band!(10)

The fourth track is "Blind" begins with a familiar Jen's piano sounds again. Pianosound finally ends and the real music starts. This is one of Polaris fastest tracks. Not bad, not bad. Recital Kotipelto give back their best. The fifth song is another calm (9½)

"Winter Skies." That also includes a lot of inspiring visual effects, but in my opinion is the best in Polaris. It has the ears Stroking rock ballad (8+)

"Forever is today" It is closer to traditional Stratovarius, who is a good thing that the album, so all tracks doesn't repeat itself. At start it sounded slightly Tolkki's Revolution Renassancen "Heroes" each. This song is another strong song, and comes to the album in my opinion the second best piece. (10)

The seventh song is "Higher we go," which was the in Deep-Unknown single too. The track has a relatively rapid. The track is clearly delighted. Kupiaisen guitar solo was especially powerful and my favorite quitar solo in Polaris. The track is nicely done, but Kotipelto wrote the song too much Kotipelto-band style. It would be better agreed with the Lord's solo album, but it does not matter. As I said, this is refreshing. (9)

The eighth track "Somehow precius" It's a good song, but too quiet, as they have been a few already. In this case, the album just to repeat itself, but the smaller the error check. It is a charming album of songs. (8+)

The following two tracks, who would rather count as one piece in two parts. Track names are the Emancipation suite part I and II. First part begins pompous drum package. The part is also the best. The second part begins with a calm manner. It is really a good calm song, but this time the awfully strong. second part will be forced to mind Dream Theater, and it is in this case a good thing. (9 from part I and part II 9 too)

This fine album from a whole to decide a little too syrupy song "When mountains fall" The track is yes, I think pretty good, lyrics are full of love story. In fact, I like it quite a lot, it brings to mind a lot Stratovarius "The land of ice and snow," and Episode classic "Forever." It is a short track. However, it is a brilliant end piece to the great disk. Specialty these tracks was the fact that the drummer, all except the participants were strongly composition and lyrics, by the time Tolkin canned took 95% of the songs. (9)


In short, the Polaris is a positive and wonderful album, the band has taken a big step forward in music among the public. Stratovarius got quite a lot of negative publicity in some of the scandals and because of the dispute. Now the future looks bright. Yes was good to wait, as the proverb says telling.

9/10 Awesome

Ratings: 1) can't listen 2) awful 3) really bad 4) bad 5) moderate 6)good 7) Very good Cool Great 9) awesome 10) masterpeace :)

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Polaris

Post by Valkyrie Lycan » Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:00 am

I was one of the lucky ones who have been able to see Stratovarius in Manchester, where I bought my long awaited copy of Polaris and as the saying goes "All good comes to those who wait"

I must admit I was a bit anxious about how the band would develop after the split, but all worries were unfounded. First of all the band was a joy to watch at the gig, even though there were sound problems. It has been a long while since I seen the band like this, even with the sound problems and the venue not being filled to full capacity (due to poor advertising as I found out later), the band seemed to enjoy themselves and you could physically feel the change.

This comes as well across in the new album Polaris. I listened to it the same night the moment I came home, could not wait till next morning - IT BLEW ME AWAY!!! Stratovarius is back and very vibrant. Reminds me of a phoenix - the band has most certainly moved on and rekindled the fire which was lacking for a long while.

This now is a band which has been set free to develop their own style with inputs from more than just one member, which is refreshing to see. Polaris is a very versatile album and is taking Stratovarius to the next level. Powerful, positive, versatile and most of all teamwork - the difference between other albums before is that this is an album which represents the band in all it's colours and not just from the perspective of one band member - goes without saying that this album receives 10/10 from me. TT leaving has set the band free to experiment with different ideas and still embracing some of the old Stratovarius spirit.

Out of all the misery Stratovarius has shown that they are most certainly hold their own - Polaris is a phenomenal album, can't wait for the next one.

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by rikkertje » Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:33 pm

Just received the Japanese Edition.! When I heard Second Sight on YouTube I wasn't too exited. But now I hear it in good quality and it's really a superb song!

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by RazielSR » Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:48 pm

I'm still thinking the same. Polaris is a masterpiece and it is for me the best Stratovarius after Episode, Fourth Dimension and Visions.
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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by Burning Reflection » Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:50 pm

rikkertje wrote:Just received the Japanese Edition.! When I heard Second Sight on YouTube I wasn't too exited. But now I hear it in good quality and it's really a superb song!
I bought the Japanese version too! Isn't the packaging the most amazing thing for a cd you've seen? A hologram cover, Japanese lyric book, extra photo booklet and a bonus track is worth the extra $20 if you're a fan of the band don't you think?

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by Ragehead91 » Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:58 pm

No. It is not. I will not spent 20 bucks on the same album twice.

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by NightScreamer » Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:23 pm

I have to say the stuff with tolkki was better... I think he is a crazy bastard too, its just hes a good musician. Good album better than AoA, but they were best together.

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by rikkertje » Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:13 pm

Burning Reflection wrote:
rikkertje wrote:Just received the Japanese Edition.! When I heard Second Sight on YouTube I wasn't too exited. But now I hear it in good quality and it's really a superb song!
I bought the Japanese version too! Isn't the packaging the most amazing thing for a cd you've seen? A hologram cover, Japanese lyric book, extra photo booklet and a bonus track is worth the extra $20 if you're a fan of the band don't you think?
Yep for me it's definately worth it! :)

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by rikkertje » Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:14 pm

Ragehead91 wrote:No. It is not. I will not spent 20 bucks on the same album twice.
Well at first it was only my idea to buy the Japanese version. But because it took so long for that one to get here I also bought the Digipack version. So I didn't had to wait for so long. :)

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Post by fernandotcl » Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:50 pm

Yeah I'll try to get the Japanese version as well cause I really liked "Secondo Saito". :lol:

But if I can't get it in two more weeks then I'll buy the regular version and try to get the Japanese version later... Or maybe wait for Intermission 2. ;)

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by Eruaistaniel » Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:56 pm

Well, I've been waiting a bit to post mine...

At first Polaris sounded reeeaaally good (but my first listening was at the Italian FC party, so it wasn't that "clear" :P )...

Then I found myself listening and listening to it again and again... Hehe now can't stop playing it!

That is really a great album! In my opinion, the last really good Strato album was Infinite (of course, some excellent songs in both Elements and Stratovarius, though), but now they are back with something really splendid... I love all its power-songs, mid tempos and ballads. This new "way" of making things brought something really interesting, fresh and beautiful! :luv1:

Matias is also a great guitar player and composer (and a very nice person also!)...

Well, I know someone said that in this album there's no soul... but I'd rather say there are 5 free souls in it.

And to those who thinks that "something" is missing, I feel free to answer that for one thing missing, there are so many more new ones in here...

Stratovarius higher they go! :music:

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by Valkyrie Lycan » Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:46 pm

Eruaistaniel wrote:Well, I've been waiting a bit to post mine...

At first Polaris sounded reeeaaally good (but my first listening was at the Italian FC party, so it wasn't that "clear" :P )...

Then I found myself listening and listening to it again and again... Hehe now can't stop playing it!

That is really a great album! In my opinion, the last really good Strato album was Infinite (of course, some excellent songs in both Elements and Stratovarius, though), but now they are back with something really splendid... I love all its power-songs, mid tempos and ballads. This new "way" of making things brought something really interesting, fresh and beautiful! :luv1:

Matias is also a great guitar player and composer (and a very nice person also!)...

Well, I know someone said that in this album there's no soul... but I'd rather say there are 5 free souls in it.

And to those who thinks that "something" is missing, I feel free to answer that for one thing missing, there are so many more new ones in here...

Stratovarius higher they go! :music:

100% spot on, Bullseye - I find it hard to put that album down too - every time you play it you discover new elements in each song you previously missed - Polaris has very quickly reached my top spot of favourite albums, had it looping yesterday whilst doing some work. it inspires and yes Matias is a brilliant guitar player, excellent choice - 5 souls set free to create magic - indeed, could not agree more.

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by Lurdi » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:16 pm

The more I listen to Polaris the more I like it! I love this album!!!

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by mayhem-for-all » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:41 pm

Lurdi wrote:The more I listen to Polaris the more I like it! I love this album!!!
I on the other hand have listened to it too much lately.
Losing something.
But thats propably because I have bought a big pile of other records and I have other new things.

Still a great album.

E: Nah just a feeling. Now I am listening to emancipations and they are great as ever.

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by hiro23 » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:13 pm

I can't remember if I've reviewed this or not however if I haven't here is my review.

I like many others didn't know what to expect when I recieved my the new album, I knew it was going to be different but I didn't know if I was going to like it. Well let me tell you that my fears were laid to rest when I put this album in, song after song I was constantly being blown away with how great the musicianship on this album is. Yes the album is different from the Tolkki material but that doesn't mean it's bad, merely different. There is a new spirit in the band which seems to have given it a renewed energy.
Kotipelto and Kupainen make a great songwriting team, all three of their songs are excellent, also Johansson and Porra have really shown what they can do in terms of songwriting, these two should co-write a song together.

All in all I'd say the band has shown that they can make really great, really catchy music on their own.

I say both Stratovarius and Revolution Renaissance have quite a future ahead of them, in this case it's a good thing both bands have decided to do things seperatly.

This album gets a 10/10 in my opinion, I'm looking forward to the next album and am hoping it goes beyond this one.
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Post by fernandotcl » Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:05 am

Lurdi wrote:The more I listen to Polaris the more I like it! I love this album!!!
Same! I have been listening it on a daily basis since I got it.

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by NeonVomit » Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:14 pm

I finally got my hands on it yesterday, and paid 21.90 euro for it (am currently in Cyprus). Cd prices are a fucking joke, and then the major labels wonder why their revenues are falling through the floor.

Anyway, my review. I won't bother going through each song as plenty of people have already done that, but overall I really really enjoy this disc. It reminds me of something between Elements and Infinite, very epic but not as bombastically so. The atmospheres and nuances captured in it are wonderful, and there's a few odd little touches and details that are very cool. The classical influences are there, perhaps not as obvious as before but they make just as big an impact on the overall sound. Jens is probably the biggest single factor of the sound, but I really loved how all 5 members really melded their own skills and particular sounds to a cohesive whole.

My favourite tracks? Blind, Deep Unknown, Winter Skies and Emancipation Suite (which was oddly reminiscent of Babylon in a few ways).

I'm very pleased with this album and it's definately a return to form.
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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by hiro23 » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:43 pm

NeonVomit wrote:I finally got my hands on it yesterday, and paid 21.90 euro for it (am currently in Cyprus). Cd prices are a fucking joke, and then the major labels wonder why their revenues are falling through the floor.

Anyway, my review. I won't bother going through each song as plenty of people have already done that, but overall I really really enjoy this disc. It reminds me of something between Elements and Infinite, very epic but not as bombastically so. The atmospheres and nuances captured in it are wonderful, and there's a few odd little touches and details that are very cool. The classical influences are there, perhaps not as obvious as before but they make just as big an impact on the overall sound. Jens is probably the biggest single factor of the sound, but I really loved how all 5 members really melded their own skills and particular sounds to a cohesive whole.

My favourite tracks? Blind, Deep Unknown, Winter Skies and Emancipation Suite (which was oddly reminiscent of Babylon in a few ways).

I'm very pleased with this album and it's definately a return to form.
I know it's a controversial opinion(and I know this cause I've been condemned for it) but I think this album is an example of classic Stratovarius, I can't stop listening to it, it's like the lays potato chips I can't have just one
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Polaris big dissapointment

Post by Overkill1000 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:41 am

mmm everyone seems to like this new album, but I really can't see why, to me the music sounds boring, it was really so much better with TT, the vocals sound kinda forced, don't you think? I mean after this long I really expected a masterpiece, and they come up with this???!! How can someone compare the songs in this album to songs like black diamond, playing with fire, hunting high and low, etc.
I really think the only "good" song of this album is deep unknown and it can't hold a candle to any of the ones I mentioned. I know that the band is trying something different, but I don't know maybe it's too different??

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by mayhem-for-all » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:07 am

How can someone compare the songs in this album to songs like black diamond, playing with fire, hunting high and low, etc
Oh thats very easy.
Actually Higher We go is much like Hunting High and Low.
When Mountains Fall is like Forever.
Forever is Today is like Speed of Light or No Turning Back.


See wasn't so hard.
I know that the band is trying something different,
I don't think they were trying to do anything. They just did.
to me the music sounds boring
Sorry can't help that.

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by Mormegil » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:11 am

Overkill1000 wrote:How can someone compare the songs in this album to songs like black diamond, playing with fire, hunting high and low, etc.
I honestly feel that in terms of quality (whatever that means to everyone), songwriting and production several of the Polaris-songs can easily challenge many of the old Strato-classics.
I mean songs like Black Diamond, Playing With Fire or Hunting High And Low are great, but not untouchable.

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by icecab21 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:20 am

Some people seem to like to use the word "boring" as if it could possibly mean anything to anyone else.

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Post by Mormegil » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:38 am

icecab21 wrote:Some people seem to like to use the word "boring" as if it could possibly mean anything to anyone else.
In my experience, people using that term IRL are often those raised by MTV, who can't take any song that's over 3-minutes long.

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by RazielSR » Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:05 am

Just imagine Polaris after Infinite album (for example), I'm sure that this people saying: "ooooh what a shit!" would say: "wow!! a masterpiece!!" It's all about opinions and biased people.
I'm not biased cause for me Timo Tolkki is the best composer (not in RR and Elements or self-titled) and Jens, Jörg and Kotipelto the best musicians, they were the perfect line-up for me but now we have a different one and I'm happy with the music we are getting. Stratovarius like we knew with Tolkki won't happen again, mainly because he is not in the band. But if you can't listen STRATOVARIUS SOUND in songs like Forever is today, Winter Skies, Blind, King of Nothing and others...C'mon we have Jens there composing and this new guys called Lauri and Matias making really talented music. Then we have TK improving his compositions too, mainly thanks to Matias I think, interesting team.

So if you don't like Polaris, it's ok. Say it here with respect and there's no problem, "turn around and start to walk".
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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by Stratowarius » Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:20 am

:)" Turn around and start to walk " is a very good advice. Or why not "Start to run like hell, I am coming for you!" 8)

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by Overkill1000 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:46 pm

Well after listening to the entire album again I realized it's not bad. Maybe it's just like someone said: some of us were expecting to hear the "classic" stratovarius and that's just not going to happen. But I really don't know what to think: I mourn TT leaving but maybe the direction the band is going with the new guy (I cant remember his name) will turn out really great.

But where does higher we go and hunting high and low sound alike to you?? The lyrics are completely different, the music is different too. The only thing in common is the "high" in their name

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by RazielSR » Mon Jun 15, 2009 1:50 pm

Well, HHAL is a lot better than HWG imo.
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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by mayhem-for-all » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:47 pm

Overkill1000 wrote:Well after listening to the entire album again I realized it's not bad. Maybe it's just like someone said: some of us were expecting to hear the "classic" stratovarius and that's just not going to happen. But I really don't know what to think: I mourn TT leaving but maybe the direction the band is going with the new guy (I cant remember his name) will turn out really great.

But where does higher we go and hunting high and low sound alike to you?? The lyrics are completely different, the music is different too. The only thing in common is the "high" in their name
It's not the melody but Similar structure.
I mean both are short fast songs with a chorus that have good backing vocals.
the Sound world is quite similar.

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Re: Polaris - Your Review

Post by Ragehead91 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:00 pm

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST ALLMIGHTY! He doesn't like the album! Let him have his opinion and stop to pick it to pieces!

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Post by Overkill1000 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:00 pm

Ragehead91 wrote:JESUS FUCKING CHRIST ALLMIGHTY! He doesn't like the album! Let him have his opinion and stop to pick it to pieces!
Nah it's not like that, it's just that I liked stratovarius a lot more when TT was in it. Mainly because the guitar is heavily underused and this album it's much more keyboard-dependant

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