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Re: The mr. ''m'' thread, or, The Off Topic Place

Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:17 am

hoo yes, I take these video and solver the copyright attack of the discography

but the track is my production, you can edit video with adobe premiere

advice, my version have tons of volumen, you cant listen it in the same level why can kill your ears :lol:

are you musician? why maybe one musician can discover that I did a different version with more tracks why i hadd Hide Tracks and sound more clear.

NOT MISTAKE CLEAR WITH SHARP

this is the confussion that low engineers do always :lol:

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Post by Liberty » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:27 am

no, i just listenened with my headphones. Someone with the same model described it online : orthodynamic headphones. They have a perfect stereo image between 100hz and 1.1Khz.

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:38 am

Liberty wrote:no, i just listenened with my headphones. Someone with the same model described it online : orthodynamic headphones. They have a perfect stereo image between 100hz and 1.1Khz.

haaa but high frequencies have stereo too, this is the huge difference in my sound

for that is new and different :D

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:57 pm

See the perfect business here, liberty

you can do double giant business here with complete stratovarius discography in mega HD real sound

You can make remasters of original versions and SPECIAL EDITIONS OF ALL THE STRATOVARIUS DISCOGRAPHY IN TRUE HD

FROM FRIGHT NIGHT TO ETERNAL
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Post by Liberty » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:02 pm

i can't see the picture.

About my headphones you were right. I checked out about the hertz thing: https://www.turntablelab.com/pages/head ... headphones
So my headphones are missing the 20hz to 100hz range and i hear more treble. I can still hear the bass frequencies and i think i hear more of it in the other version of the song.

I heard the big difference between the Yngwie song and the Rhapsody Of Fire album. I don't know if the missing frequencies affect the results.

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:41 pm

Liberty wrote:i can't see the picture.

About my headphones you were right. I checked out about the hertz thing: https://www.turntablelab.com/pages/head ... headphones
So my headphones are missing the 20hz to 100hz range and i hear more treble. I can still hear the bass frequencies and i think i hear more of it in the other version of the song.

I heard the big difference between the Yngwie song and the Rhapsody Of Fire album. I don't know if the missing frequencies affect the results.
The original version is more high frequencies que you listen more bass why the guitars are ajusted more bass and not like a guitar that is not so bass

if you play a guitar direct you will listen that wthe guitar is not bass

that I do is separate bass from guitar, and in this, you can listen one bassist as bassit and not one bassist inside the guitarrist stomach :lol:

anyway the original have 6 guitars playing different stuff? you notice this?

I bet that you dont

about headphones, yes if you are using a STUDIO HEADPHONES, THEY TRY TO HAVE FLAT SOUND, LIKE THIS ONE THAT I USE

https://www.amazon.com/Shure-SRH440-Pro ... B002DP1FTU

this have a lot middle range too and bass just like your

but to compensate this "flat" sound

you need listen qthe audio with a standart sound card like a basic realtek PC onboard

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why is as a true difference, is that this sound card, make beauty the audio and try to not be flat, the sound card, that all the planet use, have ne special of "lourdess" forcing some class of frequencies

and if you use an studio sound card is more wrong, why the people not use sound card professional

Not all are musicians or pro guys sound engineers

this sound is special for HUGE AUDIO SISTEMS and can be extra strong for guys that love burn his brain with hi volume

just like luca Turilli love to say in his videos :D :lol:


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Post by Liberty » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:22 pm

No i wouldn't notice the 6 guitars, you are right about that.

Got a comment back from someone with better headphones, not a musician, just a listener:

In the original version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUt_7TQCWtU the voice has
a little echo sound and the solo is different. In your version it's missing bass and the midrange+treble combo is really loud.

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:25 pm

Liberty wrote:No i wouldn't notice the 6 guitars, you are right about that.

Got a comment back from someone with better headphones, not a musician, just a listener:

In the original version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUt_7TQCWtU the voice has
a little echo sound and the solo is different. In your version it's missing bass and the midrange+treble combo is really loud.
this is for the insanely guitars that they record

the bass is mixed with the guitars there

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:26 pm

yes, you have right in this


OOOPPSSS I NEED CHANGE IT :lol:

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:29 pm

I WILL DO A CORRECTION OF THIS, THANKS

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Post by Liberty » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:35 pm

Would putting more bass than the Rapsody of Fire album help it ?

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:37 pm

YOU SEE IN THE END? I'M NOT the class of person that you kick me in the begins, i'm accesible and I understand my shits. :lol:

and in this, i did a shit, but i try not aplly fx, i wish that the musicians put his effects :D :)

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:40 pm

Liberty wrote:Would putting more bass than the Rapsody of Fire album help it ?

the problem was that i fucked out in the 3ra face of mastering

you know, restore audio of 1978 is insane job

and with the obsession of make sound all brian may, i shit the treble

one old master techme that to do a good job in engineer, need have cold blood and block emotions, more if the music is your favorite band


and with brian may details, my emotions was fucked and i did a shit

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Post by Liberty » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:03 pm

i think it would be more advantageous for you to show work you did with more recent musicians.

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:09 pm

Liberty wrote:i think it would be more advantageous for you to show work you did with more recent musicians.

I hope got the possibily but for now is this and wueen is queen

is not me playing :lol:


anyway, the last bass is not like 1978 bass

if i show you how sound the original sound of queen, you can't believe it

is extra midd, brian may use very "Tony kakko" voice in his guitar, :lol:

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Post by Liberty » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:36 pm

is it different from the vinyl one ?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnU9vyt8E1c

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:36 pm

I got the stuff thanks to you, now i can change my mind in independent path to re master

and reformulate more adaptive technique and not standarized never

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:48 pm

Liberty wrote:is it different from the vinyl one ?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnU9vyt8E1c
yes, there have a few tracks, I will copy you the track list from my pc

yes, sound differents to there and have less tracks

the tracks that I got is fucked insanely

there is a standart queen simple, the guys fucke me with two tons of traks

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original version is easy :cry:

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 5:57 pm

Liberty wrote:is it different from the vinyl one ?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnU9vyt8E1c
i dont know why you all not want put me a healthy critic, you just did it and i can improve, Now I can change biycle race and Brighton rock

i need end the job of web page that I'm working and chill a bit, im stressed badly, a lot pressions here :oops:

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Post by Liberty » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:02 pm

I'm trying to understand what i hear with the right vocabulary.

Is ''sharpness of voice'' the right word to describe the difference between the Yngwie song and the Rhapasody of fire one ? i hear one voice less clearer than the other, but maybe i should say less sharper than the other one.

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:20 pm

Liberty wrote:I'm trying to understand what i hear with the right vocabulary.

Is ''sharpness of voice'' the right word to describe the difference between the Yngwie song and the Rhapasody of fire one ? i hear one voice less clearer than the other, but maybe i should say less sharper than the other one.
the problem is just all sound engineers have his own standarized technique.

I ask to re change my mind and do a versatile engineer.

you will see, metal engineers only mix metal in a standart technique, all metal sound the same


pop engineers, only mix pop engineers and all sound the same

this is that happen

now, after recording my covers I was good in metal and new sounds, but i need got skilled in old rock classic.

where the sound is not so nice, is a nightmare

about malmsteen

was all a huge shit, special the drums, bass and vocals is not so bad

was the path that the sound engineer apply the EQ and compresors

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Post by Liberty » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:46 pm

For your Queen remasters :

I don't think that the public opinion is 100% reliable. It all depends on the equipment they use. Someone that hears the songs through cheap headphones will not give you the same opinion as another with high end earphones. Same with people with sound cards in their computers vs laptops or tablets.

Even if they hear through their speakers, you don't know if they are hearing through cheap speakers or through expensive sound systems.

There's got to be a standard somewhere for reference.

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:13 pm

Liberty wrote:For your Queen remasters :

I don't think that the public opinion is 100% reliable. It all depends on the equipment they use. Someone that hears the songs through cheap headphones will not give you the same opinion as another with high end earphones. Same with people with sound cards in their computers vs laptops or tablets.

Even if they hear through their speakers, you don't know if they are hearing through cheap speakers or through expensive sound systems.

There's got to be a standard somewhere for reference.
yes, but i'm very thankful with you why you said an honest critic and this help a lot.

queen is not metal, is classic rock or rock, the rock music have the tendence in have a lot mid range frequencies.

the metal is low and high

fot that, the engineers take one determined position in the music, or is dedicated to the metal or dedicared to the rock, or pop, or electronic, all the generes have different jobs of engineering.

me, mixing queen, letme fail and learn mix rock too

you will discover that for example "roger water dont will mix stratovarius why will fail why he are trained in progressive/psycodelic/rock and not in all the power of the metal

one guy that mix metal, cant mic pink floyd, why can sound all low and lose sense of the style

but thanks to you, i can break this limitation with myself, thanks, i'm very happy for that :D

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Post by Liberty » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:24 pm

I'll tell that to the other person who sent me his critic. I didn't know they had different styles of mixing.

Any chance of hearing a balance between rock and metal ? or they simply won't mix ?

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:46 pm

Liberty wrote:I'll tell that to the other person who sent me his critic. I didn't know they had different styles of mixing.

Any chance of hearing a balance between rock and metal ? or they simply won't mix ?

metal is powerful - Know it more like "Angry Music", rock is more soft "Rock is just like "Rebel music"

metal have high bass and high frequencies rock jump mostkly in mid range frequencies


like that pop is mid high level frequencies, by that the pop music is "happy music"

electronic music is mostly high frequencies "robotic music"

all the music have his Frequecies, the human brain, use frequencies, that impact into the personality of one person.


Bad or with testosterone excess "violent" but the person is not necesary be violent - metal


POP music - More light personality of the listener

rock - Rebel

electronic fribolous personality

but after come the mixtures, the combination of all






:D


this is science of biology, and the sound engineer job is not the same in the differents styles


:lol: :D

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:53 pm

Liberty wrote:I'll tell that to the other person who sent me his critic. I didn't know they had different styles of mixing.

Any chance of hearing a balance between rock and metal ? or they simply won't mix ?
yes, can be possible but need a extra skilled engineer,

for now, this not exist,

or you listen extra heavy rock or one devaluated metal

the difference is extreme

this is rock - not mistake, is rock, not metal or hard rock or heavy metal, the point is the guitar, is rock

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all is full differents, you can see the point that I try to say??

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Post by Liberty » Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:47 pm

yes, I think you're trying to say that it's determined by what kind of guitar they use.

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:38 pm

Liberty wrote:yes, I think you're trying to say that it's determined by what kind of guitar they use.
exactly

if i take this song, unbreakeable

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and i change to matias kupiainen and the drummer in his double mass

is a simple rock song

but you are listening that is a powermetal song :lol:
I think you're trying to say that it's determined by what kind of guitar they use
not only the guitar, is guitar drums and classic metal stuff like double mass, or mutepalm in rythm


you want that i kill unbreakeable and put in into rock style? :shock:

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:47 pm

listen this

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the style is determinated by the sound. mostly

if we start to put the mose more inside i can hell you that metal was inspired in the classical music.

if I play vivaldi with electric guitar, is metal :lol:

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