First...denial...RazielSR wrote:Hey people, this happened once and maybe it is not definitive. Maybe we just need to wait. Why they don't talk? Leave the differences behind!
Please dont blame them. It is not an easy thing to accept and they need time and sometimes you just cannot accept certain things but life must go on nevertheless. You all can be sure that I would not do anything like this if I would not be absolutely 100% sure it is the right decision. Disrespecting fans would be to continue under "Stratovarius" name with new musicians. That would be really really lame. I have no ill will to any of the guys, but my path is clear and unfortunately it does not include Stratovarius.exe knight wrote:This is kind of shocking, though I managed, mostly because of RR, Kiske, and the somethinlikeafact that I think I have lost my emotions...
But whatever, now I lost some respect towards TK and especially JM for not wanting to make the final showThat thing would have been super cool!
(I was listening only to strato songs while reading and writing this.)
But yeah, TT, Just carry on, fullfill your dreams.
Well, maybe I'm too stupidTimoTolkki in another thred wrote:I am sorry, but it is not possible to say more in this moment.
You will understand everything later.
, but why wasn't it possible to say something earlier?Hey Tolkki, but please, can you tell us something more about RR? We don't understand so many things!TimoTolkki wrote:Please dont blame them. It is not an easy thing to accept and they need time and sometimes you just cannot accept certain things but life must go on nevertheless. You all can be sure that I would not do anything like this if I would not be absolutely 100% sure it is the right decision. Disrespecting fans would be to continue under "Stratovarius" name with new musicians. That would be really really lame. I have no ill will to any of the guys, but my path is clear and unfortunately it does not include Stratovarius.exe knight wrote:This is kind of shocking, though I managed, mostly because of RR, Kiske, and the somethinlikeafact that I think I have lost my emotions...
But whatever, now I lost some respect towards TK and especially JM for not wanting to make the final show
(I was listening only to strato songs while reading and writing this.)
But yeah, TT, Just carry on, fullfill your dreams.
You will also need time to understand this, believe me, I am not blind to that and I understand if people get angry. But I have made up my mind and I have also never said it is just the "fault" of TK or Jörg. It is a very complicated thing sometimes. It is not black and white.
I can't see it this way. Tolkki was always my favourite artist and my favourite member of the band. Stratovarius was always Tolkki for me. I love Hymn To Life record. It is a paradox, but now after this I feel not that "100% Tolkki" anymore. To me, the announcement is very one-sided. I would like to read anything from TK and Jörg. Although I don't believe in open statements from them to come.RazielSR wrote:Yes, now it's official.
Now I understand so many things. Many people is/was always arguing against Tolkki, but now I think it's clear. The truth (at least for me) is that Kotipelto wanted too much prominence. That's all. He wanted to write songs for Stratovarius and Tolkki said no. I understand Tolkki, and I think all the metal people must understand Tolkki, because Kotipelto hasn't got enough talent to write music. It's my opinion when I listen to Kotipelto's band.
And I have read soooooo many interviews about the breakdown era, and we had always Kotipelto and Jörg saying stupid things and insults to Elements and Tolkki. Meanwhile Tolkki was recovering in the hospital, and there are interviews saying that Kotipelto didn't visit Tolkki at the hospital. For me that says it all.
Maybe Kotipelto and Jörg didn't understand that the concept, the music, the soul and the style of Stratovarius was Tolkki.
You can replace a singer, you can replace a drummer, a bassist and keyboardist, but you can't replace the main creator, who makes everything and can take out the best of each one in the band.
I think Tolkki explains it all in the official announce. I don't know Tolkki ( I wish to know him), but I can tell that he is a very very very good person, maybe too much. He has the talent in his head, and whatever they do, is gonna kick ass.
He has done the most wonderful, amazing and beautiful (I think beautiful is the correct word) songs that I have never heard. Even my girlfriend, who was always saying that metal and all that kind of electric guitars sux a lot, now its just a crazy fan of Stratovarius today, and maybe she is crying right now.
Just see the beginning of Stratovarius, when the old Stratovarius was over, see Tolkki up there singing Out of the shadows and creating what the pople has seen all this 20 years. Think about it.
Tolkki you'll always have my respect and I will always follow your projects.
The rest of the band, just to tell that they have been all very good talented musicians and Kotipelto is for me, the best voice in metal, but not now. Now it's a bonjovist/numetal strange fusion. If they are alone, it's not the same, sorry but it's my opinion.
Just to tell you, please... DON'T LET GOOD METAL DIE. I'm waiting that new RR band and I'm waiting to see you smiling and enjoying that songs in a gig. Don't forget Jens, he is the best and he has been always with you.
And Tolkki, what about a new website for the new band? Hey, you need to move quickly now! We want to see new things! And new album on 6.6.08!!
And hey, are you looking for new members? But do you think it's serious to look for new members like this? Don't you think it's better to contact with talented people as you know? I mean, you have Jens and Lauri at least. You can't lose Jens!
Please Tolkki say something.
http://www.metalfromfinland.com/news/20 ... s_revealedRazielSR wrote:Hey Tolkki, but please, can you tell us something more about RR?
But this doesn't answer all my questions! And we have a lot more.black death wrote:http://www.metalfromfinland.com/news/20 ... s_revealedRazielSR wrote:Hey Tolkki, but please, can you tell us something more about RR?
Do you KNOW TK and Jorg?Plisken wrote:Dude when your as big a stratovarius is very hard to stay humble for a LOT of people, even if you try your best. Now TT and Jens I always felt were humble but Jorg and TK on the other hand...
Nope I said it was a feeling so thats just my opinion. Im not taking anyones side and there is no blame going around. I did not say oh yah its Jorg and TK's fault all there fault end of story kk thanks!browneyedgirl wrote:Do you KNOW TK and Jorg?Plisken wrote:Dude when your as big a stratovarius is very hard to stay humble for a LOT of people, even if you try your best. Now TT and Jens I always felt were humble but Jorg and TK on the other hand...
Lets DO NOT play this "taking sides/blame game" BS, please. Its not productive.
Yes, there is... respect their decisionsRazielSR wrote: That's so unfair. There's nothing we(the fans) can do?
Back with style dear!IceBreaker wrote:Thinking about a Strato comeback is just wasting time and thoughts. You just should understand the situation and their decisions. And of course give support to their future.
Btw @Criss: 666th post.
Who is to say that there will be any keyboards?RazielSR wrote:And I don't understand many things about RR.
Kiske is the voice for 5 songs? isn't it? And the rest?
Who made the keyboards?
No keyboards??? What, what, what? Only TT. You must be joking 
Most probably legal issues. It was absolutely understandable I think.black death wrote:Well, maybe I'm too stupidTimoTolkki in another thred wrote:I am sorry, but it is not possible to say more in this moment.
You will understand everything later.
Beast_Pete wrote:Most probably legal issues. It was absolutely understandable I think.black death wrote:Well, maybe I'm too stupidTimoTolkki in another thred wrote:I am sorry, but it is not possible to say more in this moment.
You will understand everything later.
