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Re: WTF???!!
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by Patricia » Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:27 pm
And i guess you act like a normal human..?
Anyway, i couldn't watch this racoons's video until the end..

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by MetalAngel » Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:30 pm
Patricia wrote:And i guess you act like a normal human..?

Of course. I love animals and I couldn't make them suffer...
Patricia wrote:Anyway, i couldn't watch this racoons's video until the end..

What video??
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by Patricia » Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:36 pm
[quote="MetalAngel]
What video??[/quote]
If you read this topic from the beginning, you'll see in the 1st page this sad video..

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by stratohawk » Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:12 pm
Patricia wrote:[quote="MetalAngel]
What video??
If you read this topic from the beginning, you'll see in the 1st page this sad video..

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It's not sad, it's disgusting!

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by Patricia » Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:24 pm
Indeed!! It's sad, disgusting, cruel!!! It shouldn't exist!!!

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by stratoplayer » Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:30 pm
Anyone feel ashamed of belonging to the same species as those assholes?
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by stratohawk » Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:03 am
stratoplayer wrote:Anyone feel ashamed of belonging to the same species as those assholes?
Yes, I do so. Though evil is in every person, I'm sure that I'd never be able to do such things in every normal mental condition.
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by TrialByFire » Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:38 am
The way I see it, ignorance is bliss when it comes to the procedures used. I am not one to buy furs, but if I were to buy one for my wife on a given day I would do it and not feel ashamed in how it was done. I feel the same way when I go into the grocery store to buy meat or go into Wilson's Leather Shop. Same thing either way, animals bred to be slaughtered.
Also it would take more than one piece of "evidence" to prove that this is the only procedure. That is bullshit and whoever put that video up knows it is bullshit. But it works for their own agenda. They will only show certain types of people who are the most cruel and barbaric in their methods, this way it will work in the opposing views favor.
If that were the case, wouldn't rabbits have to be skinned alive for their fur since it is so delicate? Funny how they usually do it in the correct order, shoot first skin later.
One thing I do have a problem with is someone jackass from the animal rights movement who feels the need to throw paint on someone's fur. Like it or not, it is still someone's property no matter how you feel about fur coats.
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by stratoplayer » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:29 am
TrialByFire wrote:The way I see it, ignorance is bliss when it comes to the procedures used. I am not one to buy furs, but if I were to buy one for my wife on a given day I would do it and not feel ashamed in how it was done. I feel the same way when I go into the grocery store to buy meat or go into Wilson's Leather Shop. Same thing either way, animals bred to be slaughtered.
Also it would take more than one piece of "evidence" to prove that this is the only procedure. That is bullshit and whoever put that video up knows it is bullshit. But it works for their own agenda. They will only show certain types of people who are the most cruel and barbaric in their methods, this way it will work in the opposing views favor.
If that were the case, wouldn't rabbits have to be skinned alive for their fur since it is so delicate? Funny how they usually do it in the correct order, shoot first skin later.
One thing I do have a problem with is someone jackass from the animal rights movement who feels the need to throw paint on someone's fur. Like it or not, it is still someone's property no matter how you feel about fur coats.
i am sure that the one who posted the video did it to gain support for their cause, but the fact that it has happened is what is really aweful, i do not doubt that there are those who skin animals once they are dead, but that video has some very powerful images regardless.
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by Miguel_Ricardo » Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:36 am
damnit I had a nightmare with this video some nights ago
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by Paschendale » Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:38 am
Actually I am quite surprised to find so many against the use of animals to make furs, yet I am willing to bet some of you own leather. There is absolutely no difference. What is a cow not an animal?
And as for animal rights groups...well I wouldn't be surprised that they didn't comit the act themselves and video tape it for propoganda.
PETA Employees Face 31 Felony Animal-Cruelty Charges for Killing, Dumping Dogs
Posted On June 16, 2005
Ahoskie, NC – Last night, one month after the launch of www.PetaKillsAnimals.com, two employees of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) were arrested on 31 felony animal-cruelty charges for killing and disposing of dogs and puppies in a dumpster. Today the Center for Consumer Freedom is calling on Americans to stop making donations to support PETA and its grim-reaper program.
When Ahoskie police arrested PETA employees Andrew Cook and Adria Hinkle last night, they found 18 dead dogs in a nearby shopping-center dumpster (including a bag containing seven dead puppies), and 13 more dead dogs in the PETA-owned van the two were driving. Police observed them throwing several dark-colored bags into the dumpster before the arrests were made.
This is not the first public mention of PETA’s large-scale euthanasia program. In May 2005 the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) unveiled a giant Times Square billboard and a new website (www.PetaKillsAnimals.com). CCF had obtained official records from the state of Virginia showing the militant animal-rights group had put over 10,000 dogs and cats to death since 1998.
In 2003 PETA euthanized over 85 percent of the animals it took in, finding adoptive homes for just 14 percent. By comparison, the Norfolk SPCA found adoptive homes for 73 percent of its animals and the Virginia Beach SPCA adopted out 66 percent. PETA’s required report documenting its 2004 record is currently over 4 weeks late.
A Bertie County (NC) Deputy Sheriff told The Roanoke-Chowan News-Herald that Cook and Hinkle assured the Bertie Animal Shelter “they were picking up the dogs to take them back to Norfolk where they would find them good homes.” Pittman added that persons identifying themselves as PETA representatives have picked up live dogs from that shelter during the last two months.
“This is disturbing behavior on the part of self-professed animal lovers, and I hope the public takes notice,” said Center for Consumer Freedom Director of Research David Martosko. “PETA raked in nearly $29 million last year alone, but apparently it couldn’t spare any money to care for the flesh-and-blood animals entrusted to its employees. It’s ironic -- If anyone else were caught red-handed with 31 dead dogs, PETA would be holding a press conference to denounce them.”
Martosko added: “Last month when we launched PetaKillsAnimals.com, we warned the public that PETA was not the warm and kind group it claimed to be. Now it’s clearer than ever that Americans who truly want to help animals should donate to their local animal shelter, not to PETA.”
The Center for Consumer Freedom is a nonprofit coalition supported by restaurants, food companies, and consumers, working together to promote personal responsibility and protect consumer choices.
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by Paschendale » Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:42 am
And one more thing, fur trappers do not skin the animals alive. They trap them, kill them then skin them, then sell the furs.
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by Patricia » Wed Dec 14, 2005 11:34 pm
I hate furs! That's like that!
I've aloready seen on Tv that on some countries, the cows for example, are not killed in a nice way when they're brought to the abattoirs.

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by Warrior of Hell » Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:10 am
i always get agressive when i watch things like that
i want to punch those assholes!
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by metal_4_life14 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:21 pm
I just want to say it's horrible. i was furious when i saw those images!!!!

I can't believe that!!!!
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