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I'm sure this helps.rakettitulppa wrote:yes.I can't fucking wait anymore
R U sure in saying this? or it´s just your assumption based on I don´t know what?crostrato wrote:no professional lights, only the club light guy that improvise through the concert, they travel very light, only with there instruments I think, and Jorg dont even take his drum set, all he carry is bag with Meinl cymbals, drum set and hardware is usually sponzored by local drum store
They toured in the UK, Canada and the US, 3 countrys where they aren't the best selling band. Of course they didn't play big halls. And booking big halls would be stupid since they wouldn't draw enough people. Stratovarius isn't really popular over there. And I think it never really was. Wait until the European tour in 2010. Then they will play in countrys and citys were they've played before and have a big enough fanbase to fill larger halls. I think then they'll play bigger shows with bigger stages, better lighting, backdrops and all that stuff.crostrato wrote:You would not see that dvd so soon, just look have much effort they put in there show and you will get the all picture, set list, almost the same for years now, honestly I can believe that this is happening to some band big like Stratovarius, the king of melody, the king of spirituality inside the music..., no back ground screens with same graphic that follow the story maybe, theres no screens at all, no professional lights, only the club light guy that improvise through the concert, they travel very light, only with there instruments I think, and Jorg dont even take his drum set, all he carry is bag with Meinl cymbals, drum set and hardware is usually sponzored by local drum store, I think, I know, I know, there is new start with very little money to do with but I am not some guy who is only complained, I am really, really huge fan, beyond this I think, Maybe Jens will read this and think that this guy doesnt know what is happening here, but honestlyl, I m obsessive with this band, I am every day here for 7 or 8 years for few times at the day, and know what is the situation, I just dont write that much and I think Stratovarius need to be where he already was, whit big shows, by big I mean, with big production, and again I say, I know that it cost, but, still, there is thing you dont need the money for, like set list, come on, set down, and do some new songs, do not play H&H and B.D. on every show, lead the set list from the concerts so when you go back to the same venue, play the other ones, where is that master peace giants like Awaken the giant, Infinity, Elements,Fantasia where is that hits that can replace the singles that you play for years now, like I walk to my one song, Maniac dance and many more,..., do just basic work on lights, for instance, when the open song like Destiny starts, make the lights star on the same time, thats the banal things, but makes the show so much bigger, when you use this new beautiful backgrounds curtains, do the lights behind it, may they change the color every few seconds, the will again help to see it better and to look far moor attractive. And so on. But still the playing is excellent and I think you will take care of this stuff, again I dont want to hurt your filling Jens, just want better for you, and for the fans, and I know that tour is stress full and all, and thank you so much for all you doing right know, but with just this small changes I think the show will look better. OK, I gone too deep now, but, its the things that make mi unhappy to see, when some have huge potential for some thing and do notice it or don't wont to notice.
Why does it suck?Ragehead91 wrote:Yes. This band NEEDs a DVD. Sorry, but in my opinion Infinite Visions sucks. It is a glorified road-video that should be an extra and not the main part of the DVD.
Because it is one big glorified road movie! And this sort of stuff should be an extra, not the main part of the DVD. Yeah, one could bring up the new Iron Maiden DVD, but that was done professionally and it was an actual documentary. Infinite visions was just a big collection of bootleg-material concert footage with some backstage footage filmed by the bandmembers, which is nice to see but as I said, this should be an extra, not the main part of the DVD. How would you feel if they would put the Tour in Progress clips on a DVD and sell it? It would basicly be the same thing. All this footage is funny and nice to see warrant to make a DVD out of it. It is just pathetic.Lurdi wrote:Why does it suck?Ragehead91 wrote:Yes. This band NEEDs a DVD. Sorry, but in my opinion Infinite Visions sucks. It is a glorified road-video that should be an extra and not the main part of the DVD.
Irinia it's nice to see you again! I thought the earth swallowed you upIrinia wrote:I would like to see a concert DVD.
Like Sonata Arctica's "For The Sake of Revenge".
In eater one sentence I said they should play in bigger halls, with big audience, I said they need minimum production they deserves.Ragehead91 wrote:They toured in the UK, Canada and the US, 3 countrys where they aren't the best selling band. Of course they didn't play big halls. And booking big halls would be stupid since they wouldn't draw enough people. Stratovarius isn't really popular over there. And I think it never really was. Wait until the European tour in 2010. Then they will play in countrys and citys were they've played before and have a big enough fanbase to fill larger halls. I think then they'll play bigger shows with bigger stages, better lighting, backdrops and all that stuff.crostrato wrote:You would not see that dvd so soon, just look have much effort they put in there show and you will get the all picture, set list, almost the same for years now, honestly I can believe that this is happening to some band big like Stratovarius, the king of melody, the king of spirituality inside the music..., no back ground screens with same graphic that follow the story maybe, theres no screens at all, no professional lights, only the club light guy that improvise through the concert, they travel very light, only with there instruments I think, and Jorg dont even take his drum set, all he carry is bag with Meinl cymbals, drum set and hardware is usually sponzored by local drum store, I think, I know, I know, there is new start with very little money to do with but I am not some guy who is only complained, I am really, really huge fan, beyond this I think, Maybe Jens will read this and think that this guy doesnt know what is happening here, but honestlyl, I m obsessive with this band, I am every day here for 7 or 8 years for few times at the day, and know what is the situation, I just dont write that much and I think Stratovarius need to be where he already was, whit big shows, by big I mean, with big production, and again I say, I know that it cost, but, still, there is thing you dont need the money for, like set list, come on, set down, and do some new songs, do not play H&H and B.D. on every show, lead the set list from the concerts so when you go back to the same venue, play the other ones, where is that master peace giants like Awaken the giant, Infinity, Elements,Fantasia where is that hits that can replace the singles that you play for years now, like I walk to my one song, Maniac dance and many more,..., do just basic work on lights, for instance, when the open song like Destiny starts, make the lights star on the same time, thats the banal things, but makes the show so much bigger, when you use this new beautiful backgrounds curtains, do the lights behind it, may they change the color every few seconds, the will again help to see it better and to look far moor attractive. And so on. But still the playing is excellent and I think you will take care of this stuff, again I dont want to hurt your filling Jens, just want better for you, and for the fans, and I know that tour is stress full and all, and thank you so much for all you doing right know, but with just this small changes I think the show will look better. OK, I gone too deep now, but, its the things that make mi unhappy to see, when some have huge potential for some thing and do notice it or don't wont to notice.
Thay play in small bars. Venues that can hold up to 500 people at best. Do you really think they can do a lot of production work in those venues?crostrato wrote:In any one sentence I said they should play in bigger halls, with big audience, I said they need minimum production they deserves.Ragehead91 wrote:They toured in the UK, Canada and the US, 3 countrys where they aren't the best selling band. Of course they didn't play big halls. And booking big halls would be stupid since they wouldn't draw enough people. Stratovarius isn't really popular over there. And I think it never really was. Wait until the European tour in 2010. Then they will play in countrys and citys were they've played before and have a big enough fanbase to fill larger halls. I think then they'll play bigger shows with bigger stages, better lighting, backdrops and all that stuff.crostrato wrote:You would not see that dvd so soon, just look have much effort they put in there show and you will get the all picture, set list, almost the same for years now, honestly I can believe that this is happening to some band big like Stratovarius, the king of melody, the king of spirituality inside the music..., no back ground screens with same graphic that follow the story maybe, theres no screens at all, no professional lights, only the club light guy that improvise through the concert, they travel very light, only with there instruments I think, and Jorg dont even take his drum set, all he carry is bag with Meinl cymbals, drum set and hardware is usually sponzored by local drum store, I think, I know, I know, there is new start with very little money to do with but I am not some guy who is only complained, I am really, really huge fan, beyond this I think, Maybe Jens will read this and think that this guy doesnt know what is happening here, but honestlyl, I m obsessive with this band, I am every day here for 7 or 8 years for few times at the day, and know what is the situation, I just dont write that much and I think Stratovarius need to be where he already was, whit big shows, by big I mean, with big production, and again I say, I know that it cost, but, still, there is thing you dont need the money for, like set list, come on, set down, and do some new songs, do not play H&H and B.D. on every show, lead the set list from the concerts so when you go back to the same venue, play the other ones, where is that master peace giants like Awaken the giant, Infinity, Elements,Fantasia where is that hits that can replace the singles that you play for years now, like I walk to my one song, Maniac dance and many more,..., do just basic work on lights, for instance, when the open song like Destiny starts, make the lights star on the same time, thats the banal things, but makes the show so much bigger, when you use this new beautiful backgrounds curtains, do the lights behind it, may they change the color every few seconds, the will again help to see it better and to look far moor attractive. And so on. But still the playing is excellent and I think you will take care of this stuff, again I dont want to hurt your filling Jens, just want better for you, and for the fans, and I know that tour is stress full and all, and thank you so much for all you doing right know, but with just this small changes I think the show will look better. OK, I gone too deep now, but, its the things that make mi unhappy to see, when some have huge potential for some thing and do notice it or don't wont to notice.
I m not sure, but I have two organs called eyes, that s for sure.sheryl1 wrote:R U sure in saying this? or it´s just your assumption based on I don´t know what?crostrato wrote:no professional lights, only the club light guy that improvise through the concert, they travel very light, only with there instruments I think, and Jorg dont even take his drum set, all he carry is bag with Meinl cymbals, drum set and hardware is usually sponzored by local drum store
Again, I said, minimum production in right way, not a lot of production.Ragehead91 wrote:Thay play in small bars. Venues that can hold up to 500 people at best. Do you really think they can do a lot of production work in those venues?crostrato wrote:In any one sentence I said they should play in bigger halls, with big audience, I said they need minimum production they deserves.Ragehead91 wrote:They toured in the UK, Canada and the US, 3 countrys where they aren't the best selling band. Of course they didn't play big halls. And booking big halls would be stupid since they wouldn't draw enough people. Stratovarius isn't really popular over there. And I think it never really was. Wait until the European tour in 2010. Then they will play in countrys and citys were they've played before and have a big enough fanbase to fill larger halls. I think then they'll play bigger shows with bigger stages, better lighting, backdrops and all that stuff.crostrato wrote:You would not see that dvd so soon, just look have much effort they put in there show and you will get the all picture, set list, almost the same for years now, honestly I can believe that this is happening to some band big like Stratovarius, the king of melody, the king of spirituality inside the music..., no back ground screens with same graphic that follow the story maybe, theres no screens at all, no professional lights, only the club light guy that improvise through the concert, they travel very light, only with there instruments I think, and Jorg dont even take his drum set, all he carry is bag with Meinl cymbals, drum set and hardware is usually sponzored by local drum store, I think, I know, I know, there is new start with very little money to do with but I am not some guy who is only complained, I am really, really huge fan, beyond this I think, Maybe Jens will read this and think that this guy doesnt know what is happening here, but honestlyl, I m obsessive with this band, I am every day here for 7 or 8 years for few times at the day, and know what is the situation, I just dont write that much and I think Stratovarius need to be where he already was, whit big shows, by big I mean, with big production, and again I say, I know that it cost, but, still, there is thing you dont need the money for, like set list, come on, set down, and do some new songs, do not play H&H and B.D. on every show, lead the set list from the concerts so when you go back to the same venue, play the other ones, where is that master peace giants like Awaken the giant, Infinity, Elements,Fantasia where is that hits that can replace the singles that you play for years now, like I walk to my one song, Maniac dance and many more,..., do just basic work on lights, for instance, when the open song like Destiny starts, make the lights star on the same time, thats the banal things, but makes the show so much bigger, when you use this new beautiful backgrounds curtains, do the lights behind it, may they change the color every few seconds, the will again help to see it better and to look far moor attractive. And so on. But still the playing is excellent and I think you will take care of this stuff, again I dont want to hurt your filling Jens, just want better for you, and for the fans, and I know that tour is stress full and all, and thank you so much for all you doing right know, but with just this small changes I think the show will look better. OK, I gone too deep now, but, its the things that make mi unhappy to see, when some have huge potential for some thing and do notice it or don't wont to notice.
I think what they did in the US and UK shows is the maximun they could do in that situation.crostrato wrote:Again, I said, minimum production in right way, not a lot of production.Ragehead91 wrote:Thay play in small bars. Venues that can hold up to 500 people at best. Do you really think they can do a lot of production work in those venues?crostrato wrote:In any one sentence I said they should play in bigger halls, with big audience, I said they need minimum production they deserves.Ragehead91 wrote:They toured in the UK, Canada and the US, 3 countrys where they aren't the best selling band. Of course they didn't play big halls. And booking big halls would be stupid since they wouldn't draw enough people. Stratovarius isn't really popular over there. And I think it never really was. Wait until the European tour in 2010. Then they will play in countrys and citys were they've played before and have a big enough fanbase to fill larger halls. I think then they'll play bigger shows with bigger stages, better lighting, backdrops and all that stuff.crostrato wrote:You would not see that dvd so soon, just look have much effort they put in there show and you will get the all picture, set list, almost the same for years now, honestly I can believe that this is happening to some band big like Stratovarius, the king of melody, the king of spirituality inside the music..., no back ground screens with same graphic that follow the story maybe, theres no screens at all, no professional lights, only the club light guy that improvise through the concert, they travel very light, only with there instruments I think, and Jorg dont even take his drum set, all he carry is bag with Meinl cymbals, drum set and hardware is usually sponzored by local drum store, I think, I know, I know, there is new start with very little money to do with but I am not some guy who is only complained, I am really, really huge fan, beyond this I think, Maybe Jens will read this and think that this guy doesnt know what is happening here, but honestlyl, I m obsessive with this band, I am every day here for 7 or 8 years for few times at the day, and know what is the situation, I just dont write that much and I think Stratovarius need to be where he already was, whit big shows, by big I mean, with big production, and again I say, I know that it cost, but, still, there is thing you dont need the money for, like set list, come on, set down, and do some new songs, do not play H&H and B.D. on every show, lead the set list from the concerts so when you go back to the same venue, play the other ones, where is that master peace giants like Awaken the giant, Infinity, Elements,Fantasia where is that hits that can replace the singles that you play for years now, like I walk to my one song, Maniac dance and many more,..., do just basic work on lights, for instance, when the open song like Destiny starts, make the lights star on the same time, thats the banal things, but makes the show so much bigger, when you use this new beautiful backgrounds curtains, do the lights behind it, may they change the color every few seconds, the will again help to see it better and to look far moor attractive. And so on. But still the playing is excellent and I think you will take care of this stuff, again I dont want to hurt your filling Jens, just want better for you, and for the fans, and I know that tour is stress full and all, and thank you so much for all you doing right know, but with just this small changes I think the show will look better. OK, I gone too deep now, but, its the things that make mi unhappy to see, when some have huge potential for some thing and do notice it or don't wont to notice.
I would say, that with small things, they could make it a lot better, but ok, that is my opinion.Ragehead91 wrote:I think what they did in the US and UK shows is the maximun they could do in that situation.crostrato wrote:Again, I said, minimum production in right way, not a lot of production.Ragehead91 wrote:Thay play in small bars. Venues that can hold up to 500 people at best. Do you really think they can do a lot of production work in those venues?crostrato wrote:In any one sentence I said they should play in bigger halls, with big audience, I said they need minimum production they deserves.Ragehead91 wrote:They toured in the UK, Canada and the US, 3 countrys where they aren't the best selling band. Of course they didn't play big halls. And booking big halls would be stupid since they wouldn't draw enough people. Stratovarius isn't really popular over there. And I think it never really was. Wait until the European tour in 2010. Then they will play in countrys and citys were they've played before and have a big enough fanbase to fill larger halls. I think then they'll play bigger shows with bigger stages, better lighting, backdrops and all that stuff.crostrato wrote:You would not see that dvd so soon, just look have much effort they put in there show and you will get the all picture, set list, almost the same for years now, honestly I can believe that this is happening to some band big like Stratovarius, the king of melody, the king of spirituality inside the music..., no back ground screens with same graphic that follow the story maybe, theres no screens at all, no professional lights, only the club light guy that improvise through the concert, they travel very light, only with there instruments I think, and Jorg dont even take his drum set, all he carry is bag with Meinl cymbals, drum set and hardware is usually sponzored by local drum store, I think, I know, I know, there is new start with very little money to do with but I am not some guy who is only complained, I am really, really huge fan, beyond this I think, Maybe Jens will read this and think that this guy doesnt know what is happening here, but honestlyl, I m obsessive with this band, I am every day here for 7 or 8 years for few times at the day, and know what is the situation, I just dont write that much and I think Stratovarius need to be where he already was, whit big shows, by big I mean, with big production, and again I say, I know that it cost, but, still, there is thing you dont need the money for, like set list, come on, set down, and do some new songs, do not play H&H and B.D. on every show, lead the set list from the concerts so when you go back to the same venue, play the other ones, where is that master peace giants like Awaken the giant, Infinity, Elements,Fantasia where is that hits that can replace the singles that you play for years now, like I walk to my one song, Maniac dance and many more,..., do just basic work on lights, for instance, when the open song like Destiny starts, make the lights star on the same time, thats the banal things, but makes the show so much bigger, when you use this new beautiful backgrounds curtains, do the lights behind it, may they change the color every few seconds, the will again help to see it better and to look far moor attractive. And so on. But still the playing is excellent and I think you will take care of this stuff, again I dont want to hurt your filling Jens, just want better for you, and for the fans, and I know that tour is stress full and all, and thank you so much for all you doing right know, but with just this small changes I think the show will look better. OK, I gone too deep now, but, its the things that make mi unhappy to see, when some have huge potential for some thing and do notice it or don't wont to notice.
Thanks LurdiLurdi wrote:Irinia it's nice to see you again! I thought the earth swallowed you up
It's nice to be back too!Yet again it saddens me to see your awfully limited views. "Edguy isn't SUPPOSE to play music like this-and-that", "a music DVD is SUPPOSED to be like this-and-that... Wake up!Ragehead91 wrote:And this sort of stuff should be an extra, not the main part of the DVD.
I'm kind of hoping this to become something of a habit as far as no-one actually gets offended. It's phun! ^_^+RazielSR wrote:I have to agree. Incomprehensibly, we don't have a decent DVD released yet...A lot of years without a good live footage...The only quality live footage you can find out there is RMJ 04...