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14 Diamonds
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:53 pm
by Beast_Pete
01 - Fright Night
02 - Twilight Time
03 - Dreamspace
04 - Fourth Dimension
05 - Episode
06 - Visions
07 - Destiny
08 - Infinite
09 - Intermission
10 - Elements I
11 - Elements II
12 - Stratovarius
13 - ?
14 - ?
Did you notice it? There are going to be exactly 14 diamonds, if Strato breaks up after the contract ends with Sanctuary.
I know, that this topic won't live for too long, as it hasn't got too much more information, just this notice, but I'd like to hear your opinions though.
Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:24 pm
by IceBreaker
Well, I´d say this is just a funny topic. Strato could have also 14 albums after the Sanctuary deal but the Japanese compilation is just for the 14 songs. The only thing I´d say for sure is that we´ll see that.

Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:55 pm
by MaFiaBoY
To IceBreaker, 14 Diamonds is a Russian compilation. The japanese one is Past & Now.
Anyway, I don't think Infinite or Destiny can be called "diamonds"...
Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:28 pm
by Beast_Pete
MaFiaBoY wrote:To IceBreaker, 14 Diamonds is a Russian compilation. The japanese one is Past & Now.
Then take a look at
this.
Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:04 pm
by MaFiaBoY
Beast_Pete wrote:MaFiaBoY wrote:To IceBreaker, 14 Diamonds is a Russian compilation. The japanese one is Past & Now.
Then take a look at
this.
Seems my memory failed here

anyway, this has a much betertracklist than The Chosen Ones...
Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:08 pm
by Beast_Pete
I think too. It has Destiny and Coming Home in addition. \m/
Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:10 pm
by MaFiaBoY
Beast_Pete wrote:I think too. It has Destiny and Coming Home in addition. \m/
It also has Mother Gaia. And it doesn't have Full Moon

Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:14 pm
by Beast_Pete
MaFiaBoY wrote:It also has Mother Gaia. And it doesn't have Full Moon

Yeah, that two counts too.

But I Want It All!

Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:52 pm
by IceBreaker
Anyway, I don´t like Destiny, but I´ve noticed that there is a different version of Kiss of Judas on 14 Diamonds than in Visions. A bit better IMHO.
So MaFiaBoY: I have the 14 Diamonds in my collection and it´s as Japanese as it can be.

Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:27 pm
by Stratofanius
IceBreaker wrote:Anyway, I don´t like Destiny, but I´ve noticed that there is a different version of Kiss of Judas on 14 Diamonds than in Visions. A bit better IMHO.
Different? How different is it?
Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:18 am
by Stealth
IceBreaker wrote:Anyway, I don´t like Destiny
Get the hell out of this forum!!
Destiny is one of my favourite songs/albums.
Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:32 am
by browneyedgirl
Pete, you are really smart&observant to think of this! It was said by TT before all the stuff of the past took place that after the 3 contracted albums under Sanctuary took place that Strato would maybe retire&yes, there would be 14 albums to their credit! But, I don't think this was a grand plan or anything. No. of albums same as the album name.
BTW, I have the album(compilation)14 Diamonds, and it is very good!

Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:55 am
by IceBreaker
Stealth wrote:IceBreaker wrote:Anyway, I don´t like Destiny
Get the hell out of this forum!!
Destiny is one of my favourite songs/albums.
Don´t make stupid jokes. :splat:
For me Destiny is one of the most boring epic Strato songs. There are just lots of more interesting stuff made, like Infinity, Season of Change, Visions or United. But that´s just my opinion.
Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:18 am
by MaFiaBoY
IceBreaker wrote:Stealth wrote:IceBreaker wrote:Anyway, I don´t like Destiny
Get the hell out of this forum!!
Destiny is one of my favourite songs/albums.
Don´t make stupid jokes. :splat:
For me Destiny is one of the most boring epic Strato songs. There are just lots of more interesting stuff made, like Infinity, Season of Change, Visions or United. But that´s just my opinion.
Agreed !
Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:47 pm
by stratohawk
Destiny is one of Strato's best songs - of all times!!! Well, opinions differ...
Nice compilation those 14 Diamonds, by the way, I've never heard of it before. Good tracklist. Chosen ones was only kind of a collection of the singles, and some other stuff. Full moon, *lol*, I still wonder why they put that one on Chosen Ones.
Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:05 pm
by MaFiaBoY
stratohawk wrote:Full moon, *lol*, I still wonder why they put that one on Chosen Ones.
I guess it was to give us europeans the chance to hear this wonderful song

Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:59 pm
by IceBreaker
Stratofanius wrote: Different? How different is it?
As I rembember the mixing seems to be different and because of that the sound is different. But I´ll check that soon by listening both versions and tell then better.

Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:44 pm
by browneyedgirl
MaFiaBoY wrote:stratohawk wrote:Full moon, *lol*, I still wonder why they put that one on Chosen Ones.
I guess it was to give us europeans the chance to hear this wonderful song

It was told once why in this Forum. I think they HAD to put that song on the album. It was meant for Dreamspace, I think, but there wasn't room for it, however the contract with record company said it had to be used, so Full Moon was placed on the compilation. I need to find that source, but thats pretty much why Full Moon was on "The Chosen Ones"

Who chose it?

Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:49 pm
by MaFiaBoY
browneyedgirl wrote:MaFiaBoY wrote:stratohawk wrote:Full moon, *lol*, I still wonder why they put that one on Chosen Ones.
I guess it was to give us europeans the chance to hear this wonderful song

It was told once why in this Forum. I think they HAD to put that song on the album. It was meant for Dreamspace, I think, but there wasn't room for it
It seems unlikely. I mean, if there was anough space on the jap edition, why not on others ? Perhaps they didn't want to spoil a great album with this and they only gave it too poor japs

Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:06 pm
by Dave
they should have put a song from the fright night album (future shock) on 14 diamonds instead of this Full Moon :yuk:
Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:44 pm
by Bones
Dave wrote:they should have put a song from the fright night album (future shock) on 14 diamonds instead of this Full Moon :yuk:
Absolutely! Fright Night is so great but underrated album
I like almost avery song except Witch-Hunt
Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:14 pm
by Beast_Pete
Destiny being no diamond? WTF?
Destiny being a boring song? WTF?
Bo, you guys are totally lost. Get back to your bedroom and listen to Destiny more often.
Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:20 pm
by IceBreaker
Beast_Pete wrote:Destiny being no diamond? WTF?
Destiny being a boring song? WTF?
Bo, you guys are totally lost. Get back to your bedroom and listen to Destiny more often.
Nonsense. That´s not my fault that Strato has more than half-dozen better epic long songs than Destiny. Of which Infinity is definately the best one, which should be one of the real diamonds.
I think Destiny is a diamond only beccause of its popularity.

Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:23 pm
by Beast_Pete
Nope, Destiny is a diamond, because it IS the perfect diamond. And Infinity is so boring next to it...
Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:29 pm
by MaFiaBoY
IceBreaker wrote:Beast_Pete wrote:Destiny being no diamond? WTF?
Destiny being a boring song? WTF?
Bo, you guys are totally lost. Get back to your bedroom and listen to Destiny more often.
Nonsense. That´s not my fault that Strato has more than half-dozen better epic long songs than Destiny. Of which Infinity is definately the best one, which should be one of the real diamonds.
I think Destiny is a diamond only beccause of its popularity.

IMO the best epic is Visions but I agree 100% about de boringness of Destiny.
Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:31 pm
by Dave
MaFiaBoY wrote:IceBreaker wrote:Beast_Pete wrote:Destiny being no diamond? WTF?
Destiny being a boring song? WTF?
Bo, you guys are totally lost. Get back to your bedroom and listen to Destiny more often.
Nonsense. That´s not my fault that Strato has more than half-dozen better epic long songs than Destiny. Of which Infinity is definately the best one, which should be one of the real diamonds.
I think Destiny is a diamond only beccause of its popularity.

IMO the best epic is Visions but I agree 100% about de boringness of Destiny.
visions is the best epic, you're right
but the first half of destiny is just great.. the rest of the song is really boring, but that first half..

Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:35 pm
by MaFiaBoY
Dave wrote:MaFiaBoY wrote:IceBreaker wrote:Beast_Pete wrote:Destiny being no diamond? WTF?
Destiny being a boring song? WTF?
Bo, you guys are totally lost. Get back to your bedroom and listen to Destiny more often.
Nonsense. That´s not my fault that Strato has more than half-dozen better epic long songs than Destiny. Of which Infinity is definately the best one, which should be one of the real diamonds.
I think Destiny is a diamond only beccause of its popularity.

IMO the best epic is Visions but I agree 100% about de boringness of Destiny.
visions is the best epic, you're right
but the first half of destiny is just great.. the rest of the song is really boring, but that first half..

Same goes for Infinity (with equally cheesy lyrics).
Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:36 pm
by IceBreaker
Beast_Pete wrote:Nope, Destiny is a diamond, because it IS the perfect diamond. And Infinity is so boring next to it...
Boring? WHAT THE F*CK??????????
It´s more than a masterpiece. Can´t even imagine how great it is. :music:
Well, nice to see that there is also some other ppl who don´t like Destiny much or just like the half song.

For me Visions is the third best epic one, btw.

Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:18 pm
by Electric Eye
why do you expect only 14 strato albums? Is it because of the title of compilation '14 diamonds' ? well, I'd prefer to find amount of their albums in other title: 4000 rainy nights

Re: 14 Diamonds
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:45 pm
by shaz
IceBreaker wrote:Beast_Pete wrote:Destiny being no diamond? WTF?
Destiny being a boring song? WTF?
Bo, you guys are totally lost. Get back to your bedroom and listen to Destiny more often.
Nonsense. That´s not my fault that Strato has more than half-dozen better epic long songs than Destiny. Of which Infinity is definately the best one, which should be one of the real diamonds.
I think Destiny is a diamond only beccause of its popularity.

Why the hell do you think Destiny became popular in the first place?
