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The review was VERY bad written (grammatically I mean...), but I tried to fix it as best as I could. The guy was obviously in that gig for Helloween, and I don't know how bad it really was. I mean, the band was great in México. Sure Kotipelto is not in his best shape, but the band was very secure and with a very strong performance. All, from Matias, through Jens, Lauri and Jörg played with perfection. And the fact that he says the band "lost so much with Tolkki's departure", I think just shows that the guy doesn't really know the new Stratovarius at all. That's why I don't like to compare Tolkki Strato, with Post-Tolkki Strato. Elysium is my favorite Stratovarius album ever, but that's from a musical point of view. Also, the last years with Tolkki live were MUCH worse than today, and Wacken 2007 is the stongest proof.Some asshole wrote: Stratovarius - The Strength of the Good Songs
Let's not rush things. The pumpking (Helloween...) had a very special guest to their dinner. The Finnish guys from Stratovarius came out to prove they are not outdated, and to try to forget Timo Tolkki's ghost and to keep high their very well earned prestige, collected with so many years of career. The band, under Kotipelto's lead, left a lot, and I mean A LOT to be desired, in what I thought was their lowest presentation they've ever had in our country.
It was clear that they were not the main dish, but that gave them the chance to make a more round show, to condese in 60 minutes, the best of their career, to give a compact show, and they were not able to do it. For several reasons: First, execution. There were very manifest mistakes when performing the themes, very disorganized at times. They had to start "Eagleheart" twice, since the first time it just didn't start. As a matter of fact, with one of their good themes from the new album "Elysium", Infernal Maze, offered a point of view, and potholes were there. It's just that Stratovarius's presentation was all over the place too much, and that's unforgivable for a band of their category. This is not the time, but we could argue with loosley how much they lost with Tolkki's departure, since Stratovarius today -at least on the stage- is not even the shadow of what they were 10 years ago. Now, as an excuse, we could say that Jörg Michael is comming out of a terrible disease, and not anybody can step out on stage on their instrument on such a strenous and long gig, and do it with a smile. Good for the german.
What saved their show, and made the people plased of having bought the ticket, were the songs. People was there to listen to classic themes, that have marked them, and Stratovarius has many. How not to bang our heads to "Phoenix", how not to sing "Kiss of Judas", or "Paradise". How not to get emocionated with "Forever", essential themes in the discography of any love of the style. But even having less time and with the chanse of making a round show, there was one song, "Winter Skies", a dull song that was not good on the album, and was not good live either.
Nother big responsable of the show not being of the required quality, was Kotipelto's poor performance. It's true that he excused with health motives, it' already been a long time without signing on how he has us used to. It's clear that age is heavy, and today he salvages it with a very well vocal technique, that makes some out of tune notes, and the incapability of reaching high notes, are not as bad as could be without that technique.
Anyway, as has been said, the strong part of Stratovarius were the gons, as well as Lauri Porra and Maitas Kupiainen printing a new fresh view to the band's musical propose. We'll see how this line up works when they are the main dish of a gig. Tonight, Stratovaris qualifyed with just the fair.
TheLegendaryDreamer wrote:Sumerian is probably the one who wrote that.
Thank you a lot!HinatAArcticA wrote:Let me do it:
The review was VERY bad written (grammatically I mean...), but I tried to fix it as best as I could. The guy was obviously in that gig for Helloween, and I don't know how bad it really was. I mean, the band was great in México. Sure Kotipelto is not in his best shape, but the band was very secure and with a very strong performance. All, from Matias, through Jens, Lauri and Jörg played with perfection. And the fact that he says the band "lost so much with Tolkki's departure", I think just shows that the guy doesn't really know the new Stratovarius at all. That's why I don't like to compare Tolkki Strato, with Post-Tolkki Strato. Elysium is my favorite Stratovarius album ever, but that's from a musical point of view. Also, the last years with Tolkki live were MUCH worse than today, and Wacken 2007 is the stongest proof.Some asshole wrote: Stratovarius - The Strength of the Good Songs
Let's not rush things. The pumpking (Helloween...) had a very special guest to their dinner. The Finnish guys from Stratovarius came out to prove they are not outdated, and to try to forget Timo Tolkki's ghost and to keep high their very well earned prestige, collected with so many years of career. The band, under Kotipelto's lead, left a lot, and I mean A LOT to be desired, in what I thought was their lowest presentation they've ever had in our country.
It was clear that they were not the main dish, but that gave them the chance to make a more round show, to condese in 60 minutes, the best of their career, to give a compact show, and they were not able to do it. For several reasons: First, execution. There were very manifest mistakes when performing the themes, very disorganized at times. They had to start "Eagleheart" twice, since the first time it just didn't start. As a matter of fact, with one of their good themes from the new album "Elysium", Infernal Maze, offered a point of view, and potholes were there. It's just that Stratovarius's presentation was all over the place too much, and that's unforgivable for a band of their category. This is not the time, but we could argue with loosley how much they lost with Tolkki's departure, since Stratovarius today -at least on the stage- is not even the shadow of what they were 10 years ago. Now, as an excuse, we could say that Jörg Michael is comming out of a terrible disease, and not anybody can step out on stage on their instrument on such a strenous and long gig, and do it with a smile. Good for the german.
What saved their show, and made the people plased of having bought the ticket, were the songs. People was there to listen to classic themes, that have marked them, and Stratovarius has many. How not to bang our heads to "Phoenix", how not to sing "Kiss of Judas", or "Paradise". How not to get emocionated with "Forever", essential themes in the discography of any love of the style. But even having less time and with the chanse of making a round show, there was one song, "Winter Skies", a dull song that was not good on the album, and was not good live either.
Nother big responsable of the show not being of the required quality, was Kotipelto's poor performance. It's true that he excused with health motives, it' already been a long time without signing on how he has us used to. It's clear that age is heavy, and today he salvages it with a very well vocal technique, that makes some out of tune notes, and the incapability of reaching high notes, are not as bad as could be without that technique.
Anyway, as has been said, the strong part of Stratovarius were the gons, as well as Lauri Porra and Maitas Kupiainen printing a new fresh view to the band's musical propose. We'll see how this line up works when they are the main dish of a gig. Tonight, Stratovaris qualifyed with just the fair.
I think is a very... subjective review, not that fair. The fact that he enjoyed some of the songs he mentioned, is because they obviously played them well. But well, whatever xD
To Jens:
Do you honestly feel that gig in Chile had some REAL bad technicall mistakes when playing? Because the guy writtes it as if you guys were DragonForce
A guy with a big mouth, but NO fucking ears. At all. 
TheLegendaryDreamer wrote:Sumerian is probably the one who wrote that.
) Susie wrote:"the Irish band Estratovarius"
What the f**** is happening to my colleagues in El Salvador????
How bad was the Spanish spelling and grammar?RazielSR wrote:Well, after listening the tongue twister the guy wrote...
Hey, shit happens. the set list that day was this... printed thing and then hand drawn arrow with a marker saying, why dont we play that song before this song. In some parts like some redneck trying to write like Cervantes, and in other parts just like a gangstaJensJohansson wrote:How bad was the Spanish spelling and grammar?RazielSR wrote:Well, after listening the tongue twister the guy wrote...
I think is a guy who thinks is a musician turned to news reporter in a reality show about drag queens living in new jersey.J- さә wrote:Maybe the reviewer is a Tolkkiholic or a troll.
who doesn´t know them?Susie wrote:"the Irish band Estratovarius"
damn, you saw it...!mocobhc wrote:
you forgot Lauri's belly fluff
That is just WRONG... as a reader and as a journalist that website ofends me...Beauty_has_come wrote: They couldn't get right the date of the concert, either. It was in the 19th of April, but...
Read it by yourself xD
http://www.laprensagrafica.com/componen ... /4235.html
And there are no pictures of Stratovarius in the gallery
LOL clearly, they did 0 research!!! And no Strato pics.. so, :shake: poorly made!!! Oh...! foerg wrote:who doesn´t know them?Susie wrote:"the Irish band Estratovarius"
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Estratovarius are:
Lauri McPorra: E-Bass
Matthew McKupiainen: E-Guitar
Jens McJohansson: E-Piano
George McMichael: E-Drums
Timo McKotipelto: E-Sharp
FUNNYfoerg wrote:who doesn´t know them?Susie wrote:"the Irish band Estratovarius"
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Estratovarius are:
Lauri McPorra: E-Bass
Matthew McKupiainen: E-Guitar
Jens McJohansson: E-Piano
George McMichael: E-Drums
Timo McKotipelto: E-Sharp