new band name

[browneyedgirl]

the one thing you don't understand is that Timo Tolkki can do whatever he wants.......... He's human!

This is the funniest line I've read today. He can do what he wants? Why? Only God can do what He wants.
So, since Tolkki is human he has all those rights. So, logically, every other human has those rights, too.
Stratovarius is not "Tolkki" anymore. Or, STRATO, whatever.

Yes because people can only written in one style. It’s a law of nature that changing styles or role-playing causes spontaneous combustion. Besides ,morko knows everything and even has the power to tell peoples intentions using information that even the other person did not know at the time they have made decisions. never having heard of the erin situation but i'm not sure she had these powers of truth.

If you can compare hers&Morko's posts you'd know. You are smart, icecab21, you'd know.
Actually, writing style is used alot by FBI and other law enforcement agencies. So, its a serious knowledge.
Writing style is almost like a fingerprint. Even very intelligent people cannot change the way they write that much.

[icecab21]

There are factors and applications to when writing styles get their individual prints.

i am a cat
i wear a hat
i bare a bear
i care for hair
i wear a cat
i am a hat


fingerprint?

[Burning Reflection]

the one thing you don't understand is that Timo Tolkki can do whatever he wants.......... He's human!

This is the funniest line I've read today. He can do what he wants? Why? Only God can do what He wants.
So, since Tolkki is human he has all those rights. So, logically, every other human has those rights, too.
Stratovarius is not "Tolkki" anymore. Or, STRATO, whatever.

I would hope that you would think this is true. Everyone does have those rights whether it'd be ethically moral or not. The only "god" that exists is the one within every one of us. Everybody is one with "god". We inevitablly are the masters of our own ships and choose how we live our daily lives. Tolkki is attempting to teach others and extend god's arm and virtues even if it's through making "mistakes". If anything, be happy that he can continue his life and pursue his dreams. I feel the animosity and bias that you have towards him, please find compassion in your heart and if you have any criticisim, please let it be loving.

[browneyedgirl]

Geez people stop attacking browneyedgirl and Icecab21, both of them are stratovarius fans the same as you, they are allowed to have whatever opinion they like.

I really haven't seen them say anything to warrent these attacks on them, all I've seen is a bunch of angry bitter fans who spew hate on them cause they happen to bring up some very good points.

So what are we doing persecuting intelligence? I for one think they have made some very good arguments here and am glad they care about the band so much that they are willing to put their reputations on the line.

Here, here!

Actually, I don't really care if people attack because what is posted here, stays here. It does not affect anyone's life personally, at least I hope it doesn't.

Arguing over stuff that is relevant is somewhat acceptable if done the right way, within bounds. But, what is uncalled for(IMO)are posters who drag up issues dead&buried for many years just to stir up trouble, or in an attempt(they think)to hurt someone.
Still, this Forum is one of the best&nicest on the 'net, I still feel that! But if someone has controversial opinions, they will need to thicken their hide because they will get stoned!

[rakettitulppa]

I realy want that they continue as stratovarius or strato.!

[Miss Destiny]

The one thing you seem to not understand,Burning Reflection, is that BEG and those you so selfcomplacent call Troll also can do whatever they want. They are actualy human too

[browneyedgirl]

The one thing you seem to not understand,Burning Reflection, is that BEG and those you so selfcomplacent call Troll also can do whatever they want. They are actualy human too

The REAL Trolls are people like Tjabo and Zlotnick who actually almost brought this forum down with their antics.
Then, >sigh< there are folks who are LABELED Trolls because they are not a member of the "hoi polloi". In other words, people who have a differing opinion on stuff than a portion of others on the forum&thereby, are LABELED a Troll because the masses do not like what the person posts, even if its true.
There are people on forums that are liked, or tolerated until they see things differently than others, and speak up about it. Then, they are LABELED Trolls. Sound familiar?
It takes courage in society, especially on a forum, to think for oneself and not follow the crowd.

[exe knight]

Actually, in a forum it's much easier, I'm kind of used being on the smaller side.

[Mormegil]

The one thing you seem to not understand,Burning Reflection, is that BEG and those you so selfcomplacent call Troll also can do whatever they want. They are actualy human too

The REAL Trolls are people like Tjabo and Zlotnick who actually almost brought this forum down with their antics.
Then, >sigh< there are folks who are LABELED Trolls because they are not a member of the "hoi polloi". In other words, people who have a differing opinion on stuff than a portion of others on the forum&thereby, are LABELED a Troll because the masses do not like what the person posts, even if its true.
There are people on forums that are liked, or tolerated until they see things differently than others, and speak up about it. Then, they are LABELED Trolls. Sound familiar?
It takes courage in society, especially on a forum, to think for oneself and not follow the crowd.

This is all very true, except that you're part of the majority. Posting here doesn't take courage from you.
It's like Christians (80% of the population [Finland]) feeling persecuted for their beliefs by atheists (10% of the population).
I'm not saying you're wrong, though and I don't really care anymore.
I was out of this place for two weeks when my school started and not once did I think of how the things were going on in here or with Stratovarius.

[browneyedgirl]

I was out of this place for two weeks when my school started and not once did I think of how the things were going on in here or with Stratovarius.

A very healthy attitude.
Thats the point of my statement,"Whats posted here stays here. Hopefully."
Getting attacked on a forum for ones own opinion, whether the opinion is right or wrong, is not the end of the world. Why get seriously pissed at something someone 3,000 miles away posts on a forum? Either defend your point of view, or ignore the persons post, or maybe laugh at it. What else can a person do?

I was gone most of today, too&did not think about these forums, or the 'net in general. Shit, there's too many other things to do just to get by in this life.

One thing I wonder about though: In REAL life, like on the job or at school,etc, whenever people "speculate" or talk about bands&other celebs, do you guys go wild and go crazy, and "go off" about it, making a big deal of it like you do here in the forum? Odds are you don't, because otherwise, if you start ordering people in REAL life what to talk about, you'd probably get the Hell beat out of you.
And, don't say people do not talk about these things in REAL life, because they do.

[exe knight]

Stratovarium


What about Stratovaris?

[icecab21]

stratogina
stratovavarius

[NeverendingAbyss]

Stratovolcano?
Stratomen?
Stratostrato?
Stratostratostratostratostrato?
or how about Stratostratostratostratostratostratostratostratostratostrato.......

[JavyMetal1092]

hey,please,not Strato,I always correct the people who says to this way, because they say it for weakness, the real fans that I know, they can speak and Stratovarius says though it they should take them the whole day to say it,because Strato is alone the part metal, and is not that I do not like the metal, it is my favorite style, but what does a perfect mixture to Stratovarius is the melody and does not have anything that to see that Tolkki has gone away, because the alone one was not the melody, it are all the members that are and that have been in the band.

[NeverendingAbyss]

hey,please,not Strato,I always correct the people who says to this way, because they say it for weakness, the real fans that I know, they can speak and Stratovarius says though it they should take them the whole day to say it,because Strato is alone the part metal, and is not that I do not like the metal, it is my favorite style, but what does a perfect mixture to Stratovarius is the melody and does not have anything that to see that Tolkki has gone away, because the alone one was not the melody, it are all the members that are and that have been in the band.

yes, but that's what they say it will be the next Stratovarius name

[ALX]

well, i don´t really like the sound of it buti will always be their fan

[JavyMetal1092]

hey,please,not Strato,I always correct the people who says to this way, because they say it for weakness, the real fans that I know, they can speak and Stratovarius says though it they should take them the whole day to say it,because Strato is alone the part metal, and is not that I do not like the metal, it is my favorite style, but what does a perfect mixture to Stratovarius is the melody and does not have anything that to see that Tolkki has gone away, because the alone one was not the melody, it are all the members that are and that have been in the band.

yes, but that's what they say it will be the next Stratovarius name

yes, but don't like me
but this is not important, coz I always will be stratofan,with the name that they want

[exe knight]

Televarius!

[Fuuso]

How 'bout PRS-Varius

[Aldaron]

I've changed my mind. I think they should keep the name Stratovarius. The music I'm hearing now is Stratovarius too, though different. It has the same essence and with many of the same guys, why should they not keep it? Bands change and members come it and out and yet bands go on with the name even when there are many changes in members. Stratovarius is a great name and a great band and it should go on, even if Tolkki is not there anymore. He wasn't the band by himself. The other guys have the right to carry on.

[Burning Reflection]

What about Ratobearius?

[NeverendingAbyss]

fantavarius...