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Re: timo tolkki

Post by adrian9 » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:55 pm

rikkertje wrote:How people can say she's a good singer is beyond me. That chorus is awful.
:lol: maybe if she signs something that benefits from her range would be better.
this song is the worst of the 3 samples.
I wonder if this girl understands that if this record doesnt work/sales the carreer is over and is gonna be twice as hard to make the label take another chance after a proven failure
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Re: timo tolkki

Post by Rage1979 » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:40 pm

Have been listening to the entire album now and it is not good :(

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Post by SentineLEX » Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:52 pm

Is the production at least decent? I don't know what Tolkki was thinking the way he did Avalon II...

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Post by adrian9 » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:50 pm

SentineLEX wrote:Is the production at least decent? I don't know what Tolkki was thinking the way he did Avalon II...
saving money? is super expensive to do a high production album, maybe he rushed a bit on avalon II
you can expect to pay a minimun of 20000$ for a high end album.
I dont think TT has that spare change as for today.
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Re: timo tolkki

Post by fuck » Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:14 pm

Flavio will mix and master your album for free! :lol:

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Post by SentineLEX » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:48 am

adrian9 wrote:
SentineLEX wrote:Is the production at least decent? I don't know what Tolkki was thinking the way he did Avalon II...
saving money? is super expensive to do a high production album, maybe he rushed a bit on avalon II
you can expect to pay a minimun of 20000$ for a high end album.
I dont think TT has that spare change as for today.
Well if I was tight on money, I'd rather save money in the casting department, call up some of the old guys who would charge less. Maybe like Tuomo and Antti, they haven't been doing much. How busy has Gus Monsanto been lately?

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Post by SentineLEX » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:49 am

fuck wrote:Flavio will mix and master your album for free! :lol:
I think TT got pissed off and banned him from the Avalon forum once lmao

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Post by Southern_Cross » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:03 am

SentineLEX wrote:
fuck wrote:Flavio will mix and master your album for free! :lol:
I think TT got pissed off and banned him from the Avalon forum once lmao
Yep, that did happen. I don't think TT ever unblocked him either. Is that forum even still up?

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Post by Southern_Cross » Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:11 pm

jam wrote:Hahaha the coward dele all.

Such manly metalguy you are!!!

Ypurself make puke, drunk, coward and retart fuck.

Try to suicide you and do a humanístic, charity, fucking idiot, ball of shame with micro penis
Damn son 0_o
Although I have to agree, TT is pretty far downhill from where he used to be.

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Post by fuck » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:29 am

There was penis and balls I posted that was deleted. Maybe he's talking about that. :lol:

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Post by Southern_Cross » Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:35 am

fuck wrote:There was penis and balls I posted that was deleted. Maybe he's talking about that. :lol:
...could be that too

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Post by Southern_Cross » Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:01 pm

jam wrote:High Music:

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Micro penis coward dunked song:

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Timo Tolkki is his own engineer and yourself are 4 idiots that cant do nothing that sound ok,

Timo Tolkki is better engineer and you all can't do a shit
Funny to see you suddenly praising Tolkki. You used to say he was absolute shit.
I won't argue that he is a better musician and engineer than I am though, that is true. I don't know how to engineer anything and while I enjoying making my own music, I'm not very good at it yet.

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Post by Southern_Cross » Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:07 pm

jam wrote:High Music:

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Micro penis coward dunked song:

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Timo Tolkki is his own engineer and yourself are 4 idiots that cant do nothing that sound ok,
Again: it's very ironic to see you suddenly praising Tolkki.
Again, I'm not going to argue with you. Tolkki knows about engineering that stuff, I don't. He's a professional musician (although his quality is questionable nowadays) and I'm not.

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Re: timo tolkki

Post by jam » Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:05 pm

the question is why yourself, and all the persons of all this silly forum, that was lost long time ago, destroy people for fun, included when they can't log on?

and sure, yourself don't know nothing, and your country sucks too

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Post by fuck » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:51 am

My ass sounds better than chaos magic.

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Post by Southern_Cross » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:25 am

jam wrote:the question is why yourself, and all the persons of all this silly forum, that was lost long time ago, destroy people for fun, included when they can't log on?

and sure, yourself don't know nothing, and your country sucks too
Haha, you're right that my country sucks. America isn't the greatest of places to be :P

I don't destroy anyone, I'm pretty neutral about most everything. I don't really bother chasing anyone on this forum in particular, and I don't know whether or not they're able to log on, and frankly I don't really care.

And if the forum is so silly, then just leave.

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Post by Southern_Cross » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:26 am

fuck wrote:My ass sounds better than chaos magic.
Prove it

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Post by SentineLEX » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:10 am

Southern_Cross wrote:
jam wrote:the question is why yourself, and all the persons of all this silly forum, that was lost long time ago, destroy people for fun, included when they can't log on?

and sure, yourself don't know nothing, and your country sucks too
Haha, you're right that my country sucks. America isn't the greatest of places to be :P

I don't destroy anyone, I'm pretty neutral about most everything. I don't really bother chasing anyone on this forum in particular, and I don't know whether or not they're able to log on, and frankly I don't really care.

And if the forum is so silly, then just leave.
USA #1

get out

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Post by Southern_Cross » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:17 am

SentineLEX wrote:
Southern_Cross wrote:
jam wrote:the question is why yourself, and all the persons of all this silly forum, that was lost long time ago, destroy people for fun, included when they can't log on?

and sure, yourself don't know nothing, and your country sucks too
Haha, you're right that my country sucks. America isn't the greatest of places to be :P

I don't destroy anyone, I'm pretty neutral about most everything. I don't really bother chasing anyone on this forum in particular, and I don't know whether or not they're able to log on, and frankly I don't really care.

And if the forum is so silly, then just leave.
USA #1

get out
No :P :P
Well USA is a lot better than some places but could stand to be better, I guess that's more of what I meant. I don't hate it but I don't love it.

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Post by fuck » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:04 am

Southern_Cross wrote:
fuck wrote:My ass sounds better than chaos magic.
Prove it
If you insist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk-5RVMerfI

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fuck wrote:
Southern_Cross wrote:
fuck wrote:My ass sounds better than chaos magic.
Prove it
If you insist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk-5RVMerfI
Well I'm convinced

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Image

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Post by Southern_Cross » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:24 am

fuck wrote:Image
More or less what my face looks like right now, without the facial hair.

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Post by Rage1979 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:03 pm

SentineLEX wrote:Is the production at least decent? I don't know what Tolkki was thinking the way he did Avalon II...
The production is better but many of the songs are old rippoffs of his own! You have Heard it all Before many times.

Avalon II is a result of lack of time.

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Post by rikkertje » Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:35 am

"I know that many of you have been wondering where I have disappeared. The reason is that for 1,5 years I have been seriously ill. Now I start feeling a bit better. I hope that during upcoming autumn I can start planning the final 3rd part of my Avalon saga. Thanks for your support. Timo". - Timo Tolkki, Facebook, August 20, 2015

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Post by adrian9 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:14 pm

rikkertje wrote:"I know that many of you have been wondering where I have disappeared. The reason is that for 1,5 years I have been seriously ill. Now I start feeling a bit better. I hope that during upcoming autumn I can start planning the final 3rd part of my Avalon saga. Thanks for your support. Timo". - Timo Tolkki, Facebook, August 20, 2015
damn! :shock:
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Post by fuck » Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:42 am

Chronic masturbation syndrome. Takes years off anybody's life.

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Post by SentineLEX » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:27 am

rikkertje wrote:"I know that many of you have been wondering where I have disappeared. The reason is that for 1,5 years I have been seriously ill. Now I start feeling a bit better. I hope that during upcoming autumn I can start planning the final 3rd part of my Avalon saga. Thanks for your support. Timo". - Timo Tolkki, Facebook, August 20, 2015
Glad he's going to finnish it. The third RR album was by far the best, maybe this will be the same!

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Post by SentineLEX » Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:10 pm

Listening to this album now. It's actually not too too bad. Caterina Nix has a nice voice and the production is flawless.

Both singles would sound amazing if the drums were doubled. It's not going to interfere with the poppiness of the sound at all, you can see other groups do it all the time - Within Temptation uses it all the time, and hell, Stratovarius's own Deep Unknown shows how you can make a fast pop song.

Timo does try to mix up the sound a bit, but he's going about it the wrong way. He's always been a bit weak in his transitions - hell, even Holy Light just kinda stops about 3 minutes in making you wonder why the song isn't over yet. He'll get it right once in a while and then you'll get Dreamspace or Fantasia. You'll start up a song, first 10 seconds "this is great", but then it'll go completely to the left and won't recover until the chorus comes in or something.

But what it's really lacking is variety. Every song has nearly the same fake chorus, the same synths, the same sounding guitar backing. I got bored six songs in and normally I have the patience of a saint with these kinds of things. The lyrics don't stand out to me, the instrumentals don't stand out to me, nothing except Nix's voice really grabs my attention.

"Point of No Return" is a sexy song though. Really great way to close out the album.

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Re: timo tolkki

Post by fuck » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:27 pm

Hello friends. Chaos magic is very very bad. :)

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