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TK's singing

Post by rikkertje » Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:34 pm

I don't know what you people think about this, but I think TK's live-voice hasn't really improved the last few years.

For example when you listen to Eagleheart live in 2009 and compare it to a 2003 live version, then you'll hear that the 2003 version is much better. I think he makes some words too short now. Like in Eagleheart the word 'for' in the sentence 'longing FOR the deepest desire. There you'll hear what I mean with making words too short.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugFo9abLhRI

Don't get me wrong. Of course I admire his voice. He is a very, very talented singer. I only hope that in the future he will sing like he did a few years ago. :wink:

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Re: TK's singing

Post by Ragehead91 » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:13 pm

Strange. I always thought Eagleheart was one of the easier songs to sing live.

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Re: TK's singing

Post by rikkertje » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:36 pm

Yeah, that's kind of my point. We all know that he can easily reach the notes in Eagleheart. But in some weird way he doesn't really seem to put much effort in it anymore.

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Re: TK's singing

Post by StratoFabio » Mon Jun 01, 2009 9:57 pm

it also depend on the gig and the audio quality. for example live in Montreal 2005 kicks ass! these are the first gigs after a not so short stop.
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Post by NeonVomit » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:11 pm

rikkertje wrote:Yeah, that's kind of my point. We all know that he can easily reach the notes in Eagleheart. But in some weird way he doesn't really seem to put much effort in it anymore.
You are aware that Timo Kotipelto was very ill during the first few shows of the UK tour this year right?
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Post by RazielSR » Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:31 pm

....Each day is different for a singer, you can't be perfect all the time. TK always made great performances, the same today. Sometimes he can't reach that high notes and it's normal. He was ill as Neon says, it's a long time since Stratovarius was not playing live again, they need some time, and it's completely normal too.

You can listen a lot of "old" performances where he sings perfect and a some other that he does not sing that perfect. It's human, and the same for every member. They are not always perfect.
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Post by FindYourOwnVoice » Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:23 pm

What a nonsense topic.

When one is ill, singing high and loud style pretty much all the way.... Already starts a talk on the 'non-development' of the vocalist after he actually DID those gigs out of power of will.

I'd like to say piss off topic starter, as i do.

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Post by Star_Ocean » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:19 am

Kotipelto can sound just as good live as in studio if his lungs are up to it.

I think his lungs just have trouble keeping up. He seems to get tired quicker than a lot of singers. But then again, he does have harder songs to sing than most other singers.

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Post by hiro23 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:44 am

I agree I think we should take into account the fact that he was sick at the start of this tour
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Post by Beast_Pete » Tue Jun 02, 2009 1:52 am

I wouldn't base any assumptions on recorded material. Watch them live and then you will see wether he improved or not. Recorded live audio is bad most of the times... there is a great difference between recorded and real live performance that you are experiencing.
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Re: TK's singing

Post by Hubble86 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:11 am

rikkertje wrote:Yeah, that's kind of my point. We all know that he can easily reach the notes in Eagleheart. But in some weird way he doesn't really seem to put much effort in it anymore.

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Re: TK's singing

Post by rikkertje » Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:49 am

Star_Ocean wrote:Kotipelto can sound just as good live as in studio if his lungs are up to it.

I think his lungs just have trouble keeping up. He seems to get tired quicker than a lot of singers. But then again, he does have harder songs to sing than most other singers.
This is exactly what I think. It was wrong from me to say that he doesn't put effort in it. Of course he does. But what Star_Ocean sais here is true I think. And it's not only on this tour. It's since 2006. Ah well, when they come to The Netherlands I will surely see them. As I said, I know TK is as very talented singer. :wink:

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Re: TK's singing

Post by hiro23 » Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:33 am

I think that's the point is that you know he's putting effort into it. I've heard some singers that may sound good however you can tell they are being lazy.

You know your getting 150% when it comes to Kotipelto
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Post by rikkertje » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:53 am

hiro23 wrote:I think that's the point is that you know he's putting effort into it. I've heard some singers that may sound good however you can tell they are being lazy.

You know your getting 150% when it comes to Kotipelto
Yep, I'm sure about that. :wink:

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Re: TK's singing

Post by Polaris » Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:49 pm

I prefer his voice nowadays than before! :roll:

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Re: TK's singing

Post by hiro23 » Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:38 am

I like both, yeah there is a difference but hey it never bugged me :D
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Re: TK's singing

Post by Luna » Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:09 pm

Polaris wrote:I prefer his voice nowadays than before! :roll:
So do I~ :P :P :P
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Re: TK's singing

Post by lalodrums2 » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:23 pm

Luna wrote:
Polaris wrote:I prefer his voice nowadays than before! :roll:
So do I~ :P :P :P
So do I.
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Re: TK's singing

Post by nefertari » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:34 pm

His voice was very good in SOA :headbang:

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Re: TK's singing

Post by hiro23 » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:37 pm

The only difference I can really tell between his singing now and his singing in the past is that in the past they had him doing the high operatic type vocal all the time and nowadays he seems to sing more naturally.
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Re: TK's singing

Post by Luna » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:38 pm

lalodrums2 wrote:
Luna wrote:
Polaris wrote:I prefer his voice nowadays than before! :roll:
So do I~ :P :P :P
So do I.
Personally I think his voice sounds a little dry in some previous songs,but it got much better in Serenity,and even purer and wider in Polaris,especially in those low and mid scaled parts.I terribly enjoy his quality of voice at present :lol: :lol:
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Re: TK's singing

Post by warrencurrymetal » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:38 pm

rikkertje wrote:I don't know what you people think about this, but I think TK's live-voice hasn't really improved the last few years.

For example when you listen to Eagleheart live in 2009 and compare it to a 2003 live version, then you'll hear that the 2003 version is much better. I think he makes some words too short now. Like in Eagleheart the word 'for' in the sentence 'longing FOR the deepest desire. There you'll hear what I mean with making words too short.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugFo9abLhRI

Don't get me wrong. Of course I admire his voice. He is a very, very talented singer. I only hope that in the future he will sing like he did a few years ago. :wink:
I think he is singing harder than he used to. It sounds like he is pushing and singing louder therfore using more air during the verse and chorus.
He still sometimes is a little flat on certain parts, but he's always done that.

His technique is good, and no other singer in the world has his work ethic. (TK has got to be an easy guy to work with) He will push himself to reach any note even if he is under the weather!

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Re: TK's singing

Post by nefertari » Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:35 pm

His voice is very good as you can see and listen to from these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsfGjb-evLo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsfGjb-evLo

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Re: TK's singing

Post by palarmux » Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:33 pm

Yea they are really fine :)

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Re: TK's singing

Post by hiro23 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:07 pm

I like his technique, he is operatic yet very original.
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