
Nordic - must be the first difference of opinion for us in what, 5 years?

HMCW - well said.

Hey. No one said that!Fireblade wrote:Hello? Timo's not a murderer or a drunk driver!
I'm sorry but who the hell are you to say such things?!? TT, don't appologise to that guy...fifthtea_sausage wrote:Wow, Timo must be a complete asshole.
Next time he'll kill someone.
I would, however, like proof of this rumor.
OMFG!!:omg: *faints*STRATOPHILIUS wrote:well according to the rate in the STRATO shop 1 euro= 1.2169 dollars and so its about 8820 dollars her in the US!!!!!....lol...I can never imagine paying that much for a speeding ticket...I only work part time becuase im still in college so that would be almost my entire years pay...lol
Agreed, this is just fair.The Enigma wrote:Fines for a same offence in Finland are based on the idea of loosing a certain equal percent of daily income, no matte wether rich or poor. That would be equal if it worked as it was intented. Sometimes it fails, but in most cases it can be considered as fair punishment.
Rumor? Proof? It was in a major newspaper with an interview of Tolkki.fifthtea_sausage wrote:I would, however, like proof of this rumor.
Just like the Kabbalah thing ?ForceMajeure1 wrote: Rumor? Proof? It was in a major newspaper with an interview of Tolkki.
What are you on
And probably that wasn't too bad for him as the car he was driving was Lamborghini Diablo, I would imagine the price of that car in Finland was some 2 million FIMcliff wrote:Just like the Kabbalah thing ?![]()
Even if you are a great famous guitar player or the leader of one of the biggest company from Finland (few years ago, the boss of a huge company - I think it was Saunalahti/Jiippi - had a ticket for high-speed, and if I remember right, the amount of his ticket was 1 million FIM (170 000€).
To make a comparaison, a 100€ ticket would totally ruin me
From what I remember, most part of the finnish tabloids talked more about his great car than about him!Jaakko wrote: And probably that wasn't too bad for him as the car he was driving was Lamborghini Diablo, I would imagine the price of that car in Finland was some 2 million FIM
True enough. This particular law makes perfect sense, though...Invinoveritas wrote:Well, the law is the law, but in this shitty country of Finland, many laws are straight from the arse...
No offense (don't take it personally) but it sounds really inapropriate to think how big money you'll get, if your parents are killed in a car accident.STRATOPHILIUS wrote:I rather they do get killed by a rich guy than a poor one... either way their dead at least I will get compensation from a rich guy....a
I disagree about this. After all, very few people are rich enough to get these ridiculous tickets. Considering a mid-class person in Finland pays an approx average of 15 000 euros in taxes annually, some speeding tickets don't mean shit to the government economy, no matter how big they are.cliff wrote: However, I agree about you, about the theory that the main aim of this law is that the governement can get lot of money from rich people. Still, it's a great thing, cause then, those rich can understand the danger of driving fast.
No, I don't think it's fair to have any ticket over an excess of a couple hundred dollars. But I do think it's f*cked up when someone like me, who is disabled and on a limited income as it is, has to pay a price that to me, is very expensive, while someone who has much more money pays the exact same price and it is nothing to them. In a way, for them, it is like no big deal because they can afford it and they'll just break the law again. I think a law where the fee is based on the person's income would be a good thing. Tickets should strap you just enough financially to remind you of why you shouldn't break the law. It shouldn't cause you to be broke, but cost you enough money to where you can't buy that extra luxury you wanted that month or whatever. Then you learn your lesson, and think better of it next time. When a person who is extremely wealthy is paying the same fee for a ticket as I am, they aren't learning anything. It's just a drop in the bucket to them. On the other hand, I'm being fined more than just losing a luxury for the month. In the case of our last ticket, it was money taken away from our food budget, or money that we could use for something we needed. Granted, we shouldn't have parked there, but still, if it were someone in the same situation but driving a BMW, they would think nothing of it, and keep on doing the same old thing. On the other hand, we have learned never to park in that space even if the merchant at the store gives his permission that we can. In other words, I feel the fines should be set up to where whoever gets caught feels it enough in their wallet to think twice about it the next time, not so much that they're broke. I'd never condone that.Well either way whether your rich or poor shouldn't matter ..i mean would you go into a restaraunt and expect to pay 2 dollars for a hamburger because your poor or vice versa pay 100 for a hamburger becuase you rich....that to me doesn't make since....how bout this if you cant afford the ticket dont speed.... you shouldnt make a law that discriminates agaisnt wealthy people and expect them to pay thousands of dollars where as if they were poor they only pay a hundred that to me doesn't seem very fair....
Hey, I'm all for that!one judge here in America did for some guy who had a DUI made him drive around with big old magnets and the sides of his brand new car for at least a year saying something about his crime.....that to me was probably more influential having to always explain to people why he has to have those signs on his car...i bet he'll think more than twice before driving drunk again....