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Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:28 pm
by Nahu9keys
Hi, briefly, i created this topic because i have one hope... I really think that Peter Wildoer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Wildoer could be the perfect replacement of Jörg! I think he's a really nice dude, really talented and it can fit very well with the band. He can play really fast and now, with the Elysium album, i think Strato is going really progressive, and Peter will fit extremely well. Plus he's scandinavian like Lauri, Timo, Jens and Matias, so i think he is perfect for the band. So this is my humble post, i'm really excited about this!!!

I think there are a lot of people that thinks that Peter could be the right replacement, tell here what you think! CHEERS!
PS: This is my first post in this Strato Forum, if i had make any mistake posting this, please tell it to me!

Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:35 pm
by valo_666
Too much drummer for an already cadaveric band
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:37 pm
by RazielSR
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:37 am
by GAGAGO
valo_666 wrote:Too much drummer for an already cadaveric band
And what an idiot are you? Gypsy? Tartar?
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:09 pm
by Krigo
Nahu9keys wrote:with the Elysium album, i think Strato is going really progressive
Just because they have one progressive song doesn't suddenly mean that Stratovarius is going progressive.
The band will decide themselves based on experience, just because they're a good drummer doesn't necessarily mean they'll get on well with the band. There's already a thread that GAGAGO linked to discuss this so I think it's best to not have two identical threads going.

Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:21 pm
by browneyedgirl
If he plays as good as he looks...............

Awww, never mind!

Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:56 pm
by eternity_strato
For Peter Wildoer, Stratovarius stuff is kids stuff. He's ready to play some more demanding material than the Strato one. No offense, but Peter is completely amazing and would be working at 30% of his capacity, he is able to do much more complex music...
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:35 pm
by icecab21
so can jorg
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:22 pm
by thefreeone
icecab21 wrote:so can jorg
for the very first time
i agree with this shithead

Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:59 pm
by Elz
alex landenburg
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:38 am
by gnurt_gp
timo tolkki

Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:48 am
by Nahu9keys
eternity_strato wrote:For Peter Wildoer, Stratovarius stuff is kids stuff. He's ready to play some more demanding material than the Strato one. No offense, but Peter is completely amazing and would be working at 30% of his capacity, he is able to do much more complex music...
That's the point. I mean, if Peter enters in the band, i think Strato will be able to "explore" new kinds of sounds and to compose more complex music. I think that the band needs to change his "way" a little bit, and not to compose all the same kind of tunes. I find that really interesting. Come on, for sure Matias and the others have a bunch of crazy stuff on their minds that they can realize with a new drummer like Peter!! BTW i know that almost only 1 song (Elysium) sounds progressive, i didn't say that the whole album is progressive... But i have to say that Elysium is a masterpiece, and they can for sure write many other songs like that, while composing classic "Stratovarius" songs! At this point i want a real revolution in the band so i think that Peter, and many others similar drummers, aren't "too much" for Strato, they can contribute to improve the band a lot!!

Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:31 am
by Febo
eternity_strato wrote:For Peter Wildoer, Stratovarius stuff is kids stuff. He's ready to play some more demanding material than the Strato one. No offense, but Peter is completely amazing and would be working at 30% of his capacity, he is able to do much more complex music...
Well... Tolkki's stuff is kids' stuff for Matias as well

It is a matter of being in a band that tours the world constantly, a band that is evolving and a band that seems to be healthy again.
If you asked Peter about it, I'd doubt you'd hear from him something less promising than a "I'll seriously think about it". Besides, we seem to be at the gates of what I think will be the most complex Strato record to date.
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:48 am
by AAAAAAAAAA
I basically think any decent drummer can play Stratovarius material. And I'm sure an established band like Strato could also have their pick of many technical drummers.
What's 1000x more important is that this guy is not a sociopath/douchebag/egomaniac.
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:16 am
by Ilsekena
thefreeone wrote:icecab21 wrote:so can jorg
for the very first time
i agree with this shithead

Do
NOT trust Icecar! IT'S... always a trap! Huh!
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:27 am
by AAAAAAAAAA
Ilsekena wrote:thefreeone wrote:icecab21 wrote:so can jorg
for the very first time
i agree with this shithead

Do
NOT trust Icecar! IT'S... always a trap! Huh!
Its a clever ruse to lower your critical thinking skills. Huh! :nervous:
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:32 am
by Ilsekena
AAAAAAAAAA wrote:Ilsekena wrote:thefreeone wrote:icecab21 wrote:so can jorg
for the very first time
i agree with this shithead

Do
NOT trust Icecar! IT'S... always a trap! Huh!
Its a clever ruse to lower your critical thinking skills. Huh! :nervous:
PFFF! It's been equally ignoble from your side to criticize my critical thinking skills in such uncriticized incommensurability. HUH!
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:41 am
by icecab21
Of course I would think the stratovarius forum would have members that disagree with my statements such as "best wishes in your fight against cancer Jorg" or "glad to hear you have recovered jorg". it's surprising that a person would not agree, but at this forum , who knows?
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:38 pm
by HinatAArcticA
gnurt_gp wrote:timo tolkki

+1
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:33 pm
by adrian9
Elz wrote:alex landenburg
thank you captain obvious,but this is not gonna happen.
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:46 pm
by thefreeone
icecab21 wrote:Of course I would think the stratovarius forum would have members that disagree with my statements such as "best wishes in your fight against cancer Jorg" or "glad to hear you have recovered jorg". it's surprising that a person would not agree, but at this forum , who knows?
don't be stupid, we all know you understand what I meant when i said that
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:31 pm
by Jabi
gnurt_gp wrote:timo tolkki

How about that other Timo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q97B1J0ixGE&t=0m25s
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:24 am
by icecab21
why not just agree and leave it at that without going out of your way to insult?
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:54 pm
by valo_666
GAGAGO wrote:valo_666 wrote:Too much drummer for an already cadaveric band
And what an idiot are you? Gypsy? Tartar?
No, I'm just a realistic human being, thanks

Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:59 pm
by Ilsekena
valo_666 wrote:Too much drummer for an already cadaveric band
Dear Realistic Human Being, explain this to me like I'm a Complete Idiot because I don't get it

Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:44 am
by valo_666
Ilsekena wrote:valo_666 wrote:Too much drummer for an already cadaveric band
Dear Realistic Human Being, explain this to me like I'm a Complete Idiot because I don't get it

ThesaurusLegend:
Adj. 1. cadaveric - of or relating to a cadaver or corpse; "we had long anticipated his cadaverous end".
There you are
EDIT: Don't bash me for this, it is just my opinion that the current Stratovarius is an absurdity with or without a new drummer, as long as they don't have Timo Tolkki in the core

Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:54 am
by Shogakat
valo_666 is just saying that Stratovarius is no more the legendary band that had been during those golds days and that they don't deserve such an excellent drummer Peter Wildoer.
A respectable opinion, but it's just another opinion

. So far, so good.
Nevertheless I prefer this Stratovarius that the band hat we had during 2005-2007. I prefer a cadaveric band that has been recovered from a sever illness called Timo Tolkki than a death band. It's just my opinion, I hope it is respectable too

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EDIT: I hope people don't bash you, an opinion is just an opinion

Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:02 am
by valo_666
Shogakat wrote:valo_666 is just saying that Stratovarius is no more the legendary band that had been during those golds days and that they don't deserve such an excellent drummer Peter Wildoer.
A respectable opinion, but it's just another opinion

. So far, so good.
Nevertheless I prefer this Stratovarius that the band hat we had during 2005-2007. I prefer a cadaveric band that has been recovered from a sever illness called Timo Tolkki than a death band. It's just my opinion, I hope it is respectable too

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EDIT: I hope people don't bash you, an opinion is just an opinion

For sure it is. To make my statement clearer, my opinion was even harder than this in the 2005 - 2007 era. To me, Stratovarius should have split in friendly terms after Elements Pt. 2 release. Later releases under the name Stratovarius are just using it for the sake of the trademark. Easier to get gigs, easier to get to put an album out, many things easier.
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:11 am
by icecab21
the band members are making a living through he band, not sure how that makes a band dead?
the last two albums charted number 2 and 1 in finland and the band is doing international tours and getting good spots in festivals.
peter has not done anything as successful as recent stratovarius let alone past stratovarius
Re: Stratovarius New Drummer - Peter Wildoer?
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:18 am
by Shogakat
You just don't know what the future prepares to you. At that point in 2003 Tolkki could not know what happened after the Elements saga release. Being realistic, Stratovarius is no more what had been on that golden days, but still is a good band with a good future projection, which is good.
In 2009 no one would have bet for Stratovarius, and now they have more than 540.000 fans in Facebook, an active career and future plans.
Things have been done properly and well those 3 years. I don't try to convince you, but I want people notice that if they had not worked as hard as they did, if they had followed the projection line of the last years of that band, those things could not be possible. They've worked very hard those years and that is the reason why I still put my trust in them.
They have the name, the trademark "Stratovarius", and they have demonstrated that they can hold what that means.