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Being inspired from a thread I read on the Iron Maiden forum last night; I create a very similar thread here.

Here are my ratings for each song on Elements Pt.2

1. Alpha and Omega 10/10
2. Walk to my own song 9/10
3. I'm Still alive 10/10
4. Season of Faith's Perfection 8/10
5. Awaken the Giant 10/10
6. Know the Difference 9/10
7. Luminous 7/10
8. Dreamweaver 10/10
9. Liberty 7/10

Now you are supposed to give your ratings .

Ps: Perhaps similar threads have been made, but I can't recall any from my memory -- so here goes!

ahm... why did you choose "idioten" as your nickname

1. Alpha and Omega 10/10
2. Walk to my own song 7/10
3. I'm Still alive 5/10
4. Season of Faith's Perfection 4/10
5. Awaken the Giant 9/10
6. Know the Difference 6/10
7. Luminous 3/10
8. Dreamweaver 10/10
9. Liberty 9/10

1. Alpha & Omega 10/10
2. Walk to my own song 8/10
3. I'm Still alive 6/10
4. Season of Faith's Perfection 7/10
5. Awaken the Giant 8/10
6. Know the Difference 7/10
7. Luminous 2/10
8. Dreamweaver 8/10
9. Liberty 7/10

1. Alpha and Omega 10/10
2. Walk to my own song 7/10
3. I'm Still alive 5/10
4. Season of Faith's Perfection 9/10
5. Awaken the Giant 6/10
6. Know the Difference 8.5/10
7. Luminous 7.5/10
8. Dreamweaver 9/10
9. Liberty 8/10

Alpha and Omega 8
Walk to my own song 8
I'm Still alive 6
Season of Faith's Perfection 6
Awaken the Giant 4
Know the Difference 7
Luminous 10
Dreamweaver 5
Liberty 7

1. Alpha and Omega 10/10
2. Walk to my own song 9/10
3. I'm Still alive 8/10
4. Season of Faith's Perfection 5/10
5. Awaken the Giant 8/10
6. Know the Difference 9,5/10
7. Luminous 6/10
8. Dreamweaver 9/10
9. Liberty 8,5/10
10. Ride Like The Wind 10/10

let his express his stupidity in freedom


1. Alpha and Omega 6/10
2. Walk to my own song 10/10
3. I'm Still alive 10/10
4. Season of Faith's Perfection 5/10
5. Awaken the Giant 8/10
6. Know the Difference 11/10
7. Luminous 7/10
8. Dreamweaver 10/10
9. Liberty 7/10

1. Alpha and Omega 7/10
2. Walk to my own song 7/10
3. I'm Still alive 7,5/10
4. Season of Faith's Perfection 6/10
5. Awaken the Giant 8,5/10
6. Know the Difference 1,5/10
7. Luminous 0,5/10
8. Dreamweaver 8/10
9. Liberty 7/10

The worst StratoAlbum ever, IMHO.

Alpha&Omega 10
Walk to my own song 9
I'm Still alive 7
Season of Faith's Perfection 9
Awaken the Giant 10
Know the Difference 8
Luminous 7
Dreamweaver 5
Liberty 6


The good songs were very good, but the so-so songs were pretty mediocre. I liked it better than E1, but thats just my opinion.

nah, for me eagleheart and stratofortress make all the difference

1. Alpha and Omega 8/10
2. Walk to my own song 10/10
3. I'm Still alive 8/10
4. Season of Faith's Perfection 10/10
5. Awaken the Giant 7/10
6. Know the Difference 8/10
7. Luminous 10/10
8. Dreamweaver 10/10
9. Liberty 10/10

IMO Elements pt2. is one of the best Strato almbums.

Dave wrote:ahm... why did you choose "idioten" as your nickname

I wish I knew myself. Easy to remember I guess

1. Alpha and Omega 10/10
2. I Walk to my own song 7/10
3. I'm Still alive 7/10
4. Season of Faith's Perfection 10/10
5. Awaken the Giant 9/10
6. Know the Difference 4/10
7. Luminous 8/10
8. Dreamweaver 10/10
9. Liberty 9/10
10. Ride Like The Wind 8/10

Alpha & Omega 8
I Walk to my Own Song 8+
I'm Still Alive 8
Season's of Faith's Perfection 7½
Awaken the Giant 8
Know the Difference 6½
Luminous 8½
Dreamweaver 9-
Liberty 7
Ride Like the Wind 9½

It's better than Elements pt.1, but not very good album in my opinion

Bah, again you can see a lack of moderation here. If there would have been ´em, this topic wouldn´t have lived anymore.

Is this really worth of anything? I don´t think so. :funlo:

But of course I say which ones are the best and worst: Best: Dreamweaver 10 and Alpha & Omega 9½ Worst: Luminous 5½, I´m Still Alive 6

What's so wrong with the topic? I guess you didn't live the worst moments of this forum...

StratoHeart wrote:What's so wrong with the topic? I guess you didn't live the worst moments of this forum...

It seems you don´t know many other music forums. For example Sonata Arctica forum. Everywhere there it´s normally forbidden to make this kind of vain listing topics.

As long as its a peaceful forum, Spam will be tolerated. Start nit-picking over every itty-bitty issue&the peace ends. Thats just how it is. This isn't English Comp class.

It seems you don´t know many other music forums. For example Sonata Arctica forum. Everywhere there it´s normally forbidden to make this kind of vain listing topics.

Don't even TRY to compare this forum to the fascists at sonataarctica.info...check out this thread in their forum.

http://www.sonataarctica.info/phpBB2/vi ... php?t=1716

Just makes me mad seeing people harassed like this...

damn right, its like an inquisition over there, if something was mentioned 4 months ago, you cant make a topic about it since it was already discussed, i mean, damm how can you have constructive discussions over there

Alpha and Omega 4/10 Boring.

Walk to my own song 3/10 Strato has already done this song a million times. This time the vocal lines are downright annoying.

I'm Still alive 6/10 Pretty basic Stratovarius song, fast double bass and an uplifting melody.

Season of Faith's Perfection 9½/10 Great vocals by Kotipelto. The song is melancholic and full of bathos, "Just the way I like it, ahah":lol:. Nice nod to Mother Gaia in the solo section. Weird keyboard outro.

Awaken the Giant 5½/10 Pretty boring riffs and drumming like in Alpha and Omega, nice experiment with Kotipelto's vocals though.

Know the Difference 5/10 Nothing new. Fast and indifferent harpsichord melody, Strato should really know the difference The solo part is nice though. Kotipelto sings way too high in the chorus.

Luminous 8½/10 Calm and soothing song. Good lyrics, they may be sappy, but I like 'em. Kotipelto's voice is full of emotion.

Dreamweaver 9/10 Great chorus, great melodies, great vocals, great arrangements...a song that definitely should be on Strato's setlist.

Liberty 3/10 The first verse shamelessly imitates a known Finnish christmas carol called Joulun kellot(Softly, softly). The demo version Vapaus even starts off with the same lyrics.

Overall Elements pt. 2 was a big dissapointment for me. Only 3 good songs.

stratoplayer wrote:damn right, its like an inquisition over there, if something was mentioned 4 months ago, you cant make a topic about it since it was already discussed, i mean, damm how can you have constructive discussions over there

4 months, that´s a ridiculous time. I´m normally used to see topics already 2 or 3 years old and a new topic about the same thing is forbidden.

@fiftea: The example thread was an illustrative example of a way how to behave on a good forum and the moderation works there.

I´d say this is the only loose but not a joking forum I´ve read. It seems many of us likes that way but because here is only Jens as a moderator and he isn´t online so often, nearly everything could happen. For instance, if there would have been continuos moderators, this topic would have definately been deleted or locked.

I´m sorry but I´ve seen that a good moderator must be quite strict.

@Lapazeus: Tuhannet kiitokset! I´ve tried to think of which well-known christmas song the Liberty reminds but haven´t managed to found that out.

1. Alpha and Omega 6/10
2. I Walk to my own song 4/10
3. I'm Still alive 6/10
4. Season of Faith's Perfection 6/10
5. Awaken the Giant 5/10
6. Know the Difference 6/10
7. Luminous 1/10
8. Dreamweaver 7/10
9. Liberty 2/10

Off-topic: about the SA forum... in my humble opinion, it's good, if a forum is well moderated, but for me, the SA forum is too much moderated. I can't find that fun there, what I found here. Everyone tries to act like a moderator, and they treat newbies not in a nice way... not even close to it. It's true, that newbies are nerveracking sometimes, but patience is a basical human property, so we just have to tell the newbies to read the rules, not "fuck-off". The moderators will delete these useless stuff nontheless, or they just let them disappear.

On-topic:

1. Alpha and Omega 8/10
2. I Walk to my own song 9/10
3. I'm Still alive 7/10
4. Season of Faith's Perfection 7/10
5. Awaken the Giant 8/10
6. Know the Difference 7/10
7. Luminous 6/10
8. Dreamweaver 9/10
9. Liberty 10/10

1. Alpha and Omega 6/10
2. Walk to my own song 7/10
3. I'm Still alive 9/10
4. Season of Faith's Perfection 6/10
5. Awaken the Giant 6/10
6. Know the Difference 4/10
7. Luminous 5/10
8. Dreamweaver 3/10
9. Liberty 9/10

Beast_Pete wrote:and they treat newbies not in a nice way... not even close to it. It's true, that newbies are nerveracking sometimes, but patience is a basical human property, so we just have to tell the newbies to read the rules, not "fuck-off".

About Sonata-forum, yes I wonder the role of the so called Peacemakers there. They aren´t moderators but tries to steer newbies to follow the rules of the forum. (Of course newbies must be treated a bit not so nicely ) But on that forum, the Peacemakers sound too much like Besserwissers. And I can´t stand there one of them who dislikes Kotipelto´s way of singing badly.

IceBreaker wrote:

stratoplayer wrote:damn right, its like an inquisition over there, if something was mentioned 4 months ago, you cant make a topic about it since it was already discussed, i mean, damm how can you have constructive discussions over there

4 months, that´s a ridiculous time. I´m normally used to see topics already 2 or 3 years old and a new topic about the same thing is forbidden.

really, well ive only been there for about 4 months so, that was my uninformed opinion


and i really like the strato forum, nice people (most of the time), no serious moderation (why the hell would this topic be deleted by a moderator is beyond me since it is technically a stratovarius related topic with a nice setup to share one's opinion)

[quote="fifthtea_sausage"][quote]It seems you don´t know many other music forums. For example Sonata Arctica forum. Everywhere there it´s normally forbidden to make this kind of vain listing topics.[/quote]

Don't even TRY to compare this forum to the fascists at sonataarctica.info...check out this thread in their forum.

http://www.sonataarctica.info/phpBB2/vi ... php?t=1716

Just makes me mad seeing people harassed like this...[/quote]

Yeah, it's almost as annoying as watching the fucking idiot spammers here N E way...

Alpha and Omega - 8/10
I walk to my own Song - 10/10
I'm still alive - 15/10 (the best keyboard solo , awesome drums that build up, shredding guitar, classic Strato and a great vibe...I love this song)
Seasons of Faith Perfection - 5/10
Awaken the Giant - 8/10
know the difference - 8/10
lumious- 1/10
Dreamweaver - 8/10
Liberty - 3/10 (initial riff is cool)
Ride like the wind - I won't lie I haven't heard it before

Alpha And Omega 7/10
I Walk To My Own Song 9/10
I'm Still Alive 7/10
Season Of Faith's Perfection 6/10
Awaken The Giant 7/10
Know The Difference 7/10
Luminous 3/10
Dreamweaver 10/10
Liberty 7/10

stratoplayer wrote: really, well ive only been there for about 4 months so, that was my uninformed opinion

and i really like the strato forum, nice people (most of the time), no serious moderation (why the hell would this topic be deleted by a moderator is beyond me since it is technically a stratovarius related topic with a nice setup to share one's opinion)

About Sonata forum I have no clue, I´ve been there a member only two months. But I meant the other forums I have read.

Yes, luckily here the most people are nice and friendly. That helps a lot, otherwise this place could have been something...
About the role of this topic. Please read for example the rules of the Sonata forum and try to compare this topic to the forbidden topics there. I´d certainly say this meets all the requirements.