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Wikipedia says Tony Kakko is on Polaris as a Backing Vocalist. Truth?

Yes, Tony Kakko appeared in the recording credits on the booklet.

VictorTDD wrote:Yes, Tony Kakko appeared in the recording credits on the booklet.

What songs?

Winter Skies definetely.

He appears for the backing vocals, in Winter Skies.

The most tedious song on the Album IMO.

Ragehead91 wrote:The most tedious song on the Album IMO.

No way!
Along with Deep Unknown, the 2 best songs in the album.
Btw... I hope Sonata's new album is good... blogs say is slow and not as complicated as UNIA... so, where's the fun?
We'll have to wait...

Also, now that makes Strato and Sonata even xD
Do you remember Kotipelto at the end of False News Travel Fast from that amazing "Silence" album? xD

HinatAArcticA wrote:

Ragehead91 wrote:The most tedious song on the Album IMO.

No way!

In My Opinion it is together with those 2 horrid ballads that are "When Mountains Fall" and "Somehow Precious" and that completley unnecessary Emancipation Suite Part II-

Rage. Sometimes you are so incredible hilarious.

Hubble86 wrote:Rage. Sometimes you are so incredible hilarious.

Why? This is my opinion! Winter Skies is just a tedious and slow song which I automaticly skip when I listen to the album. "When Mountains Fall" tries desperately to be the 2nd "Forever" but fails horribly, "Somehow Precious" is just a lame, standard Power Ballad and Emancipation suite Part II is completley unnecessary, adds nothing to the good first part and only seems to be there because the band wanted to have yet ANOTHER slow, baladic songs. Like we really need another balladic song after we already have like 3. Sorry, but apart from "Forever", "The Land of Ice and Snow" and "Will My Sould Ever Rest in Piece" I don't really like any of the ballads Stratovarius has released.

HinatAArcticA wrote:
Btw... I hope Sonata's new album is good... blogs say is slow and not as complicated as UNIA... so, where's the fun?
We'll have to wait...

Not slow. No fats PM doesn't mean it will be slow. It just won't have double bass on every other song like they used to.
Yet it will be like one step backwards from Unia towards the older stuff and at the same time something totally new too.

Tommy (the Drummer) said that the album reminds him of Silence so I have high hopes.

Ragehead91 wrote:

Hubble86 wrote:Rage. Sometimes you are so incredible hilarious.

Why? This is my opinion! Winter Skies is just a tedious and slow song which I automaticly skip when I listen to the album. "When Mountains Fall" tries desperately to be the 2nd "Forever" but fails horribly, "Somehow Precious" is just a lame, standard Power Ballad and Emancipation suite Part II is completley unnecessary, adds nothing to the good first part and only seems to be there because the band wanted to have yet ANOTHER slow, baladic songs. Like we really need another balladic song after we already have like 3. Sorry, but apart from "Forever", "The Land of Ice and Snow" and "Will My Sould Ever Rest in Piece" I don't really like any of the ballads Stratovarius has released.

Emancipation Pt. II is the best performance Matias makes on the album

Rebel wrote:

Ragehead91 wrote:

Hubble86 wrote:Rage. Sometimes you are so incredible hilarious.

Why? This is my opinion! Winter Skies is just a tedious and slow song which I automaticly skip when I listen to the album. "When Mountains Fall" tries desperately to be the 2nd "Forever" but fails horribly, "Somehow Precious" is just a lame, standard Power Ballad and Emancipation suite Part II is completley unnecessary, adds nothing to the good first part and only seems to be there because the band wanted to have yet ANOTHER slow, baladic songs. Like we really need another balladic song after we already have like 3. Sorry, but apart from "Forever", "The Land of Ice and Snow" and "Will My Sould Ever Rest in Piece" I don't really like any of the ballads Stratovarius has released.

Emancipation Pt. II is the best performance Matias makes on the album

In your opinion maybe. Not in mine. I just think it is unnecessary.

Ragehead91 wrote: In your opinion maybe. Not in mine. I just think it is unnecessary.

And I again, simply just love both Emancipation Suite I and II
(Especially part II, there's just something about it)

Without different opinions the world would be boring...

Ragehead:it's cool with me if you don't like it, however I thought Winter Skies was actually one of their better ballads, as good as Mother Gaia in my opinion. However as I said your opinion is cool with me as well, I will not contest it.

Ragehead91 wrote:

Hubble86 wrote:Rage. Sometimes you are so incredible hilarious.

Why? This is my opinion! Winter Skies is just a tedious and slow song which I automaticly skip when I listen to the album. "When Mountains Fall" tries desperately to be the 2nd "Forever" but fails horribly, "Somehow Precious" is just a lame, standard Power Ballad and Emancipation suite Part II is completley unnecessary, adds nothing to the good first part and only seems to be there because the band wanted to have yet ANOTHER slow, baladic songs. Like we really need another balladic song after we already have like 3. Sorry, but apart from "Forever", "The Land of Ice and Snow" and "Will My Sould Ever Rest in Piece" I don't really like any of the ballads Stratovarius has released.

I guess you are talking about "peace" and not "piece" ?

Yeah. Damn Typo.

mayhem-for-all wrote:

HinatAArcticA wrote:
Btw... I hope Sonata's new album is good... blogs say is slow and not as complicated as UNIA... so, where's the fun?
We'll have to wait...

Not slow. No fats PM doesn't mean it will be slow. It just won't have double bass on every other song like they used to.
Yet it will be like one step backwards from Unia towards the older stuff and at the same time something totally new too.

Tommy (the Drummer) said that the album reminds him of Silence so I have high hopes.

Well.. that's my favorite album xD

I think Tony Kakko is in the backing vocals 'choir'.

And Winter Skies is an amazing song.

NeonVomit wrote:I think Tony Kakko is in the backing vocals 'choir'.

And Winter Skies is an amazing song.

yes he is and Winter Skies is very good song :headbang:

It's one of my favorite songs on that album

Ragehead91 wrote:Winter Skies is just a tedious and slow song which I automaticly skip when I listen to the album.

I disagree, but this is your opinion. Winter Skies is one of my favorite songs from this album, but we can't all like the same things

Ragehead91 wrote:"When Mountains Fall" tries desperately to be the 2nd "Forever" but fails horribly, "Somehow Precious" is just a lame, standard Power Ballad and Emancipation suite Part II is completley unnecessary, adds nothing to the good first part

Yes, I agree here, I think When Mountains Fall is boring, same with Somehow Precious and only one Emancipation Suite could have been enough.

Florian wrote:and only one Emancipation Suite could have been enough.

My opinion is that Emancipation suite should have been in one piece.
(Although I kind of understand why it's divided. I just think it would have sounded better and more "whole" as one piece).

Yes that's my opinion too.

Well in a way it's already like one track, cause it moves right from one track into the other and you can't even tell that it's switched to the next song so it ends up feeling like one big song.

Yes but they could have remove some boring parts.

Florian wrote:Yes but they could have remove some boring parts.

The boring part is mainly ES Pt. 2.

Yes you're right.

Without Pt. II, it isn't a complete work, it every Dusk needs a Dawn