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HELP: which theme is Black Diamond?
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:53 am
by montoz
Hi all,
I would like to know the name of the original theme by J S Bach which the song "Black Diamond" takes inspiration from.
Thanks a lot!
andrea
Re: HELP: which theme is Black Diamond?
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:21 am
by NeonVomit
I don't think it's directly taken from any of Bach's works, however it's a pretty standard pedal note pattern that's common in music of the Baroque era. The use of the harpsichord sound while playing it reinforces this notion on the listener.
I suppose you could say it's kind of similar to a small section of Toccata and Fuge in D Minor by JS Bach, but that might be stretching it.
It's a simple, effective motif for the rest of the song to be built on, and it's easily recognisable and memorable which is why I think this song is as popular as it is.
Anyway, that's just my take on it. I could be talking complete rubbish!
Re: HELP: which theme is Black Diamond?
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:22 pm
by Alchemist
I had no idea Black Diamond was based on Bach, I dont hear anythiing similar with Bach in that song. At least what I have heard about Bach.
Only the harpsichord I can relate...
That´s not to be Black Diamond being based on JS Bach...
Re: HELP: which theme is Black Diamond?
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:36 am
by Beast_Pete
Dunno if you thought about Black Diamond... but in Will the Sun Rise? you do can here a part taken from Bach's Violinkozert A-moll BWV 1041 - Allegro.
Re: HELP: which theme is Black Diamond?
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:41 am
by stratohawk
Beast_Pete wrote:Dunno if you thought about Black Diamond... but in Will the Sun Rise? you do can here a part taken from Bach's Violinkozert A-moll BWV 1041 - Allegro.
...and that "duett" by Tolkki and Jens really kicks ass, one of my very favourite parts!
Re: HELP: which theme is Black Diamond?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:52 am
by IceBreaker
stratohawk wrote:Beast_Pete wrote:Dunno if you thought about Black Diamond... but in Will the Sun Rise? you do can here a part taken from Bach's Violinkozert A-moll BWV 1041 - Allegro.
...and that "duett" by Tolkki and Jens really kicks ass, one of my very favourite parts!
The only good part in that song, IMO.
Re: HELP: which theme is Black Diamond?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 3:21 pm
by stratohawk
IceBreaker wrote:stratohawk wrote:Beast_Pete wrote:Dunno if you thought about Black Diamond... but in Will the Sun Rise? you do can here a part taken from Bach's Violinkozert A-moll BWV 1041 - Allegro.
...and that "duett" by Tolkki and Jens really kicks ass, one of my very favourite parts!
The only good part in that song, IMO.
Funny, I also don't like the rest of WTSR too much. Though it's said to be a classic.
But yeah, that part kicks serious ass!