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nefertari wrote:I´m still waiting for the CD...got an e-mail about a month ago that it is late...it should be out April 28.
Forget everything about Saaaana 
I was going to order it as a birthday gift to myself, now I guess I don't know. 
browneyedgirl wrote:
Maybe its safer to get the Visions T-Shirt from MetalDisc.com.
Try http://kaupat.gagar.fi/epages/Kaupat.st ... s/RockRoadPlisken wrote: Im trying to find a Stratovarius Hoodie(zipper) but cant find them anywhere. Cant even find the hoodie with no zipper =\
Do you believe anything that is said on those sight? 
TimoTolkki wrote:Due to insurmountable problems in the DVD production, we have no option but to postpone the CD/bonus DVD and the DVD configurations to yet unknown date in the future. This means that all those who ordered these configurations, will automatically get their money back. If you ordered CD, CD/bonus DVD and the DVD all together, you will receive the normal CD and get a refund from the rest automatically. If you ordered only CD+DVD and/or DVD, and you still want plain audio CD, we are sorry but you have to make a new order for that.
These problems have affected to the manufacturing of the normal CDs as well and we will let you know the final shipping date of the normal CD within a few days.
In any case, as a compensation, we will ship to everyone who ordered anykind of physical product the new Revolution Renaissance CD (Timo Tolkki's new band) for free.
We hope that this would give you at least a few compensation in this situation. So even if you don't want to reorder Saana CD, you will still receive Revolution Renaissance CD as compensation.
Also, we did manage to put the promotional videos of “The End”, “The Letter” and “Silence of the Night” plus interviews of Timo Tolkki (30 minutes) and Jennifer Sowle (25 min) on the CD as quicktime files.
The refunds are being processed at the moment and completed during next week. Once again apologies for all this.
Best Regards, Timo Tolkki Shop
Ylitsepääsemättömien tuotantovaikeuksien takia olemme joutuneet siirtämään kaikki Saanan DVD projektit hamaan tulevaisuuteen.
Kaikki jotka ovat tilanneet CD/bonus ja DVD konfiguraatiot, saavat rahansa automaattisesti takaisin. Jos olet tilannut niiden lisäksi viekä normaali CD:n, saat sen normaalisti ja maksamme erotuksen sinulle takaisin. Jos tilasit CD/bonus DVD ja/tai DVD versiot ja nyt haluat pelkän CD:n, sinun on ikävä kyllä tehtävä uusi tilaus pelkästä CD:stä.
Nämä ongelmat ovat vaikuttaneet myös CD valmistukseen ja ilmoitamme lopullisen lähetyspäivän muutaman päivän kuluessa.
Joka tapauksessa lähetämme hyvityksenä jokaiselle jotain tilanneelle Timo Tolkin uuden yhtyeen Revolution Renaissancen levyn veloituksetta.
Toivomme, että tama edes vähän hyvittää tilannetta. Vaikka et haluisikaan tilata Saanan CD versiota, saat silti Revolution Renaissance CD:n postissa.
Onnistuimme myös mahduttamaan promovideot kappaleista “The End”, “The Letter” ja “Silence of the Night” sekä Timo Tolkin (30min) ja Jennifer Sowlen (25min) haastattelut.
Rahojen palautus on parhaillaan käynnissä ja kaikki saavat rahansa takaisin viimeistään ensi viikon aikana.
Ja vielä kerran, olemme todella pahoillamme tästä.
Terveisin, Timo Tolkki Shop
wow Timo you rule! While its not Saana, the Revolution Renaissance album should keep me busy(and entertained probably) until the CD+DVD and DVD for Saana are released. Just wanted to say thanks man! If anything this is probably the best compensation. If others ran through this situation I really doubt they will do what Timo is doing. Once again Timo you are the man!There are so many things that can come up with mixing video's and audio, then mastering them, encoding them,etc I major in Computer Animation, Video/Audio Editing so I know exactly what Insurmountable problems would mean.black death wrote:Insurmountable problems?
Of course. But you usually solve the problems BEFORE you release the album.Plisken wrote:There are so many things that can come up with mixing video's and audio, then mastering them, encoding them,etc I major in Computer Animation, Video/Audio Editing so I know exactly what Insurmountable problems would mean.black death wrote:Insurmountable problems?
Yes. That is what we are doing, thats why we are not releasing it before we solve the problems. In the meantime we return the money and give and extra CD for free as compensation.Of course. But you usually solve the problems BEFORE you release the album.
Probably. Thats how it was with the Stratovarius DVD.Demir wrote:yet unknown date is never
I interpret it so too. But...there is a catch You have to put up with Saaaana 
And all the Kiskes on RR vill not get paid. Surprise. Surprise. For we all know thet most of the profit goes to the poor poor people on the back of the Moon It is nice to see the face of humanity here laughing to other people's problems. How sweet.browneyedgirl wrote:Probably. Thats how it was with the Stratovarius DVD.Demir wrote:yet unknown date is never
Well, Saana was supposedly downloaded over 9,000 times(paid). I'm sure many of these people burned it to CD, so its out there somewhere.
Unfortunately, it seems that the business end of things often proves to be more of a headache that the actual artistic and/or production side. The one thing that I have learned about business over the years is that while setbacks may be inevitable at times, they are rarely, if ever, omnipresent.TimoTolkki wrote:It is nice to see the face of humanity here laughing to other people's problems. How sweet.browneyedgirl wrote:Probably. Thats how it was with the Stratovarius DVD.Demir wrote:yet unknown date is never
Well, Saana was supposedly downloaded over 9,000 times(paid). I'm sure many of these people burned it to CD, so its out there somewhere.
Normal Saana audio CD is for sale of course.
Dear Mr Tolkki! If you dont want us to laugh, dont be so darn funny...Stratowarius wrote:
TimoTolkki wrote:browneyedgirl wrote:Probably. Thats how it was with the Stratovarius DVD.Demir wrote:yet unknown date is never
Well, Saana was supposedly downloaded over 9,000 times(paid). I'm sure many of these people burned it to CD, so its out there somewhere.I hope to God you were not referring to me because I sure was NOT one of the ones laughing.It is nice to see the face of humanity here laughing to other people's problems. How sweet.
Thats what I was referring to.Normal Saana audio CD is for sale of course.
Of course I wasnt referring to you. You are one of those people here who actually have a heart. It still is hard to believe how much meanness there exists in this world and how intentionally mean people can be.I hope to God you were not referring to me because I sure was NOT one of the ones laughing.
You get laughing when you make opera album that sucks, and boring stratocoverband without Kotipelto. It's not hating the light, it hating it because it sucks.TimoTolkki wrote:Of course I wasnt referring to you. You are one of those people here who actually have a heart. It still is hard to believe how much meanness there exists in this world and how intentionally mean people can be.I hope to God you were not referring to me because I sure was NOT one of the ones laughing.
Being someone who is truly concerned about all the important issues of this planet, it is just so sad to see. I write songs about love, peace, tolerance, human brotherhood and I get lot of laughing about that. Thats okay because evil hates light. And I will never co operate or argue with evil.
I would be very careful who you let into your mind and your world.
Demir wrote:You get laughing when you make opera album that sucks, and boring stratocoverband without Kotipelto. It's not hating the light, it hating it because it sucks.TimoTolkki wrote:Of course I wasnt referring to you. You are one of those people here who actually have a heart. It still is hard to believe how much meanness there exists in this world and how intentionally mean people can be.I hope to God you were not referring to me because I sure was NOT one of the ones laughing.
Being someone who is truly concerned about all the important issues of this planet, it is just so sad to see. I write songs about love, peace, tolerance, human brotherhood and I get lot of laughing about that. Thats okay because evil hates light. And I will never co operate or argue with evil.
I would be very careful who you let into your mind and your world.
Because you break up the best band because of this shit which all fails, cant even get DVD, probably because 10 people order it.
You complain really much bout meanness but only when it's about your new records (which suck.)
RR is on the internet already
See, this exactly the evil/hate what I mean