Beyond Elysium...." Let The Discussion Begin"
Now that the band has their new and I must say, " very talented" drummer, whats next? Elysium really proved to be a great new beginning for the band. My hope is they continue to grow that epic sound again but still retain what has come to be known as the "Strato" sound. What do you guys think ?
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Elysium is still the best album of 2011 to me. Matias wrote a fucking masterpiece with the title track and I can only pray they'll release a live DVD again in the near future WITH THAT TRACK ON THE SETLIST. It's the best song they've ever written as far as I'm concerned. If Elysium was a hint of what's to come, I'm just going to sdhfbhsjdbhakjjhg
Seriously, I really hope the next album sounds like Elysium. Move the Mountain was the perfect ballad, Darkest Hours a great single, Elysium an incredible 18 minutes of music (those last 6 minutes... oh my GOD), and some amazing throwback tracks to the speedy glory days of the band, like Event Horizon.
Bring it on. I'm sure Rolf can handle anything these guys throw at him and I hope he contributes a lot, too. Lauri, Matias, Jens, and Timo make a FANTASTIC songwriting team and having the new guy join and pitch in ideas would be awesome.
Seriously, I really hope the next album sounds like Elysium. Move the Mountain was the perfect ballad, Darkest Hours a great single, Elysium an incredible 18 minutes of music (those last 6 minutes... oh my GOD), and some amazing throwback tracks to the speedy glory days of the band, like Event Horizon.
Bring it on. I'm sure Rolf can handle anything these guys throw at him and I hope he contributes a lot, too. Lauri, Matias, Jens, and Timo make a FANTASTIC songwriting team and having the new guy join and pitch in ideas would be awesome.
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I think elysium was good, things are getting better for the band, Hope they do more power metal , straigh foward things, a la hunting high and low,eagleheart and stuff, that kind of material was missing in the last two records in order to bring more "prog-like" riffs, that really doesnt make any sense in this context.
but I should also say that chances are high they would come up with something even more prog. you know, "new drummer"
but I should also say that chances are high they would come up with something even more prog. you know, "new drummer"
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More Lauri songs for sure!!!....his fast tunes are awesome. I believe that it will be an evolution of Elysium, I think the only thing that is missing from my point of view, is that huge melodic lines that strato used to have. Lauri for me is the key to reach that...Lifetime in a moment, Forever is today. Less Kotipelto songs who are more like "not-so good" songs, His songs are quiet ok, but extremely far from fenomenal, also Jens has to put his songs on fire, metal to the pedal!!, the last two albums has to many mid-tempo moments. Is time to put the new kid to fucking work
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For me, more prog would be appreciated. As we have talked a lot of times, this band is now a prog-power metal band, not just power metal. They are evolving a lot and it is the only way to continue creating NEW music and do not copy/paste the past.
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I enjoyed Elysium a lot. I agree that Strato has grown into a prog-power metal band, which IMO is a good thing.
However, looking to the past isnt always a bad thing. I feel more higher tempo power songs are in order. Im not saying the whole album of course, but songs like Event Horizon were always a very refreshing addition.
I really am looking forward to their next album, the signature Strato sound is a modern miracle. Continually sounding new without any hint of monotony, whilst still retaining that unique presence.
One of the many reason why the boys are my favourite band of all time.
However, looking to the past isnt always a bad thing. I feel more higher tempo power songs are in order. Im not saying the whole album of course, but songs like Event Horizon were always a very refreshing addition.
I really am looking forward to their next album, the signature Strato sound is a modern miracle. Continually sounding new without any hint of monotony, whilst still retaining that unique presence.
One of the many reason why the boys are my favourite band of all time.
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I'd love more Prog stuff
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about koti songs,this is a current matter not only recently, I think he writes in a different direction of stratovarius, Im guess he got his songs done and then those are translated into strato-language, something gets missing in the middle and you get half hearted or..ok songs.Verdades Parias wrote:Less Kotipelto songs who are more like "not-so good" songs, His songs are quiet ok, but extremely far from fenomenal,
im just guessin over here,but that could be a logical explanation.
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I loved the obvious differences and perspectives Polaris offered in contrast to the earlier work, and the progression Elysium took in songwriting matters and shaping an actual album despite the very different kinds of songs in it. It's going to be interesting enough to see if they manage to keep the balance between the Lauri/Matias proggy direction - to which Rolf will add his lot, I guess - and the straightforward power metal uptempo pieces Strato mainly got its name for. I expect the next albums to underline the different songwriting styles of them all even more - which at the same time will make it harder for them to shape a consistent album, so I'm quite curious what they're gonna do about it More prog will eventually divide the fans into lovers and haters... but hey, I guess the band is used to that So, as long as they don't try to sound like 15 years ago, they won't be able to disappoint me.
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Totally agree!!!adrian9 wrote:about koti songs,this is a current matter not only recently, I think he writes in a different direction of stratovarius, Im guess he got his songs done and then those are translated into strato-language, something gets missing in the middle and you get half hearted or..ok songs.Verdades Parias wrote:Less Kotipelto songs who are more like "not-so good" songs, His songs are quiet ok, but extremely far from fenomenal,
im just guessin over here,but that could be a logical explanation.
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I think the new direction is awesome and I hope they continue in this direction.
I'll probably get slammed for this opinion but I think they should keep moving forward, yes of course keep in key elements which make them Stratovarius but ultimately keep trying new things with each album.
I too would hate for them to get monotonous.
I'll probably get slammed for this opinion but I think they should keep moving forward, yes of course keep in key elements which make them Stratovarius but ultimately keep trying new things with each album.
I too would hate for them to get monotonous.
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Can't agree more
The band should make some different and challenging songs that completely new to our ears.
The band should make some different and challenging songs that completely new to our ears.
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Too early. Come back in December.
They will compose stuff, but with the DVD releasing just about now, I don't think they have any real reason to show anything other than live shows for the rest of the year.
They will compose stuff, but with the DVD releasing just about now, I don't think they have any real reason to show anything other than live shows for the rest of the year.
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i expect a double album, one with have a 66 minute song, the other will have a 6 minute song.
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Icecab:like a concept album maybe?
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for a concept album , perhaps they could do it, perhaps they could do a sideproject with the members and put out something like that. i really just feel they should put out what they feel they ought to put out and then ill figure out if i like it or not. the main think i like about stratovarius is usually the combination of melody, rhythmic energy, and lyrics. i want them to show what they value, not anything out of obligation to go one way or another.
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A concept album but not that cheesy as Symphony X
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That's subjective and would depend on your definition of cheesy.
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Dear Icebar and dear Hippo,
Was this topic really THAT important?That's subjective.
Do they have the obligation to continue playing with their hands? That's subjective. They can always use their feet.
Do they have to release an album completely new to your ears? That's subjective. What if they release an album completely new to your knee?
A lot of things to discuss.
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Was this topic really THAT important?That's subjective.
Do they have the obligation to continue playing with their hands? That's subjective. They can always use their feet.
Do they have to release an album completely new to your ears? That's subjective. What if they release an album completely new to your knee?
A lot of things to discuss.
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I really like the kinda Symphony X-direction they're taking, while sticking to the power metal roots. I hope it stays this way!
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I actually prefer the latest album of Symphony X because of the modern approach.
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My favorite songs from the last 2 albums are Elysium, Move the Mountain, Darkest Hours, Deep Unknown & Winter Skies...so I want to hear more from Jens and Matias. :music:
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I personally hope the next album does more of what they did with Elysium. The overall power metal sound but with a progressive edge to it.
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You hope the album does what THEY did with Elysium?I personally hope the next album does more of what they did with Elysium
Why did the band do it last time, but this time its the albums responsibility?
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Inanimate objects are sometimes interesting.I have some inanimate friends.
For example, I have a printer that sometimes speaks to me and we have long conversations regarding how many polar bears can a finnish house contain.
The other day, I dranks some beers with my paddle and then I went to the cinema with my wardrobe.
Maybe some people in the forum is wanting to see some polycarbonate friend more involved in the new Stratovarius album.
For example, I have a printer that sometimes speaks to me and we have long conversations regarding how many polar bears can a finnish house contain.
The other day, I dranks some beers with my paddle and then I went to the cinema with my wardrobe.
Maybe some people in the forum is wanting to see some polycarbonate friend more involved in the new Stratovarius album.
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Does producing stuff on computers count? Because if that's the case then your polycarbonate friends already play a vital role in Stratovarius albums!HoldenCaulfield wrote: Maybe some people in the forum is wanting to see some polycarbonate friend more involved in the new Stratovarius album.
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Dear Neon, yes, producing stuff on computers count. I have some Mbs and Kbs friends wanting to appear in the new album. There's an old friend (codename TeraT) that will appear in the extended edition.NeonVomit wrote:Does producing stuff on computers count? Because if that's the case then your polycarbonate friends already play a vital role in Stratovarius albums!HoldenCaulfield wrote: Maybe some people in the forum is wanting to see some polycarbonate friend more involved in the new Stratovarius album.
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Your questions have been answered, it would appear.HoldenCaulfield wrote:Dear Neon, yes, producing stuff on computers count. I have some Mbs and Kbs friends wanting to appear in the new album. There's an old friend (codename TeraT) that will appear in the extended edition.NeonVomit wrote:Does producing stuff on computers count? Because if that's the case then your polycarbonate friends already play a vital role in Stratovarius albums!HoldenCaulfield wrote: Maybe some people in the forum is wanting to see some polycarbonate friend more involved in the new Stratovarius album.
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Dear Neon,NeonVomit wrote:Your questions have been answered, it would appear.HoldenCaulfield wrote:Dear Neon, yes, producing stuff on computers count. I have some Mbs and Kbs friends wanting to appear in the new album. There's an old friend (codename TeraT) that will appear in the extended edition.NeonVomit wrote:Does producing stuff on computers count? Because if that's the case then your polycarbonate friends already play a vital role in Stratovarius albums!HoldenCaulfield wrote: Maybe some people in the forum is wanting to see some polycarbonate friend more involved in the new Stratovarius album.
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We all have questions. We just don't ever know what they are until the answers come along.HoldenCaulfield wrote:Dear Neon,NeonVomit wrote:Your questions have been answered, it would appear.HoldenCaulfield wrote:Dear Neon, yes, producing stuff on computers count. I have some Mbs and Kbs friends wanting to appear in the new album. There's an old friend (codename TeraT) that will appear in the extended edition.NeonVomit wrote:Does producing stuff on computers count? Because if that's the case then your polycarbonate friends already play a vital role in Stratovarius albums!HoldenCaulfield wrote: Maybe some people in the forum is wanting to see some polycarbonate friend more involved in the new Stratovarius album.
I had no questions.
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