São Paulo, Brasil - DVD - Set List

MaFiaBoY · Post by **MaFiaBoY** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:16 pm

Pikkusielu wrote:
NeonVomit wrote:I love Elements Pt. 1. Adore it, its one of my favourite Strato albums.
At last someone I can agree with.

Same here !

IceBreaker · Post by **IceBreaker** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:04 pm

MaFiaBoY wrote: Couldn't agree more. I WANT ...INSTEAD OF THE F***ING BORING DESTINY, Well, OK this was a little childish but I'm really REALLY disappointed with the setlist.

At last someone I can agree with.

IMHO, Destiny is one of the most boring epic Strato songs. They have so much better/more rocking epic ones instead of this.

No, if you´re willing to get your goal (in this case to change the setlist), sometimes you may sound also childish. At least I could think so.

P.S. Damn my English sucks sometimes...

Bones · Post by **Bones** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:18 pm

IceBreaker wrote:P.S. Damn my English sucks sometimes...

I think everyone understood what you meant

But about Destiny, i think it's so boring song that Strato should drop it from setlist.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:23 pm

the first half of the song is so amazing.........

IceBreaker · Post by **IceBreaker** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:40 pm

Bones wrote: I think everyone understood what you meant

But about Destiny, i think it's so boring song that Strato should drop it from setlist.

Yeah, I think so too. I would be very happy if they would replace Destiny with Infinity for example. Infinity gives so much special feelings.

Patricia · Post by **Patricia** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:29 pm

IceBreaker wrote:I would be very happy if they would replace Destiny with Infinity for example. Infinity gives so much special feelings.

Infinity would be great indeed.

But what about Paradise? I think it would be really great to hear it on live!
I love this song, special feelings too. :luv1:

Bones · Post by **Bones** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:45 pm

Patricia wrote:
IceBreaker wrote:I would be very happy if they would replace Destiny with Infinity for example. Infinity gives so much special feelings.
Infinity would be great indeed.
But what about Paradise? I think it would be really great to hear it on live!
I love this song, special feelings too. :luv1:

Yeah Paradise is so great hit that it's a must. But about epics

Infinity would be perfect replacement for Destiny.

Patricia · Post by **Patricia** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:51 pm

Bones wrote:Yeah Paradise is so great hit that it's a must. But about epics Infinity would be perfect replacement for Destiny.

About epics? Infinity, yes!

It would be good to hear it indeed, cause i think they don't play it so often...and it misses!

Eagle+ · Post by **Eagle+** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:08 pm

I'd really love to hear "Babylon" live

MaFiaBoY · Post by **MaFiaBoY** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:14 pm

Bones wrote:
Patricia wrote:
IceBreaker wrote:I would be very happy if they would replace Destiny with Infinity for example. Infinity gives so much special feelings.
Infinity would be great indeed.
But what about Paradise? I think it would be really great to hear it on live!
I love this song, special feelings too. :luv1:
Yeah Paradise is so great hit that it's a must. But about epics Infinity would be perfect replacement for Destiny.

NO WAY ! Elements is the one !

Bones wrote:Yeah Paradise is so great hit that it's a must.

Those "this one is a must, and also this one and this one. Oh, and this one too."-things led us to completely unoriginal setlists like this one. PLEASE STRATO, surprise us and play songs that are NOT "musts" , even Full Moon if you want :p

stratoplayer · Post by **stratoplayer** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:26 pm

MaFiaBoY wrote:
Bones wrote:
Patricia wrote:
IceBreaker wrote:I would be very happy if they would replace Destiny with Infinity for example. Infinity gives so much special feelings.
Infinity would be great indeed.
But what about Paradise? I think it would be really great to hear it on live!
I love this song, special feelings too. :luv1:
Yeah Paradise is so great hit that it's a must. But about epics Infinity would be perfect replacement for Destiny.
NO WAY ! Elements is the one !

Bones wrote:Yeah Paradise is so great hit that it's a must.
Those "this one is a must, and also this one and this one. Oh, and this one too."-things led us to completely unoriginal setlists like this one. PLEASE STRATO, surprise us and play songs that are NOT "musts" , even Full Moon if you want :p

that kind of defies the point of playin "fan favorites"....

MaFiaBoY · Post by **MaFiaBoY** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:32 am

stratoplayer wrote:
MaFiaBoY wrote:
Bones wrote:
Patricia wrote:
IceBreaker wrote:I would be very happy if they would replace Destiny with Infinity for example. Infinity gives so much special feelings.
Infinity would be great indeed.
But what about Paradise? I think it would be really great to hear it on live!
I love this song, special feelings too. :luv1:
Yeah Paradise is so great hit that it's a must. But about epics Infinity would be perfect replacement for Destiny.
NO WAY ! Elements is the one !

Bones wrote:Yeah Paradise is so great hit that it's a must.
Those "this one is a must, and also this one and this one. Oh, and this one too."-things led us to completely unoriginal setlists like this one. PLEASE STRATO, surprise us and play songs that are NOT "musts" , even Full Moon if you want :p
that kind of defies the point of playin "fan favorites"....

I've always thought this "we're gonna play whant the fans wanna hear"-thing was bullshit, I'm sure of it now. IMO the guys must play what THEY enjoy playing. And I'm pretty sure they're quite sick of playing the same old songs over and oer again.

Patricia · Post by **Patricia** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:53 pm

Yes, i think they should play what they want too..but anyway, Paradise is not the most old song played live...
Anyway, everybody have their opinion..

Bones · Post by **Bones** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:22 pm

MaFiaBoY wrote:I've always thought this "we're gonna play whant the fans wanna hear"-thing was bullshit, I'm sure of it now. IMO the guys must play what THEY enjoy playing. And I'm pretty sure they're quite sick of playing the same old songs over and oer again.

No offense!

I didn't say "I" like paradise, but it is just one of the songs that fans always want to hear. And about playing songs that they don't usually play, I think it doesn't work. Maybe when there's not so much people listening, it would be fun. And it's just your opinion

Like TT said on finnish side: "We're not playing for you, we're playing for fans."
It was just like this situation.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:45 pm

yeah, they should not give a fuck about their fans want to hear, cause their fans are the ones who are buying their albums! i think without their fans it wouldn't be so easy for them to play concerts, so they should something back to their fans

MaFiaBoY · Post by **MaFiaBoY** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:55 pm

Bones wrote:Like TT said on finnish side: "We're not playing for you, we're playing for fans."
It was just like this situation.

They should be playing in first for themselves. Anyway, I'm pretty sure most people who voted on this song-poll were not "fans" but people who have bough Visions and Episode and downloaded a couple of other songs and listen to Black Diamond all day long.

And about playing songs that they don't usually play, I think it doesn't work.

Why not ? If the "fans" are so narrow-minded to reduce Strato's discography to 20 songs I think it's a shame...

Stratofanius · Post by **Stratofanius** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:12 pm

Well, if you all say that new DVD is same kind like Visions of Europe, then look at Iron Maiden's A Real Live Dead One and Live at Donington setlists. Yeah, same expect in ARLDO has some songs even more...

But, this year they played lots of those 20 year old songs so Iron Maiden can do anything surprising, but seems like Strato can't...

MaFiaBoY · Post by **MaFiaBoY** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:20 pm

Stratofanius wrote:Well, if you all say that new DVD is same kind like Visions of Europe, then look at Iron Maiden's A Real Live Dead One and Live at Donington setlists. Yeah, same expect in ARLDO has some songs even more...

Those are totally different... L@D is one complete show while ARL/DO is a kind of compilation of songs taken from different shows. And besides it was the same tour so pretty normal they play the same songs.

But, this year they played lots of those 20 year old songs so Iron Maiden can do anything surprising, but seems like Strato can't...

I think it is to promote their "Early Days" DVD, they only play songs from the 4 first albums. The old fans must have been very happy with it, to hear Wrathchild or Prowler they thought never hear again. Too bad there was no Charlotte The Harlot on Paris gig...

Bones · Post by **Bones** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:14 pm

MaFiaBoY wrote:
Bones wrote:And about playing songs that they don't usually play, I think it doesn't work.
Why not ? If the "fans" are so narrow-minded to reduce Strato's discography to 20 songs I think it's a shame...

That's exactly what I mean

. I agree with you when you said that Stratovarius SHOULD play songs they don't usually play, but most of the "fans" just want to hear those 20 songs. That's why it doesn't work

. "Fans" will be disappointed.

Stratovarius really should play more stuff from their first three albums.
Iron Maiden, Helloween and others play stuff from their first albums, even if there was almost completely different lineup when those songs were made.
But not Strato

THAT'S a shame

stratoplayer · Post by **stratoplayer** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:37 am

id love to hear black nigth, witch hunt and fire dance

IceBreaker · Post by **IceBreaker** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:59 am

stratoplayer wrote:id love to hear black nigth,

Yeah, and specially if TK would speak before Black Night the normal "We have a song beginning with Black..." like he does with the song everybody knows.

MaFiaBoY · Post by **MaFiaBoY** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:54 am

IceBreaker wrote:
stratoplayer wrote:id love to hear black nigth,
Yeah, and specially if TK would speak before Black Night the normal "We have a song beginning with Black..." like he does with the song everybody knows.

Now THAT would be a good laugh !

stratoplayer · Post by **stratoplayer** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:15 am

Or a serious letdown

MaFiaBoY · Post by **MaFiaBoY** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:34 am

Maybe then they'll see who the TRUE fans are

alpha&omega · Post by **alpha&omega** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:08 am

Maybe they add some songs or clips etc. from elements in milan to new DVD..

It`s very possible...

MaFiaBoY · Post by **MaFiaBoY** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:14 am

alpha&omega wrote:Maybe they add some songs or clips etc. from elements in milan to new DVD.. It`s very possible...

Then I would perhaps consider buying it

stratoplayer · Post by **stratoplayer** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:11 pm

somewhere here i heard that they were going to add other stuff, but i forget in which thread it was

MaFiaBoY · Post by **MaFiaBoY** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:59 pm

stratoplayer wrote:somewhere here i heard that they were going to add other stuff, but i forget in which thread it was

I read it too but it would be nice to know ASAP what that "other stuff" will be. If it's drunkvideos a la Infinite Visions, no way.

Jabi · Post by **Jabi** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:33 pm

Stratofanius wrote:
Mormegil wrote:I agree, that set list is almost perfect (only missing Night Time Eclipse).
Have they really ever played Night Time Eclipse live? They should play it, that song is one of the best songs that Stratovarius has done.

Absofuckinglutely.

Too bad it isn't "a hit".

Stratolily · Post by **Stratolily** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:04 pm

IceBreaker wrote:
Mormegil wrote:I agree, that set list is almost perfect (only missing ...).
I agree too, the setlist rocks but instead of awful Will the Sun Rise? I´d expected Infinity to hear. That is the only bad thing now.

You don't like Will The Sun Rise?

It's like hearing someone saying " I don't like chocolate"...
Well, in my case, Will The Sun Rise? was the first stratosong I've ever heard, so it's too special for me. I think it's great, I just love it!

I must say it really dissapointed me that they choosed Brazil to record his DVD. It makes me sad...

Pikkusielu wrote:
NeonVomit wrote:
I love Elements Pt. 1. Adore it, its one of my favourite Strato albums.

At last someone I can agree with.

Same here !

Then we are four

And I don't agree with the ones that think that Destiny is boring.
Damn it! It's such a beautiful song! The whole album is so wonderful, and it's so sad...

When they played Destiny here in Chile, in last agost, the whole teather seemd to fall down! All the people drived totally crazy!
It was amazing!

@Mafiaboy: I agree with you so much! It would so amazing to hear "Elements" live! I love that song!

Mafiaboy wrote:
They should be playing in first for themselves. Anyway, I'm pretty sure most people who voted on this song-poll were not "fans" but people who have bought Visions and Episode and downloaded a couple of other songs and listen to Black Diamond all day long.
Why not ? If the "fans" are so narrow-minded to reduce Strato's discography to 20 songs I think it's a shame...

Damn it! I agree with you once again... There's a group of people that the only albums that likes are Episode and Visions and thet say that the other albums are sh*t. I think this people is just fan of these albums, but not Strato fans...
And I couldn't choose "my favorites strato songs" in this other topic that Jens posted. It is just too hard! I think I like all the songs!

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