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Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:35 pm
by Tarhaea
This case is already worn out pretty much but I still decided to create this thread in order to find out how people feel.

In my opinion, Tolkki is definately better singer for Stratovarius. He has a voice nobody else has and reason I like it is its mysteriousness and deepness. In some songs he can bring even some melancholism to power metal. Tolkki can do what almost every other power metal-singer fails at: bring something new to power metal-vocals. It's not just all about Kiske high-shouts. He can add something more to it. Sing from his own feelings passionately. I think he is the best clean vocal-singer in world.

Kotipelto fails to bring emotion to his singing. He doesn't sing about his own thoughts, he sings about someone else's. His vocals hardly bring anything new to the power metal-genre, it's very much alike Kiske.

Stratovarius' three first albums are easily better than the rest. My personal favorite album is Twilight Time. Even though it's very hard, I'd say my favourite song is The hands of time. Most of the songs in those three albums carve very deep to listener's mind, making you think about various things. All songs sang by Kotipelto can never impress with their atmosphere like songs sang by Tolkki.

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:42 pm
by Balu
Oh God, they can't even be compared, TK is that much better.

Also, comparing him to Kiske is kind of an insult too imho.

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:45 pm
by ggonza43
They were great singers, but at the same time it's like listening to 2 different bands. With this being said, I prefer the post-Tolkki era; my vote goes to TK :)

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:45 pm
by NeverendingAbyss
I won't vote.

The two have found their respective abilities.TK started with drums but found out he has a marvelous voice. Tolkki's voice is different in a sort of bad point of view than a typical high-voice Power Metal singer, but his guitar style stood out from all of the other guitar players of said genre.

This poll doesn't make sense today, in my opinion. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:02 pm
by Polaris
Tolkki is a great composer but Kotipelto is the best singer for Stratovarius!
:wink:

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:41 pm
by AAAAAAAAAA
This is the toughest question since Bruce Dickinson vs. Paul Di'Anno. :lol:

Tolkki sounds great on Dreamspace, but overall TK is the voice of the band.

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:43 pm
by robocop656
I vote Geddy Lee.

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:04 am
by ggonza43
AAAAAAAAAA wrote:This is the toughest question since Bruce Dickinson vs. Paul Di'Anno. :lol:
Now that's really hard :D!

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:56 am
by valo_666
1. Tolkki can sing, Kotipelto is a singer.

End of the story :lol:

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:03 am
by AGAG
TK is hot so I voted for him

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:45 am
by Grambambuli
Easy one. Kotipelto is a singer, Tolkki is not.

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:08 am
by Kecos
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Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:23 am
by HinatAArcticA
Well, I like VERY much Tolkki's voice and how it works with the songs he sanged. I also think he could have singed some songs on Episode and maybe some from Visions. But they would have been as good as Kotipelto's versions. And there's no way Tokki's voice would fit songs like Learning to Fly or Find your Own Voice. Tolkki's voice is more like a heavy metal voice, and I like it very much, but for Strato, Kotipelto is the best.

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:06 am
by Tarhaea
Yeah I guess the difference between you guys' music tastes and mine is the fact I like more like dark side of metal. I do like some power metal but most of the bands I like are melodic death metal or symphonic black metal. As an example, Norther is melodic death metal but it is very strongly infuenced by power metal (loads of double bass, keyboard solos and such). How Norther beats Kotipelto Strato is the fact vocals don't ruin the music itself imo. Petri brings awesome dark atmosphere that isn't too much of cliche still. I just somehow dislike the all-out power metal that is very often about something positive element of life. As an example, Strato's probably the most famous song, Black Diamond, I definately like some of it musically. But with vocals, I somehow start to digust it since it's about love. How I think Strato changed musically is very crucial as well. Tolkki didn't play that big part with his guitar, keyboards and drums took over more. Thats not like that in all songs but in old songs, most melodies came from his guitar and that is what liked to hear.

Anyways we all have our taste of music, don't we?

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:32 pm
by browneyedgirl
TK is THE voice of Stratovarius but Tolkki does have a great singing voice. Its undeniable.

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:57 pm
by Kosmo
Tolkki has an unique and a great voice.
Kotipelto has the Stratovarius voice.

I voted Kotipelto although at times i would have liked to see what kind of music Strato would have made after dreamspace with Tolkki on the vocals.

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:55 pm
by Tarhaea
I think its pity now that TT is kicked from Strato he doesn't want sing. I could understand somehow while he was in Strato because that would have created nasty competition between him and TK if he would have sang in RR for example. I think now when he is no longer in Stratovarius he should create some solo stuff where he is singing tbh.

ps. TK has Stratovarius voice in those people's minds who think he is better Strato singer and TT has the Stratovarius voice in those people's minds who think he was better Strato singer. Simple :) .

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:27 pm
by robocop656
Listen to HYMM TO LIFE? :poke:

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:57 am
by adrian9
this is a no brainier...TK all the way.

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:02 am
by AAAAAAAAAA
adrian9 wrote:this is a no brainier...
Then why hasn't icecar responded yet? ???

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Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:17 am
by robocop656
AAAAAAAAAA wrote:
adrian9 wrote:this is a no brainier...
Then why hasn't icecar responded yet? ???

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Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:38 am
by NeverendingAbyss
So much for a Community Relations Officer... :roll:

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:41 am
by AAAAAAAAAA
NeverendingAbyss wrote:So much for a Community Relations Officer... :roll:
More like homosexual relations police officer. :roll:

"Sir, do you have any concealed weapons?? Spread your legs, I'm going to need to pat you down!!" :lol:

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:08 pm
by Stratowarius
:x You are Detective John Kimball! :x You are a cop you IDIOT...

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:30 pm
by Stratowarius
:shock: No No! I am the culprit here...

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:46 pm
by Stratowarius 2.0
Stratowarius wrote::x You are Detective John Kimball! :x You are a cop you IDIOT...
:lol: OK I am an idiot, that don't eat candy. Idiot. Idiot. Idiot! What shall I start with, so I can increase my status in your eyes?

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:09 pm
by Stratowarius
:( Jaja! Ok! Will you at least wipe that grin of your face. :x Sometimes I screw up, yes! :( Butt your every post appears to be an reaction to mine so let us just start this over... :luv1:

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:45 pm
by ggonza43
AGAG wrote:TK is hot so I voted for him
You stole my lines :D! And yeah, I'm a boy, so what :lol:?

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:30 pm
by Stratowarius 2.0
Stratowarius wrote::( Jaja! Ok! Will you at least wipe that grin of your face. :x
But when they entered the floor,
Who stood, with a nasty grin, in the door,
Yes, it was Pekka, who had been there before.
So father ÖHubble was right,
In his protecting papafight :)

Re: Tolkki or Kotipelto?

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:07 pm
by Stratowarius
:lol: :lol: :lol: I see. :lol: It took exactly three days for the cheery-old-grandpa-facade to shatter to pieces. :lol: :lol: