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Something fishy going on...

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:39 am
by MAJINDIEGO
...i don't know...call me a jerk, but my heart didn't palpitate that much once i've seen the reunion took place...i'm not saying they shouldn't have been together anymore...i just wanted to hear strato back with Tolkki singing...or maybe another vocalist...just for an album....i might be selfish...but all events that followed the split-up seem kind of weird...i don't feel enough confidence...maybe that's because i've seen some nasty shit in my life and got trouble trusting people...i didn't find the "peace" like the others here...to me this story is not over (or yet never even came to exist)
:shock:
i might be making a fool out of myself...but after this Hitler song...damn folks...i just don't know...
Is anyone feeling a little confused and troubleminded?

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:45 am
by khamael
majindiego dont say that you would hear another vocalist, joke or not....this thing is taboo...sssssshhhttt. 8)

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:01 am
by Reroute2Remain
The hitler news shows they are working on the new album anyways!

I wonder when it could be finished?

I think without Timo Kotipelto there isn't no point to continue the band. Sure Miss K is great, and she´s cute and all that but replacing Koti and with her to join Strato was a bad mistake, she ddint fit the band.

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:16 am
by Twilight Legionnaire
In my opinion, this Hitler song (and, don't forget, all we know about it is RUMOURS. No lyrics, no demos, no nothing) is a big step for Stratovarius and Timo's lyric-writing. And why? If anyone feared that this reunion was "arranged", and didn't truly gather consensus among the band-members, this controversial song is a clear example that Timo is not afraid of "shocking" people, and definately not afraid of "shocking" the record companies. He writes what he feels like writing, and that's something only a true songwriter, who really enjoys what he does apart from all the business, can do. :)

Just my two cents..

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:45 am
by browneyedgirl
Just go with the flow, MAJINDIEGO--Just go with the flow......;)

Enjoy it as it comes....:D

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 5:39 am
by Zeppelin
wouff

I feel noob to repost here :D

I'm so happy to learn about Stratovarius future !

Not that I like their lives performance ( they are not good live... scuse me but prefer Metal-Trash for live performances )

I really like Strato for studio-orchestral recording :D

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:37 am
by TimoTolkki
I can for sure understand that many people have very contradicted feelings towards Stratovarius at the moment.
But the fact is that we are in the studio recording a new album and we are all very happy and excited about how things are going.
Everything flows smoothly and good things are happening every single day.
I don´t want to let the cat out of the bag yet, but let me just say this:
Many people will be completely surprised when they hear the album.

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:41 pm
by khamael
You rock Big Guy! Glad to listen that everything is going smoothly...

But when you say that a lot of people will be surprised by the new album, you make me too curious! I cant wait no longer...argh!

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:51 pm
by MaFiaBoY
TimoTolkki wrote:Many people will be completely surprised when they hear the album.
Many people were suprised there was a new album at all :D Anyway you made me curious too. How could one survive waiting for every album ?

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:13 pm
by browneyedgirl
I am glad TT can here&cleared up lots of things for us.

Yes, now I am curious also! I hope its not TOO big a departure from their usual songs&lyrics, but we shall see! :D

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:41 pm
by Twilight Legionnaire
TimoTolkki wrote:I can for sure understand that many people have very contradicted feelings towards Stratovarius at the moment.
But the fact is that we are in the studio recording a new album and we are all very happy and excited about how things are going.
Everything flows smoothly and good things are happening every single day.
I don´t want to let the cat out of the bag yet, but let me just say this:
Many people will be completely surprised when they hear the album.
You're killing me!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I want iiiiiiiit!!




*slaps himself* :twak: Thou shalt be patient, Legionnaire.. thou shall wait and be patient :D

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:04 pm
by Beast_Pete
(1320+12)

Maybe we can hear some songs from Jörg and/or Jari? :roll:

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:48 am
by browneyedgirl
Beast_Pete wrote:(1320+12)

Maybe we can hear some songs from Jörg and/or Jari? :roll:

Why not? :?
I'm sure they have feelings to express lyricly, in a song!
Maybe Heidi can help....;)
I'm serious!

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:31 am
by Wanderer
It would be nice to hear a song written by Agent Jorg 8) Jens have shown us that he is a talent songwriter. So it would be fair to let the others try also. I fell in love with Keep the flame...

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:30 pm
by Beast_Pete
(1331+12)
browneyedgirl wrote:I'm serious!
I was serious as well.

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:10 am
by Holy Light
Shred Timo!!! Shred!!! Jens Shred too!!!

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:07 am
by TimoTolkki
Wanderer wrote:It would be nice to hear a song written by Agent Jorg 8) Jens have shown us that he is a talent songwriter. So it would be fair to let the others try also. I fell in love with Keep the flame...
Song from Jörg. Hmm are you sure that´s a good idea?
I´ll ask him if he has something on the store.
But it´s getting late for this record. Perhaps the next one!

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:51 am
by Wanderer
Well maby it isn't a good idea, my point was that you'd give him a chance to "try his wings". There's no rush with that. Next album, great but I really won't be depressed if Jörg hasn't got anything on the store. :D Btw Timo... Are you guys releasing any notes someday?

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:04 pm
by Paulo
I'm just really happy that they got back together.

I went to wacken 2003 but didn't see them because I hadn't heard of them and went to see Darkane instead, who I had heard of (which was the best choice at the time). I heard a coup,e of songs from a distance and remember thinking they would have been good. The same happened at Wacken 2004. Me and my mate wanted to see Brainstorm and Kotipelto were on the small stage right afterwards. He'd heard a song or two (I'd not heard of it, and we still had no idea about Stratovarius), but everyone else had gone to town so we decided not to and went to find them.

Then, in a recordstore in Germany the day after the festival, my brother buys a copy of the phenominal Elements part 1 and it absolutely blows me away. Straight away I'm regretting not seeing them when I had the chance, especially when I learn that I'd opted out of seeing the lead singer's side project too. :?

From there they become my favourite band, but WTF? I go on the website and learn that they've split! Now I am absolutely gutted that I opted not to see them for the one oprtunity I had! :cry:

But now they are back together, writing new material and touring, I really am flying! Cheers you guys you are legends!

They'll probably do that really really irritating thing that bands do on World tours though, where they only play 1 UK date. And that's in ****ing London! I mean, for God's sake! If they could do somewhere easier to get to like Manchester as well.... well I'd probably end up going to see them twice actually. Just like we do whenever the Haunted come to England.

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:14 pm
by NeonVomit
TimoTolkki wrote:
Wanderer wrote:It would be nice to hear a song written by Agent Jorg 8) Jens have shown us that he is a talent songwriter. So it would be fair to let the others try also. I fell in love with Keep the flame...
Song from Jörg. Hmm are you sure that´s a good idea?
I´ll ask him if he has something on the store.
But it´s getting late for this record. Perhaps the next one!
Hey, if Nicko from Iron Maiden can write songs, why not Jorg? :D
But yeah, most drummers are quite happy to bash their kit... :D

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:17 pm
by Twilight Legionnaire
Paulo wrote:I'm just really happy that they got back together.

I went to wacken 2003 but didn't see them because I hadn't heard of them and went to see Darkane instead, who I had heard of (which was the best choice at the time). I heard a coup,e of songs from a distance and remember thinking they would have been good. The same happened at Wacken 2004. Me and my mate wanted to see Brainstorm and Kotipelto were on the small stage right afterwards. He'd heard a song or two (I'd not heard of it, and we still had no idea about Stratovarius), but everyone else had gone to town so we decided not to and went to find them.

Then, in a recordstore in Germany the day after the festival, my brother buys a copy of the phenominal Elements part 1 and it absolutely blows me away. Straight away I'm regretting not seeing them when I had the chance, especially when I learn that I'd opted out of seeing the lead singer's side project too. :?

From there they become my favourite band, but WTF? I go on the website and learn that they've split! Now I am absolutely gutted that I opted not to see them for the one oprtunity I had! :cry:

But now they are back together, writing new material and touring, I really am flying! Cheers you guys you are legends!

They'll probably do that really really irritating thing that bands do on World tours though, where they only play 1 UK date. And that's in ****ing London! I mean, for God's sake! If they could do somewhere easier to get to like Manchester as well.... well I'd probably end up going to see them twice actually. Just like we do whenever the Haunted come to England.
I'll already be extremely happy if they come to Portugal, even if they don't come to Lisbon :mrgreen:

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:27 am
by LiimaStratoTainen
MAJINDIEGO wrote:...i don't know...call me a jerk, but my heart didn't palpitate that much once i've seen the reunion took place...i'm not saying they shouldn't have been together anymore...i just wanted to hear strato back with Tolkki singing...or maybe another vocalist...just for an album....i might be selfish...but all events that followed the split-up seem kind of weird...i don't feel enough confidence...maybe that's because i've seen some nasty shit in my life and got trouble trusting people...i didn't find the "peace" like the others here...to me this story is not over (or yet never even came to exist)
:shock:
i might be making a fool out of myself...but after this Hitler song...damn folks...i just don't know...
Is anyone feeling a little confused and troubleminded?
I was feeling troubled about it when I first heard. Because I thought to myself. "Maybe it's just Stratovarius (LONG LIVE THE KINGS!!)' TIME to be over" But then I realized that that would probably ruin the lives of the members of the band. Maybe it was good that all this shit happend so that they can be a stonger band? And usually, after problems like this bands put out a really good "comeback album" because they have something to prove.
What would the world be like with out Stratovarius (LLTK!!!)?!!!? No world I want to live in!

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:41 am
by :)
LiimaStratoTainen wrote:
MAJINDIEGO wrote:...i don't know...call me a jerk, but my heart didn't palpitate that much once i've seen the reunion took place...i'm not saying they shouldn't have been together anymore...i just wanted to hear strato back with Tolkki singing...or maybe another vocalist...just for an album....i might be selfish...but all events that followed the split-up seem kind of weird...i don't feel enough confidence...maybe that's because i've seen some nasty shit in my life and got trouble trusting people...i didn't find the "peace" like the others here...to me this story is not over (or yet never even came to exist)
:shock:
i might be making a fool out of myself...but after this Hitler song...damn folks...i just don't know...
Is anyone feeling a little confused and troubleminded?
I was feeling troubled about it when I first heard. Because I thought to myself. "Maybe it's just Stratovarius (LONG LIVE THE KINGS!!)' TIME to be over" But then I realized that that would probably ruin the lives of the members of the band. Maybe it was good that all this shit happend so that they can be a stonger band? And usually, after problems like this bands put out a really good "comeback album" because they have something to prove.
What would the world be like with out Stratovarius (LLTK!!!)?!!!? No world I want to live in!
I haven't ever really listened to stratovarius THAT much..... but I think I would by the new album..... they say it's going to be really good. But then again.... what band would say "OH MY GOD ...... our new album is going to SUCK but buy it anyways!!!!"
Timo Kotipelto's voice really bothers me when he goes high and fast.... too squeaky.

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:23 pm
by Cristiane
:) wrote:Timo Kotipelto's voice really bothers me when he goes high and fast.... too squeaky.
Than I think you should try another music style than power/melodic metal huh? :eyes

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:48 am
by Libanez
a song from jorg, mmmm... :?:
but i would like to know if the new album is going to be released in this year.... :o

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:15 am
by Jaakko
TimoTolkki wrote:
Wanderer wrote:It would be nice to hear a song written by Agent Jorg 8) Jens have shown us that he is a talent songwriter. So it would be fair to let the others try also. I fell in love with Keep the flame...
Song from Jörg. Hmm are you sure that´s a good idea?
I´ll ask him if he has something on the store.
But it´s getting late for this record. Perhaps the next one!
The thing here is, at least from my view, Strato has always been the way we know it, Tolkki decides, what pleases his ear will end up to please our ears. Those few songs by Jens are simple songs that have some Tolkki elements in them, they're not really what Jens sounds like in his own music. It just doesn't fit. The very reason why Strato made it this far is because they had the good idea to have one member deciding of the material to keep it clear for the listener. To have a sound and way of writing songs you can identify. To know it's Strato. So this good old way goes on and Jörg makes a song by the Tolkki form and it gets on the album, it's gonna be just as crappy Tolkki impression as those few Jens songs are that ended up to be heard. Really doesn't matter who writes the songs, it'll all sound the same anyway. The best thing about Strato for me is and always has been that Tolkki himself can write those songs not by the "Tolkki-form" because then he knows he's responsible of it if it goes wrong. And it hasn't so far, if not including Full Moon and 030366 ;)

When Tolkki chooses Jens composition for a Strato album he must be careful and choose the ones that can't go wrong. For me they all go wrong but anyway, for most I guess they're just what they wanna hear.

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:40 pm
by :)
Cristiane wrote:
:) wrote:Timo Kotipelto's voice really bothers me when he goes high and fast.... too squeaky.
Than I think you should try another music style than power/melodic metal huh? :eyes
I listen to a lot of power/melodic metal. Don't think I'll be switching over anytime soon, thanks.
Metal people are like the blondes of music, they have the most fun!

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:03 pm
by HvyMtlClickWitch
I'd really prefer NOT to think of myself as a blonde of anything...particularly a blonde of music. The mental picture/character synopsis that comes to mind really worries me.

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:10 pm
by :)
HvyMtlClickWitch wrote:I'd really prefer NOT to think of myself as a blonde of anything...particularly a blonde of music. The mental picture/character synopsis that comes to mind really worries me.
I'm blonde. So what are you trying to say, HUH!?!?
JK... i was just making a bad parallel between a tired "blonds have more fun" with "metal people have more fun". And now looking back on it, it doesn't make any sense.... So just forget about it.

Re: Something fishy going on...

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:29 pm
by MaFiaBoY
Jaakko wrote:
TimoTolkki wrote:
Wanderer wrote:It would be nice to hear a song written by Agent Jorg 8) Jens have shown us that he is a talent songwriter. So it would be fair to let the others try also. I fell in love with Keep the flame...
Song from Jörg. Hmm are you sure that´s a good idea?
I´ll ask him if he has something on the store.
But it´s getting late for this record. Perhaps the next one!
The thing here is, at least from my view, Strato has always been the way we know it, Tolkki decides, what pleases his ear will end up to please our ears. Those few songs by Jens are simple songs that have some Tolkki elements in them, they're not really what Jens sounds like in his own music. It just doesn't fit. The very reason why Strato made it this far is because they had the good idea to have one member deciding of the material to keep it clear for the listener. To have a sound and way of writing songs you can identify. To know it's Strato. So this good old way goes on and Jörg makes a song by the Tolkki form and it gets on the album, it's gonna be just as crappy Tolkki impression as those few Jens songs are that ended up to be heard. Really doesn't matter who writes the songs, it'll all sound the same anyway. The best thing about Strato for me is and always has been that Tolkki himself can write those songs not by the "Tolkki-form" because then he knows he's responsible of it if it goes wrong. And it hasn't so far, if not including Full Moon and 030366 ;)

When Tolkki chooses Jens composition for a Strato album he must be careful and choose the ones that can't go wrong. For me they all go wrong but anyway, for most I guess they're just what they wanna hear.
And since when it is up to YOU to tell what Strato should sound like, what is Strato ad what is not ?