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When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:08 am
by Arkash
Because many people seem not to like it, so I was curious to see what you would think of this song, which is for me one of their best!


Edit: shit, there was an option "Nice but too much of "Forever" in it" but it disapeared! :(

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:09 am
by Florian
This song is annoying I think. It tries to be a Forever-like, but fails. Lauri wrote one of the best songs from the last album (Forever Is Today), but I really don't like When Mountains Fall.

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:10 am
by NeverendingAbyss
I like it when you're in love!
:luv1: :w00t:

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:12 am
by NightScreamer
It's ok

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:43 am
by stonedphoenix
It's a great song but it didn't make me cry :lol:

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:25 am
by Eruaistaniel
I love the song. Music is beautiful and lyrics are really touching :)

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:38 am
by Noxica
There's a lot wrong with it, but it just about gets through on its charm. Only just though.

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:39 am
by Intiaani
For the third time on these forums: too soft after too much greatness that is the Emancipation Suite. Also impersonal, since it's too much of a Forever's little brother. A lousy little brother, that is, a one that won't get a job even though his mommy says he should.

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:39 am
by Malteada
who has the balls to vote for the second option? D:


i think it's a good song.
i really like the entire album.

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:32 pm
by Beast_Pete
It's lamost my favourite on the new album. Really, really great song.

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:35 pm
by lalodrums2
It's a good one but nothing original, I think it's a copy of "forever" there are better songs on polaris (with the new stratovarius style).

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:10 pm
by rikkertje
stonedphoenix wrote:It's a great song but it didn't make me cry :lol:
I agree. I think it would make me cry if my relation would end.

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:11 pm
by Ragehead91
Let me repeat myself again:
I hate the song. From all the songs on Polaris this is propably the worst although I still think "Winter Skies" is a bit more atrocious. This song tries very, very hard to be the next "Forever" but fails completly. The story that the song tells might be heartbreaking, bit it doesn't touch me at all. And Kotipelto's voice sounds as forced and strained as on the rest of the album. And most importantly: 1 OUT OF 4 FUCKING BALLADS/SLOW BALLADIC SONGS! Do we really need that many of those? I know this is mainly my problem since I dislike most of the Strato ballads but come on! Speed it up a little next time!

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:29 pm
by shg
Again, the difficult choices. The song is ok, but not special for me.

Comparison Forever, I do not understand at all. After all, the songs does not sound like each other! The only unifying factor is a slow tempo?

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:31 pm
by Ragehead91
They're both orchestrated ballads with a acoustic guitar and you can't deny that WMF was at least inspired by Forever.

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:36 pm
by shg
Ragehead91 wrote:They're both orchestrated ballads with a acoustic guitar and you can't deny that WMF was at least inspired by Forever.
Did you ask Lauri Porra about this?? There is plenty of ballads orchestrated with a acoustic guitar. :)

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:22 pm
by nefertari
I like it a lot, this song is like an old Finnish folk-song/ballad. It would be cool if Lauri would make Finnish lyrics into it.

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:36 pm
by Ragehead91
shg wrote:
Ragehead91 wrote:They're both orchestrated ballads with a acoustic guitar and you can't deny that WMF was at least inspired by Forever.
Did you ask Lauri Porra about this?? There is plenty of ballads orchestrated with a acoustic guitar. :)
Listen to Forever and then listen to WMF. Don't tell my that there aren't any similaritys. Anyway, I hate WMF and I hope they NEVER EVER will take Forever out of the setlist to play this shitty ballad.

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:38 pm
by shg
nefertari wrote:I like it a lot, this song is like an old Finnish folk-song/ballad. It would be cool if Lauri would make Finnish lyrics into it.
A great idea! It would be really nice to hear it in Finnish.

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:40 pm
by shg
Ragehead91 wrote:
shg wrote:
Ragehead91 wrote:They're both orchestrated ballads with a acoustic guitar and you can't deny that WMF was at least inspired by Forever.
Did you ask Lauri Porra about this?? There is plenty of ballads orchestrated with a acoustic guitar. :)
Listen to Forever and then listen to WMF. Don't tell my that there aren't any similaritys. Anyway, I hate WMF and I hope they NEVER EVER will take Forever out of the setlist to play this shitty ballad.
Calm down my friend! :)

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:48 pm
by Inventariado
Not in my fave ones.
Can't even think of comparing to Forever, even I guess it tries to go in that direction.
I love strato ballads but this one is not in my personal likeness.

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:18 pm
by Rage1979
It is one of their worst songs ever.

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:02 pm
by palarmux
I like that song, but it's copy of forever. It will be good on album but no for tour. :)

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:22 pm
by Florian
Ragehead91 wrote:
shg wrote:
Ragehead91 wrote:They're both orchestrated ballads with a acoustic guitar and you can't deny that WMF was at least inspired by Forever.
Did you ask Lauri Porra about this?? There is plenty of ballads orchestrated with a acoustic guitar. :)
Listen to Forever and then listen to WMF. Don't tell my that there aren't any similaritys. Anyway, I hate WMF and I hope they NEVER EVER will take Forever out of the setlist to play this shitty ballad.
I agree, Forever is in my opinion far better than When Mountains Fall.

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:53 pm
by LauriPorra
Ragehead91 wrote: Anyway, I hate WMF and I hope they NEVER EVER will take Forever out of the setlist to play this shitty ballad.
Sorry dude, i didn´t mean to spoil the album for you :(

I didn´t really knowingly set out to write a Forever knockoff when i wrote that song, it was just a song that was in my head. Naturally i understand that people want to compare it to Forever, i guess that is the fate of every single ballad that Strato will ever put out as it is such a great masterpiece. It is definately one of my all time favourites. The lyrics in WMF are somewhat in paraller to the song Forever is today, but from a different perspective.

We all are influenced by everything we hear, these influences come out in our music. Sometimes knowingly most times we don´t even know it when we write it.

btw. are you familiar with the chorus of this song (starts around 1:03) from the 70´s. Finnish version of it by Taiska called "Moi moi vaan" was quite popular in finland...

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We are all influenced by something.

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:58 pm
by Gilles
This song is one of my favorite..

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:19 am
by Arkash
The lyrics in WMF are somewhat in paraller to the song Forever is today, but from a different perspective.
Well, I dont even see how. WMF is a heartbreaking love story and (but that's personel), the first song I ever cried on, and Forever is more like a Freedom cry (didnt use "Call", that would have looked like another great power metal band), Forever makes me dream of wildlands, freedom, nature...so even in the lyrics, there are no really parrallel, but, well, cant really go against the words of Lauri... :D

Edit: Shame on me, I read to fast, Lauri was talking about Forever is Today and I jumped on Forever, well, we were talking about it, but, sorry...but yet, it allowed me to make a point I had in mind for a while when I see WMF always compared to Forever!

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:15 am
by maxicura
It´s an amazing song, it really touched me. It didn´t make me cry, but almost. And is it like forever? I don´t think so... If anybody doesn´t like ballads just say "I don´t like ballads", don´t say that it seems "forever". :?

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:13 am
by Aldaron
maxicura wrote:It´s an amazing song, it really touched me. It didn´t make me cry, but almost. And is it like forever? I don´t think so... If anybody doesn´t like ballads just say "I don´t like ballads", don´t say that it seems "forever". :?
I like it too, though it doesn't make me cry and I'm not sensing as strong a similarity to "Forever" as some here do. It's a very pretty ballad, though not my favorite. I'm not a big fan of ballads anyway. I was more touched by "Somehow Precious" on this CD - for personal reason, I guess.

Re: When Moutains Fall - Like it or not?

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:35 am
by rikkertje
LauriPorra wrote:btw. are you familiar with the chorus of this song (starts around 1:03) from the 70´s. Finnish version of it by Taiska called "Moi moi vaan" was quite popular in finland...

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We are all influenced by something.
So this is where the chorus from Forever comes from. I already thought it was familiar to me. My mother used to play this song over and over again when I was vey young!