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Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:32 am
by tanis573
I'm gonna have to say Celestial Dream.
This has got to be the cheesiest line ever:
Where did all this come from?
The galaxies, the moon the stars, oh, I don't know
I really want to know what is the meaning of evolution
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:48 am
by HvyMtlClickWitch
Eagleheart gets my vote. yeah, i know everyone loves it, but...come on. 'heart of an eagle, he flies through the rainbow'?? who flippin' cares??
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:24 pm
by Bryant
HvyMtlClickWitch wrote:Eagleheart gets my vote. yeah, i know everyone loves it, but...come on. 'heart of an eagle, he flies through the rainbow'?? who flippin' cares??
Allright, that made my laugh.
Don`t know, if I understand "cheesy" right, but I don`t think that Strato has any really cheesy songs.
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:13 pm
by MaFiaBoY
Bryant wrote:HvyMtlClickWitch wrote:Don`t know, if I understand "cheesy" right, but I don`t think that Strato has any really cheesy songs.
Yeah right, what does "cheesy" means ?
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:40 pm
by Twilight Legionnaire
HvyMtlClickWitch wrote:Eagleheart gets my vote. yeah, i know everyone loves it, but...come on. 'heart of an eagle, he flies through the rainbow'?? who flippin' cares??
Finally someone who agrees with me about that song.
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:51 pm
by k-a-
I just dont like Twilight Symphonie's beginning...
it just annoys me to the nerves
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:04 pm
by shaz
Ehm.. I'd go for Fantasia, and the following line:
"How would it be? A world without hate
Without heaven, without hell
No wars, no arms, no religion, no God
Just your own truth."
I dunno.. I mean, I think that in this one, the cheesiness comes from the impossibility of such a world. I like the song though. Especially the "heavier" part.
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:30 pm
by Mormegil
Fantasia, Liberty, Freedom, Celestial Dreams...
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:46 pm
by loztdignity
yea lol Fantasia gets my vote too...its just so naive...and childish, the lyrics that is..music and singing is cool thuogh.
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:02 pm
by browneyedgirl
I think CHEESY means: cheap, fake, contrived. I guess, ideas that we know do not actually exist in real world.
Some of the songs on E1&2 were like this, but the music&compositions themselves were good.
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:02 pm
by Neorave
The Kiss of Judas...yeah...um...WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:30 pm
by MaFiaBoY
browneyedgirl wrote:I think CHEESY means: cheap, fake, contrived. I guess, ideas that we know do not actually exist in real world.
Some of the songs on E1&2 were like this, but the music&compositions themselves were good.
Oh c'mon it's not because something can't exist in real world isn't always bad, fairytales ans such are sometimes very good.
Maybe I'd say Before The Winter then, such love you only see in bad romance movies
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:27 pm
by HvyMtlClickWitch
browneyedgirl wrote:I think CHEESY means: cheap, fake, contrived. I guess, ideas that we know do not actually exist in real world.
Oh come on!! If you say that, you're implying that Manowar is cheesy...and Manowar is SO not cheesy!!
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:00 pm
by browneyedgirl
HvyMtlClickWitch wrote:browneyedgirl wrote:I think CHEESY means: cheap, fake, contrived. I guess, ideas that we know do not actually exist in real world.
Oh come on!! If you say that, you're implying that Manowar is cheesy...and Manowar is SO not cheesy!!
What about that group Homer Simpson likes? I can't think of their name----they started out a fake parody, and became a hit!
SPINAL TAP--YES! That is their name!!!:D
But, back on topic---Full Moon by Strato is the utmost in weirdo cheese....:yuk:
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:04 pm
by MaFiaBoY
browneyedgirl wrote:[But, back on topic---Full Moon by Strato is the utmost in weirdo cheese....:yuk:
Along with Thin Ice. This completely shatters (:D) Dreamspace-album imo. Another I can't stand is Freedom, it's just feelingless, as is Glory Of The World.
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:57 pm
by bmaires
Well i realy don't understand the meening of cheesi, but if it is what browneyedgirl says, Rhapsody and Gamma-Ray don´t have any music without being cheesi...........
But if is just a music not well done i will say the music Bloodstone.
"God upon the sea Danger, and Abyss Bestowed,
But He also made on it, The Sky to be Shown...".
"Deus, ao mar, o perigo e o abismo deu,
Mas foi nele que espelhou o céu..."
- Fernando Pessoa.
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:31 pm
by Fireblade
The thing that I love most about Strato is their happy songs. OTOH, I love all the weird darker ones too.
Is it my imagination, or is it that when a label chooses a single, they pick one of the less heavy/powerful and most happy ones on the whole album?
eg Eagleheart (I like it, but I think it was not the best choice of a comeback song after the break)
Victoria's Secret - that song is SO insipid IMO, Sonata Arctica have done so much better.
Nemo from Once... eh, what?
Or do they pick the ones that don't offend the gentle ears of the pop-fan radio listeneners? Pah.
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 3:23 am
by Veripalttu
shaz wrote:Ehm.. I'd go for Fantasia, and the following line:
"How would it be? A world without hate
Without heaven, without hell
No wars, no arms, no religion, no God
Just your own truth."
I dunno.. I mean, I think that in this one, the cheesiness comes from the impossibility of such a world. I like the song though. Especially the "heavier" part.
Just the thought of such a world makes me feel good.
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 7:38 am
by HvyMtlClickWitch
browneyedgirl wrote:What about that group Homer Simpson likes? I can't think of their name----they started out a fake parody, and became a hit!
SPINAL TAP--YES! That is their name!!!:D
Are you sure it is Spinal Tap and not GWAR? Because that description also fits GWAR.....
...Not that they belong on a thread about cheesy metal or anything....
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:32 pm
by A_Llama
Fantasia
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:50 am
by Beast_Pete
HvyMtlClickWitch wrote:Eagleheart gets my vote. yeah, i know everyone loves it, but...come on. 'heart of an eagle, he flies through the rainbow'?? who flippin' cares??
Well, mine is Eagleheart as well.
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 11:57 am
by Beast_Pete
bmaires wrote:Well i realy don't understand the meening of cheesi, but if it is what browneyedgirl says, Rhapsody and Gamma-Ray don´t have any music without being cheesi...........
Well, it's true. I translated cheesy with the help of a dictionary, and yes, it means that. Arty, corny, hokum are synonyms to cheesy. But Rhapsody is a good declaration for cheesy as well.
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:27 am
by GoodMike86
the song fantasia, while some thing it is cheesy, did anyone realize that it is about the place fantasia in the movie "the never ending story" in the middle of the song you hear a small child say "fantasia can arise in you", that is the voice of the emperess in the movie. i personally think it is a GREAT song....powerful.
i personally cannot think of a song that is cheesy, they all have such a meaning to them.
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:20 am
by popop
i think it's SOS
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 7:31 am
by HvyMtlClickWitch
GoodMike86 wrote:the song fantasia, while some thing it is cheesy, did anyone realize that it is about the place fantasia in the movie "the never ending story" in the middle of the song you hear a small child say "fantasia can arise in you", that is the voice of the emperess in the movie.
I recently saw that movie for the first time. I'm really trying hard to pretend i hadn't. That's the most terrible movie ever. :yuk: I spent most of the movie in denial about the Stratosong, but when i heard the *cough* 'empress' say that line, my life came crashing down. I really liked Fantasia a lot more when (in my mind) it wasn't attached to that godawful movie.
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:52 am
by GoodMike86
HvyMtlClickWitch wrote:GoodMike86 wrote:the song fantasia, while some thing it is cheesy, did anyone realize that it is about the place fantasia in the movie "the never ending story" in the middle of the song you hear a small child say "fantasia can arise in you", that is the voice of the emperess in the movie.
I recently saw that movie for the first time. I'm really trying hard to pretend i hadn't. That's the most terrible movie ever. :yuk: I spent most of the movie in denial about the Stratosong, but when i heard the *cough* 'empress' say that line, my life came crashing down. I really liked Fantasia a lot more when (in my mind) it wasn't attached to that godawful movie.
although i do admit the movie is not that great...the point of the song (so i believe) is that there is a place, everyone has it, where its just theirs...everyone has their own fantasia...no problems...everyone is getting along. its the exact oposite of the world we live in. instead of wars, the borders of hate are gone. i personally think this song is so powerful. it is actually one of my favorites
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:11 am
by MaFiaBoY
Fireblade wrote:Victoria's Secret - that song is SO insipid IMO, Sonata Arctica have done so much better.
Yeah but it has such a wonderful keys solo, Jens' best solo ever imo.
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:31 am
by Latuman
Eagleheart is a good guess. I guess there are lots more, but I dont care to think what.
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 5:31 pm
by Beast_Pete
MaFiaBoY wrote:Yeah but it has such a wonderful keys solo, Jens' best solo ever imo.
The Cage is better imho. And it's a "Jens song" as well.
Re: Cheesiest Stratovarius song?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 5:34 pm
by MaFiaBoY
Beast_Pete wrote:MaFiaBoY wrote:Yeah but it has such a wonderful keys solo, Jens' best solo ever imo.
The Cage is better imho. And it's a "Jens song" as well.
Yeah, this one is great too and the song itself is way better than Victoiria's Secret but I still prefer the secnd one's solo.