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Dreamchild

Post by stormbringer78 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:41 pm

Great song from RR on Tolkki's myspace, great solo.

http://www.myspace.com/timotolkkiofficial

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by foerg » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:40 pm

nice to hear something new...

and time for stratovarius to do the same...!

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by rikkertje » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:43 pm

Cool to hear new stuff indeed. The only thing is that I really can't stand Gus' voice. I don't know what it is. I just really dislike his sound. The song itself is kinda cool! :)

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by Balu » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:53 pm

Good song, too bad Gus is a terrible singer.

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by Rebel » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:13 pm

That's a sick guitar solo.

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by Mormegil » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:05 pm

Nice, catchy, rocking "radio friendly" song. The solo is amazing.

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by adrian9 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:48 pm

rikkertje wrote:Cool to hear new stuff indeed. The only thing is that I really can't stand Gus' voice. I don't know what it is. I just really dislike his sound. The song itself is kinda cool! :)
hahaha yeah !! I dont think he is a bad singer, but dont seem to fit in for some reason....I put it this way, gus is good, Timo K is god...what a huge difference an "o" can make :lol:
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Re: Dreamchild

Post by icecab21 » Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:03 am

to say he is a bad singer is just being a idiot. its a solid vocal, people can dislike it, but the vocals are solid

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by Star_Ocean » Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:27 am

icecab21 wrote:to say he is a bad singer is just being a idiot. its a solid vocal, people can dislike it, but the vocals are solid
Why is it that whenever I come here once in a blue moon, I always run into you saying something even dumber than the last?

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by empi » Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:50 am

Hmm it's ok.Nothing special in my opinion.Tolkki did better music with much more soul and feeling.

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by NeverendingAbyss » Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:56 am

Sounds like Thunderforce.

Thunderforce sounds like Stratovarius.

Stratovarius sounds like an orgasm.





YYYYEEEEAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by AGAG » Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:22 am

The song is good. But I agree with some of you. Gus isn't a bad singer, but he doesn't fit in that nicely. Tolkki should try to get guys like these:

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And of course, the solo is cool
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Re: Dreamchild

Post by mayhem-for-all » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:07 am

Like I already said the song is definately not disappointing but not the best ever either.
You can still hear a lot of AoA in there but with something new too.

I think this song would fit some other singers a lot better.

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by RazielSR » Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:33 am

I have listened this song around 15 times and I don't like it. The solo is very good. The chorus is horrible. Gus sounds strange and the song as a whole, dissapoints me.
We'll see the rest of the album.
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Re: Dreamchild

Post by rikkertje » Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:59 am

adrian9 wrote:Timo K is god...what a huge difference an "o" can make :lol:
Haha! Well, I also think TK is good and not god! :P He was better when he was younger though. :)

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by Hubble86 » Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:24 pm

:x Same were you! :x

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by rikkertje » Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:36 pm

Hubble86 wrote::x Same were you! :x
:lol: True! Although I'm only a 20 years young guy now! :P

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by Babylonian » Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:57 pm

Great song with great chorus and solo.

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by Kosmo » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:30 pm

rikkertje wrote:
adrian9 wrote:Timo K is god...what a huge difference an "o" can make :lol:
Haha! Well, I also think TK is good and not god! :P He was better when he was younger though. :)
Opinions are quite fun, i mean i think exactly the opposite! :)

I mean TK was reeeally good when he was younger but now i like him even more when he doesn't try to soar sky high with his voice.

Some like the mother and some like the daughter.

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by rikkertje » Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:42 pm

Kosmo wrote:
rikkertje wrote:
adrian9 wrote:Timo K is god...what a huge difference an "o" can make :lol:
Haha! Well, I also think TK is good and not god! :P He was better when he was younger though. :)
Opinions are quite fun, i mean i think exactly the opposite! :)

I mean TK was reeeally good when he was younger but now i like him even more when he doesn't try to soar sky high with his voice.

Some like the mother and some like the daughter.
I also like the fact that he doesn't sing high all the time anymore. But sometimes he still tries it, and that is something he shouldn't do anymore. Because IMHO he can't deliver it powerful anymore. How much he wishes to still sing Father Time live, it's just not good. I love his lower voice though. Hope he does a lot with that in the new album and on the coming tours. :) Transpose some older songs down maybe.

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by Kosmo » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:00 pm

I totally get what you're saying now that i'm listening to Father Time from Polaris live... :wink:

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by rikkertje » Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:14 pm

Kosmo wrote:I totally get what you're saying now that i'm listening to Father Time from Polaris live... :wink:
You are the first person here who doesn't bash me for saying my opinion about TK!:) Thanx!

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by Hector Leonardo » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:03 pm

Michael Kiske has no problems to sing high live although he is older than Kotipelto. :)
Part of Stratovarius sound are those high melodies and I think they should stay there as well.

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by Kosmo » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:16 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuMrIFcn ... ure=search

This kind of leaves you with a mixed feeling about that subject. :P

But as said i prefer his voice in general now, on albums and when he doesn't try too high.

Oh and about Dreamchild: It's not bad, i would call it good..Nothing special really. Just a good song for radio plays, the solo did kick ass though.

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by adrian9 » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:22 pm

Michael Kiske has no problems to sing high live although he is older than Kotipelto. Smile
Part of Stratovarius sound are those high melodies and I think they should stay there as well.
Michael kiske is on another planet dude!! that voice is pure golden! a phenomenon indeed

...and you know guys I really was on the idea that kotipelto was getting better through the years... I might listen again to the old records
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Re: Dreamchild

Post by raattori » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:30 pm

blaah, this song is so heard before. i think theres nothing new. its same old cathcy intro/chorus and killer solo. I dont like that really unclean guitarsound :(. But i dont get me wrong, i didnt say i dont like the song, it just doesnt sound new.

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by rikkertje » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:49 pm

Hector Leonardo wrote:Michael Kiske has no problems to sing high live although he is older than Kotipelto. :)
Part of Stratovarius sound are those high melodies and I think they should stay there as well.
Yes it's true that the high melodies were part of Strato's past. But wouldn't you like to remember them as they were when they were recorded instead of TK hopelesly trying to sing them these days.

Just listen to Father Time from Polaris Live. It's just not powerful and not good.

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by Rebel » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:06 pm

I'm going to let you in on a little secret rikkertje.
Concerts are not put on for people to record and scrutinize. I saw Stratovarius in Cleveland, they sung Father Time, I walked out of the venue thinking "Wow, that was a GREAT show, TK was incredible".
I then, a few months ago, found a bootleg of that same very show, I listened to Father Time, Forever is Today, and other songs you cited as "Weak" performances, on the bootlegs, you're absolutely right. Sitting in my music cave, listening to those songs off my carefully crafted sound system, they weren't all that good. But I maintain that actually HEARING them in a live setting, the show wouldn't be the same without them. So if you want to argue that they shouldn't play songs that sound bad on a bootleg or a youtube video, go right ahead. But I'd rather hear songs that sound great at the concert, and Father Time is one of those songs.

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by rikkertje » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:43 pm

Rebel wrote:I'm going to let you in on a little secret rikkertje.
Concerts are not put on for people to record and scrutinize. I saw Stratovarius in Cleveland, they sung Father Time, I walked out of the venue thinking "Wow, that was a GREAT show, TK was incredible".
I then, a few months ago, found a bootleg of that same very show, I listened to Father Time, Forever is Today, and other songs you cited as "Weak" performances, on the bootlegs, you're absolutely right. Sitting in my music cave, listening to those songs off my carefully crafted sound system, they weren't all that good. But I maintain that actually HEARING them in a live setting, the show wouldn't be the same without them. So if you want to argue that they shouldn't play songs that sound bad on a bootleg or a youtube video, go right ahead. But I'd rather hear songs that sound great at the concert, and Father Time is one of those songs.
Well I heard TK sing Father Time live too. And I didn't like it at all. Just weak and forced. I loved the atmosphere at the concert though. But still I don't like to hear him trying to sing songs he once could sing really good.

But hey, everyone their opinion. :)

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Re: Dreamchild

Post by AAAAAAAAAA » Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:49 am

Hector Leonardo wrote:Michael Kiske has no problems to sing high live although he is older than Kotipelto. :)
Somehow I think we hit the nail quite well. :)

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