Verdades Parias wrote:
obviously we are counterpoints, I don't think Tolkki is positioned as a victim and we as attackers. However, we have all the capabilities to take positions on the matter,
stratohawk wrote: R.F. wrote:
stratohawk wrote:Don't you understand? That's not what matters to him. He said it 1000x, if he wanted to make more money and play in a (financially) succesful band, he'd stayed with Stratovarius.
Well, this is what he said. But I do not understand why so many people take this opinion seriuosly so easily, without thinking at all. It is not that obvious.
I don't take anything "easily". But I also refuse to take one parts side, like many of you do that attack Timo Tolkki here.
my values, my reasons are absolutely contrary to everything that transmits Tolkki since the incident, your views and those of many of us are totally opposed, but none Lies said.
I'm not a bad person, but I am in my right not to believe and not to buy something that in my feelings, are really wrong.
We must accept us
Yep. I agree. Its can be compared to like a community/town where a majority of a certain religion is, and they may attack a smaller group just because they do not see things the way a majority might. The analogy fits. Nobody can be forced to believe something they do not want to, or if they can see evidence to the contrary of majority point of view. Its called,freedom of thought.
And, it goes BOTH ways, not just one.
We are simply dealing with that "famous musician/celeb status rights" bullshit again.
For example, once Dave Mustaine was bragging on Behind the Music TV Show that once he got caught in his car with 7 drugs IN him, and 9 drugs ON him. All he got was a slap on the wrist. If Dave had been a "regular" person like you&me, we would got 5-10 years, no passing go&no collect $200! Its injustice no matter how you try to excuse it. And, its not envy so don't anyone try to play that card.
Its called buying your way out of trouble just because of your popularity, much like the cute,ditzy blonde in high school that pouted her puffy red lips whenever she would almost get detention until she'd be allowed to get away with it. The thing is, this type of "enabling" does not last forever, which is why probably many "regular" people clapped with glee when Tommy Lee got 2 months for his bullshit he pulled.
I won't even touch the sexual double-standards, just ask Britney, MaDonna&Paris, FEMALE musicians who are often called Whores or Sluts because of their open sexuality. When a MALE musician is open about their sexual exploits, people say, "I don't care what he does, its just the music that counts." If its OK for Ozzy, Tommy Lee, DaniFilth, etc. etc. ad sickening nauseum, to fuck everyone&get BJs, then logically its OK for the FEMALE musicians or the lady next door to do it, too without being labeled.
The point is, Verdades has a right to his OPINION the same as everyone else. And, attacking him&arguing with him because of his opinion proves that there cannot be differing ideas expressed here, and in that case, whats the point in discussing anything?
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