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Don't get me wrong,but...

Post by Verdades Parias » Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:23 am

I just saw the setlist from the gig in Sweden, the last jun 12. I mean...is the same set list 7 years ago...c'mon. It's really time for change the songs, there are so many, look at this:

Hunting High and Low
Speed of Light
The Kiss of Judas
Deep Unknown
Phoenix
Winter Skies
A Million Light Years Away
Forever
Visions (Southern Cross)
Eagleheart
S.O.S.
Paradise
Black Diamond


So many classics, so few songs from polaris, the best f***ing record of 2009...it's lame.
I'm sorry for this, but this are facts

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Post by Rebel » Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:56 am

agreed 100%.

Setlist should be something like this.
1. Blind
2. Eagleheart
3. The Kiss of Judas
4. A Million Light Years Away
5. Speed of Light
6. King of Nothing
7. Instrumental Duel
8. Foreveer is Today
9. Night Time Eclipse (Personal favorite, you could probably cut this if you had to)
10. Phoenix
11. SOS
12. Deep Unknown
13. Distant Skies
14. Legions
15. Winter Skies
16. The Land of Ice and Snow
--- Encore
17. Father Time
18. Black Diamond

Running Time 87 minutes+Instrumental duel. 79 if you cut Nighttime Eclipse
It mixes the heavy and slow songs, with an emphasis on the heavier (That makes for a better live show) and it intermingles the Polaris songs with the classic hits (With the KoN/Lauri-Matias Duel/Forever Is Today run to emphasize what the new band has to offer). But most importantly, it features 5 songs from Polaris.

for a 40 minute festival setlist
Deep Unknown
Speed of Light
Phoenix
Forever is Today
Distant Skies
Legions
Eagleheart
Black Diamond

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Post by icecab21 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:53 am

the same set list 7 years ago
Deep Unknown
Winter Skies
pretty crazy that they played those songs seven years ago.

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Post by RazielSR » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:20 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
...Faster than light, higher than the sky, stronger than steel...We´re the legions of the Twilight...

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Post by rikkertje » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:08 pm

I will post my dreamsetlist soon too. Have to think about it.

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Post by Verdades Parias » Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:59 pm

icecab21 wrote:
the same set list 7 years ago
Deep Unknown
Winter Skies
pretty crazy that they played those songs seven years ago.
Oh c'mon, you know exactly what i was saying. Indeed Iron Maiden played the whole last album entirely and sold every ticket, in their current tour theres 12 songs from their last 4 albums, and they did not played RUN TO THE HILLS!!!

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Post by ggonza43 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:26 pm

icecab21 wrote:
the same set list 7 years ago
Deep Unknown
Winter Skies
pretty crazy that they played those songs seven years ago.
He didn't mean that, but this quote was like :lol:!
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Post by robocop656 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:37 pm

Pshhh....Dude rumor has it they are gonna do a world tour playing the whole fright night cd from beginning to end. They got a big fucking snake with LED lazer lights in his eyes with animatronics jens programmed in pearl and Jens++. What a fucking stage show!! snakes on a motherfucken stage

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Post by NeonVomit » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:15 pm

I think you broke my soul, robocop.
"Beneath the freezing sky arrives Winter's Verge..."

http://www.wintersverge.com


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Post by robocop656 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:12 pm

So...you like the Fright Night album a lot?


My favorite setlist would be:

Stratosphere
Stratofortress
Holy Light
Father Time
Tomorrow
Phoenix
Forever Free
Find your own voice
Freedom
Learning to fly
And closing with Celestial Dream :o


then the whole "Heavy Machinery" cd by Jens :lol:

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Post by foerg » Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:33 pm

Verdades Parias wrote:I just saw the setlist from the gig in Sweden, the last jun 12. I mean...is the same set list 7 years ago...c'mon. It's really time for change the songs, there are so many, look at this:

Hunting High and Low
Speed of Light
The Kiss of Judas
Deep Unknown
Phoenix
Winter Skies
A Million Light Years Away
Forever
Visions (Southern Cross)
Eagleheart
S.O.S.
Paradise
Black Diamond


So many classics, so few songs from polaris, the best f***ing record of 2009...it's lame.
I'm sorry for this, but this are facts

well, it´s always great to hear visions live, destiny is imo the best opener... from polaris i would prefer to hear blind or higher we go to winter skies... but i think that playlist is ok

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Post by adrian9 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:02 am

this is crap, the back catalogue of stratovarius is huge!! specially the fist 3 albums that are pretty ignored and there is a LOT of great songs there.
Hunting High and Low
Speed of Light
The Kiss of Judas
Deep Unknown
Phoenix
Winter Skies
A Million Light Years Away
Forever
Visions (Southern Cross)
Eagleheart
S.O.S.
Paradise
Black Diamond
that is a pretty cool set list you got a taste of everything stratovarius is capable of, if you want to go futher.....but the albums!!
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Post by Gilles » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:10 am

Would love to hear; Against The Wind, Tomorrow, The Land Of Ice And Snow, Hold On To Your Dream, Anthem Of The World...

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Post by icecab21 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:13 am

They should just forget about concerts in front of groups and focus on customized private concerts where they play whatever the individual wants them to play.

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Post by shg » Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:47 am

Verdades Parias wrote:
Hunting High and Low
Speed of Light
The Kiss of Judas
Deep Unknown
Phoenix
Winter Skies
A Million Light Years Away
Forever
Visions (Southern Cross)
Eagleheart
S.O.S.
Paradise
Black Diamond

Last Saturday I saw the band and the show was absolutely fabulous! Setlist was this but without Visions and it was perfect. Pyrotechnics worked fine!

Thousands of thanks to the whole band! :spin2:

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Post by rikkertje » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:27 am

Intro
Deep Unknown
Forever Free
The Kiss of Judas
Blind
Eagleheart
Winter
Speed of Light
King of Nothing
Destiny
Forever is Today
Coming Home
Emancipation Suites I & II
Against The Wind
Forever
Black Diamond
--
Falling Star
United
--
Legions

It would be perfect for me. What do you people think about this one?

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Post by stratopoland » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:21 pm

My favorite setlist would be:

Stratosphere
Stratofortress
Holy Light
Father Time
Tomorrow
Phoenix
Forever Free
Find your own voice
Freedom
Learning to fly
And closing with Celestial Dream
I think TK could be take the longest shower in his carrer during the first three tracks :lol:

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Post by ggonza43 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:07 pm

adrian9 wrote:...specially the fist 3 albums that are pretty ignored and there is a LOT of great songs there...
Except for "Hold On To Your Dream" which I've read there was in some setlist even when Tolkki was still in the band. But that's something really true; it's a pity that "Fright Night", "Twilight Time" and "Dreamspace" are soo underrated that they don't even play a single song of them live. I personally don't like "Fright Night" that much though, but it would come as a total surprise I think to everyone if they out of the blue start playing "Break The Ice" or "Future Shock"...or maybe "Thin Ice" :lol:; who can imagine such a terrifying song live? It'd scare the shit out of me if they perform it!
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Post by kameli » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:43 pm

adrian9 wrote:this is crap, the back catalogue of stratovarius is huge!! specially the fist 3 albums that are pretty ignored and there is a LOT of great songs there.
+1
They should practice the whole discography and choose songs randomly to every gig!

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Post by robocop656 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:23 pm

kameli wrote: They should practice the whole discography and choose songs randomly to every gig!
Holy shit balls!! You crazy!!

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Post by Rebel » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:00 am

the problem is that Stratovarius has had such a revolving door of a lineup, you could put together 3 lineups, without any overlapping members, the current lineup had nothing to do with the first 3 albums so it would basically be like playing covers.

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Post by robocop656 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:35 am

Rebel wrote:the problem is that Stratovarius has had such a revolving door of a lineup, you could put together 3 lineups, without any overlapping members, the current lineup had nothing to do with the first 3 albums so it would basically be like playing covers.
Don't get me wrong, I think you like listening to Pinball Map by In Flames.

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Post by robocop656 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:47 am

When I think of this band, all I think of are the songs from Episode, Visions, Elements...that's the songs I first heard of. It's hard to think of them sounding like "Fright Night" because I never liked those cds honestly. Honest Abe. Opinions are like assholes.....everybody's got one!! Baha!!

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Post by icecab21 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:57 am

they are already playing songs that no one in the band has writing credits for.

3 lineups without any overlap? the band has only had two drummers in the lineup unless we count the stunt stuff and count anders as a former band member or sami for session work

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Post by HinatAArcticA » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:07 am

I say: Be patient.
New album is coming and new songs shold be played.

Also, what about songs from the first 3 albums?

I say I want a Fright Night/Twilight Time/Dreamspace tour! :lol:
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Post by ggonza43 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:38 pm

robocop656 wrote:It's hard to think of them sounding like "Fright Night" because I never liked those cds honestly.
Something to start with
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Post by Polaris » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:15 pm

Verdades Parias wrote:I just saw the setlist from the gig in Sweden, the last jun 12. I mean...is the same set list 7 years ago...c'mon. It's really time for change the songs, there are so many, look at this:

Hunting High and Low
Speed of Light
The Kiss of Judas
Deep Unknown
Phoenix
Winter Skies
A Million Light Years Away
Forever
Visions (Southern Cross)
Eagleheart
S.O.S.
Paradise
Black Diamond


So many classics, so few songs from polaris, the best f***ing record of 2009...it's lame.
I'm sorry for this, but this are facts
For me is a nice set list, but I would love to hear another different songs too, principally some old songs like We hold the key & Galaxies.........

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Post by Rage1979 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:16 pm

Verdades Parias wrote:I just saw the setlist from the gig in Sweden, the last jun 12. I mean...is the same set list 7 years ago...c'mon. It's really time for change the songs, there are so many, look at this:

Hunting High and Low
Speed of Light
The Kiss of Judas
Deep Unknown
Phoenix
Winter Skies
A Million Light Years Away
Forever
Visions (Southern Cross)
Eagleheart
S.O.S.
Paradise
Black Diamond


So many classics, so few songs from polaris, the best f***ing record of 2009...it's lame.
I'm sorry for this, but this are facts
I think that 2 songs from Polaris on a festival show is optimal. It's far from their best albums even if it quite good. I'd rather have more rare-played old songs.

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Post by Jude » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:41 pm

Well, Polaris album tour is almost over and they are already making new album, so i think they will leave like 1 song from Polaris to the setlist. It seems like the new album includes gooood stuff, so maybe they will play 4-5 songs from that on the future tour?

It's difficult to ditch songs like Black Diamond and Hunting high and Low because those are classics, and people want to hear them when they go to see a Stratovarius gig. But songs like A Million Lightyears Away and Eagleheart for example could be replaced if you ask me.

I really hope they will play some rare Episode songs on the next tour (Eternity, Uncertainty, Season Of Change or Night Time Eclipse) because Episode has its 15 year birthday on 2011 :)

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Post by robocop656 » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:18 am

ggonza43 wrote:
robocop656 wrote:It's hard to think of them sounding like "Fright Night" because I never liked those cds honestly.
Something to start with

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