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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by NeonVomit » Tue May 13, 2008 8:53 am

Gus G from Firewind/Dream Evil/Nightrage/Arch Enemy/Mystic Prophecy? Incredible musician.
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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by boswoth » Tue May 13, 2008 9:16 am

NeonVomit wrote:Gus G from Firewind/Dream Evil/Nightrage/Arch Enemy/Mystic Prophecy? Incredible musician.
Now that would be something ... Liimatainen could have some personality problems. Does anyone really know why he is out of Sonata Arctica, the story sounds so strange, with the finnish army, or was it alcohol, or was it something else?

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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by Mormegil » Tue May 13, 2008 1:16 pm

Verdades Parias wrote:Alexander Kuoppala - ex Children of Bodom
Wasn't he "only" a rhythm-guitarist?
In my opinion man like Jens Johansson needs someone up to his standards for some intense solo-duelling. :P

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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by IceBreaker » Tue May 13, 2008 4:04 pm

Unless the guitarist is Tuomas Wäinölä, you can officially call me "stupid retard". :wink:
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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by Demir » Tue May 13, 2008 6:15 pm

IceBreaker wrote:Unless the guitarist is Tuomas Wäinölä, you can officially call me "stupid retard". :wink:
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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by Mormegil » Tue May 13, 2008 6:21 pm

I wouldn't mind if it was Wäinölä. Not after hearing the solo of Sleep Well. 8)

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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by nefertari » Tue May 13, 2008 6:27 pm

Wäinölä is good, he had an incredible solo in Tavastia March 15 th , with Kotipelto :)

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Post by TheDarkVampiro » Wed May 14, 2008 8:32 pm

I was going to say Yngwie Malmsteen but as i thought about that, i don't think i could see him getting along with the band for some reason. Probably an ego thing?

I've heard of this Tavastia club afew times before, is it big?
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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by almaroth » Wed May 14, 2008 10:50 pm

Jari Liimatainen is a good choice...

if luca turilli plays in strato, the band will be rhapsovarius xD

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Post by StratoTimo » Thu May 15, 2008 12:49 am

almaroth wrote:Jari Liimatainen is a good choice...

if luca turilli plays in strato, the band will be rhapsovarius xD
Who is Jari Liimatainen... I just hope that guitarist is going to be very tallented player and is going to be very nice to guys... :wink:
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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by Burning Reflection » Thu May 15, 2008 9:38 pm

Jani Liimataimen for sure. Jens and Jani together would renew my faith in metal! (remember winterheart's guild? What an amazing duo!)

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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by Patricia » Thu May 15, 2008 11:04 pm

Agree with Nefertari, but why not Staffan Stråhlman?

After all, he was the 1st guitar player in Stratovarius before Timo Tolkki!

And Stratovarius first was bassist John Vihervä, drummer and singer Tuomo Lassila, and guitarist Staffan Stråhlman. They were the founders of Stratovarius in 1984, before Timo Tolkki replaces Staffan Stråhlman.

And whatever who is the owner of the band, in 1984 (it was not Timo Tolkki) we've always Timo Kotipelto, Jens Johansson, Jörg Michaël and Lauri Porra. I'm sure when things will be clearest, we'll have some new great compos from Stratovarius. :)

Otherwise, why not also a great french guitar player called Cyril Leppizzera? :D
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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by Rebel » Fri May 16, 2008 2:31 am

Patricia wrote:Agree with Nefertari, but why not Staffan Stråhlman?

After all, he was the 1st guitar player in Stratovarius before Timo Tolkki!

And Stratovarius first was bassist John Vihervä, drummer and singer Tuomo Lassila, and guitarist Staffan Stråhlman. They were the founders of Stratovarius in 1984, before Timo Tolkki replaces Staffan Stråhlman.

And whatever who is the owner of the band, in 1984 (it was not Timo Tolkki) we've always Timo Kotipelto, Jens Johansson, Jörg Michaël and Lauri Porra. I'm sure when things will be clearest, we'll have some new great compos from Stratovarius. :)

Otherwise, why not also a great french guitar player called Cyril Leppizzera? :D
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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by browneyedgirl » Fri May 16, 2008 2:59 am

Will the band be called Stratovarius, though? ???
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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by Stealth » Fri May 16, 2008 7:53 am

No one has mentioned my favourite guitar player (he's my favourite along with Malmsteen... Yes, I know Malmsteen has a huge ego, but I'm talking about his playing, not his personality). Anyways, my other favourite is the Japanese version of Malmsteen. He's as good as Malmsteen (and even moves like him on stage) but without the ego, and his band actually feels like a band.... Give it up for Norifumi Shima of Concerto Moon!! :headbang:
Btw, Concerto Moon's keyboardist (Toshiyuki Koike) is also amazing.

Live video of Shima with Concerto Moon (in this video you'll see the band's old singer, which was better than the one they have now):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHXrboAHcj8

This one's from Shima's instructional video:
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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by finnlandia » Fri May 16, 2008 5:50 pm

Tuomas Wäinölä

This occurred to me now.

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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by Special A » Fri May 16, 2008 6:07 pm

finnlandia wrote:Tuomas Wäinölä

This occurred to me now.
NAAAAH!
he's way to boring live! he uses the same scales
not to disrespect you of course, you had a point on that but, face it this way
-if that happens, it will become kotipelto number 2
-his guitar playing, he has certain prowess, but hes not a VIRTUOSO! and virtuosos is what they need
-his guitar solos/ improvisations are always the same ( penthatonic/major/minor Phyrgian)
hes good but not suitable for strato

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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by miditek » Fri May 16, 2008 7:32 pm

Here's a relatively unknown, but talented guitarist-

J.R. Blackmore
http://www.myspace.com/jrblackmore

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Jurgen Richard Blackmore- his father, of course, needs no introduction.

Check out the track "Total Eclipse" on his Myspace page- it's an instrumental, but it definitely rocks!
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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by MetalAngel » Fri May 16, 2008 8:42 pm

Patricia wrote:Otherwise, why not also a great french guitar player called Cyril Lepizzera? :D
Yes, of course! Cyril is a great guitar player. He has a website :

http://www.cyrillepizzera.com

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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by Paola » Fri May 16, 2008 8:43 pm

StratoTimo wrote:
almaroth wrote:Jari Liimatainen is a good choice...

if luca turilli plays in strato, the band will be rhapsovarius xD
Who is Jari Liimatainen... I just hope that guitarist is going to be very tallented player and is going to be very nice to guys... :wink:

Oh god!! you see the most little mistake in a word soup :lol:

However, I think that i'm not so crazy for said that Jani Liimatainene could replace to TT 'cause some people are agree with me :shock:, anyway is problem of Jens and the strato guys
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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by Emperor » Fri May 16, 2008 10:25 pm

I think that nobody can replace TT, 'cause he always been the main writters of the songs...

That's sad...

I'm with you, Kotipelto, Michael, Porra and Johansson :)
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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by NeonVomit » Sat May 17, 2008 10:22 am

Stealth wrote: Live video of Shima with Concerto Moon (in this video you'll see the band's old singer, which was better than the one they have now):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHXrboAHcj8

This one's from Shima's instructional video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW9-VhfZlE4
Yeah, CM are a great band. I'm proud of our label-mates :D

Shima is an amazing guitar player, but I don't know if he'd want to leave Japan and leave CM behind...
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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by akim » Sat May 17, 2008 12:48 pm

As a songwriter Tolkki probably can't be replaced. It is hard to imagine someone composing song that could se easily be identified as strato-songs. As a guitar player he however be replaced. There are many guitarrists out there who are talented enough to learn to play strato songs and solos with decent amount of practice.

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New guitar player

Post by Rantanen » Sat May 17, 2008 8:37 pm

The new guitarist could be someone relatively unknown...it could be a big surprise. TT is not easy to replace. He was the soulof Stratovarius IMO, and Kotipelto is, maybe, the balls of Strato. :?

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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by anis1234 » Sat May 17, 2008 8:57 pm

tohellwithtolkki wrote:only two people i know

Michael Romeo or Luca Turilli

but chances are kotipelto will get Tuomas Wainola from his solo band first


No, no, no. Replacing a fundamental member can't be done. You leave James Hetfield, Steve Harris or Tony Iommi out of the band and the band should change its diapers as well as erase the name.

When AC/DC got Brian Johnsson scream his guts out through sandpaper, that worked. But if Malcolm Young would had been replaced by another, the engine would had failed.

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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by anis1234 » Sat May 17, 2008 9:06 pm

Rebel wrote:
Korppi- wrote:I hope the new guitarist is not wäinölä, because then we have Koti, Porra and Wäinölä from Kotipelto band, and on the top of that Jens has also been doing some gigs with Kotipelto line-up, so the on ly difference between Stratovarius and Kotipelto would be the drummer then :D
Kotipelto is the main songwriter of Kotipelto, I think Johannson would be the main songwriter of Stratovarius, that's big. Jorg Michael is a big part of what makes Stratovarius, well, Stratovarius. I used to be a fan of his drumming on self titled, I still am to an extent, but Strato's album needs double bass drum more than anything needs anything else right now.
Timo Tolkki wants to "Tribute" Visions and Episode, which is fine, because he wrote almost all of Visions, and a good amount of Episode. But what Stratovarius needs to show RR is that there can only be one, (Jens Johannson). But seriously, if Timo comes out with a genius record, then it's likely a lot of Stratovarius fans will shift over to RR, the band needs to come out swinging with a keyboard shredding, double bass pedal thumping, epic, album that shows people that the old music wasn't all because of Timo.
Musically Stratovarius gave everything to this type of music and they have a great legacy of albums. There's some massive, pompous songs there with many things going on. With good headphones, even old fans sometimes get to hear new things from old songs.

I took a long pause from the band's music and now it sounds as fresh as it did in 1994.

As a sidenote, I grew out of the double bass drumming. It just irritates me for some reason.

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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by Rebel » Sat May 17, 2008 9:35 pm

Mormegil wrote:
Verdades Parias wrote:Alexander Kuoppala - ex Children of Bodom
Wasn't he "only" a rhythm-guitarist?
In my opinion man like Jens Johansson needs someone up to his standards for some intense solo-duelling. :P
Kuoppala solo dueled with Laiho though, so...
But Kuoppala is done with music now.

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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by Elements » Mon May 19, 2008 1:19 am

I dunno......

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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by StratoTimo » Mon May 19, 2008 1:29 am

He is Elias Viljanen... Jani Liimatainen goes back to Sonata Arctica :lol:
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Re: who could replace Tolkki

Post by NeonVomit » Mon May 19, 2008 11:47 am

StratoTimo wrote:He is Elias Viljanen... Jani Liimatainen goes back to Sonata Arctica :lol:
That would make for great headlines...
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