Filthy Liberal Pedocrats Subsidize Viagra For Child Rapists

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How would YOU have voted for SA 3556 ?

Yea- table the amendment so the pedos keep their Viagra subsidy.
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25%
Nay- fuck no, they should be castrated, not given Viagra to assist in future crimes against the innocent!
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Total votes: 8

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Post by JensJohansson » Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:17 am

1) I would probably classify as a liberal but not necessarily a pedocrat :lol:

2) I still laugh at these words: pedocrat, Hillary Klingon, Nazi Pelosi, Arafart, Obamao.

3) Don't fret fundamentally about the US, the US has survived a lot of strange things and will still be there for many generations after we are gone ..

4) I think health care reform in the US was a good thing.. seriously, who defends the health insurance companies of their own free will (ie, if you're not a lobbyist for one, or working for one?)

It seems to me the amount of hate in "normal people" in the US against health insurance companies the last 15 years has been just unbelievable... OK anecdotal evidence, but I mean, almost everyone who has health insurance seems to be very unhappy.

The whole idea is alien if you grew up with state run health care. It feels as alien as, say, individuals paying National Defense and Police Insurance to private companies in order to get a functioning police and military.

[ And if you have a pre-existing border dispute it won't be covered :lol: ]



(I'm not saying it's exactly the same thing as national defense.)

I have a feeling the republicans are very scared that the general public will like the new system with a "why was this obstructed for 50 years... what was the big deal?"

6) this thread is the #3 result when you google for SA 3556 .. of course the subject heading shows up in google as well.. :lol:

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Post by ggonza43 » Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:27 am

Look how serious this has turned that even JJ came to discuss. LOOK WHAT WE HAVE DONE :lol:! (or at least miditek has)
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Post by AGAG » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:17 am

Where's number 5? :cry: that's my favorite number... it means so much to me I might get depression because of it's abscence :(
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Post by Rebel » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:21 am

JensJohansson wrote:1) I would probably classify as a liberal but not necessarily a pedocrat :lol:

2) I still laugh at these words: pedocrat, Hillary Klingon, Nazi Pelosi, Arafart, Obamao.

3) Don't fret fundamentally about the US, the US has survived a lot of strange things and will still be there for many generations after we are gone ..
I'm not so sure. I'm an ardent believer that problems change very little from generation to generation, and that the same problems tend to repeat themselves, but the two party system has reached the endgame, Political Parties (and their voters) have fundamentally changed since the 1950s.
As have moderates.
4) I think health care reform in the US was a good thing.. seriously, who defends the health insurance companies of their own free will (ie, if you're not a lobbyist for one, or working for one?)
Propaganda mixed with voters more resembling fans than supporters of an ideology
It seems to me the amount of hate in "normal people" in the US against health insurance companies the last 15 years has been just unbelievable... OK anecdotal evidence, but I mean, almost everyone who has health insurance seems to be very unhappy.

The whole idea is alien if you grew up with state run health care. It feels as alien as, say, individuals paying National Defense and Police Insurance to private companies in order to get a functioning police and military.

[ And if you have a pre-existing border dispute it won't be covered :lol: ]



(I'm not saying it's exactly the same thing as national defense.)

I have a feeling the republicans are very scared that the general public will like the new system with a "why was this obstructed for 50 years... what was the big deal?"

6) this thread is the #3 result when you google for SA 3556 .. of course the subject heading shows up in google as well.. :lol:
God I love this forum.

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Post by miditek » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:39 am

JensJohansson wrote:1) I would probably classify as a liberal but not necessarily a pedocrat :lol:
I have friends that are over thirty, forty, and even a few over fifty- and they are still liberal- I'm trying to lead them out of the wilderness, so to speak. :lol:
JensJohansson wrote:2) I still laugh at these words: pedocrat, Hillary Klingon, Nazi Pelosi, Arafart, Obamao.
Political humor is one of my favorite types of comedy. Do you remember "Ron Headrest" from Doonesbury in the late '80s? Garry Trudeau had drawn this caricature that was a composite of Max Headroom, the wisecracking CGI TV character, and President Reagan. It was hilarious, and I'm still laughing at it over 20 years later! :D

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JensJohansson wrote:3) Don't fret fundamentally about the US, the US has survived a lot of strange things and will still be there for many generations after we are gone ..
I honestly wish that I could agree with you on that point, however, you're pretty familiar with my eschatological beliefs- particularly the part that that the end will most likely come in our generation.
JensJohansson wrote:4) I think health care reform in the US was a good thing.. seriously, who defends the health insurance companies of their own free will (ie, if you're not a lobbyist for one, or working for one?)


Part of the problem of HR 4872 "Obamacare" is that little or nothing was done to address the major problem that the insurance industry has become a cartel within each state, or in other words, you can't buy health insurance across state lines. The only exception to this particular rule is that if the corporate headquarters of your employer is in another state.

For instance, let's say that you're a programmer and work for Unum Insurance in their Bangor, Maine regional office. You would still be covered by the Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Tennessee policy that your employer has purchased since Unum's corporate headquarters is in Chattanooga.

There are lots of other stupid things that went on in HR 4872, such as not wanting to have drug companies bid for Medicare contracts, for instance, and that means that the drug companies can continue to screw Medicare- i.e., the taxpayers, on prescription drug costs.

Wal-Mart, on the other hand, used their purchasing agent Nazis to beat the drug companies down on costs(by offering them long term multi-billion dollar contracts which = steady, predictable revenue for decades)in exchange for making the most 100 or so commonly prescribed drugs extremely inexpensive. When I was taking Paxil, I was able to get a month's supply for something like seven or eight dollars.

Not a perfect solution, but Wal-Mart on it's own, and with no legislation did far more for their customers by making commonly prescribed meds significantly more affordable than the 535 dickheads in Congress ever did or ever will.

The medical device manufacturers just got hit with a tax (which they of course, will pass down to their customers) for opposing ObamaCare. So again, government meddling and favor peddling just screwed the American taxpayer again- AND- and at our own expense, of course. This means that grandma or grandpa will now have to pay quite a bit more to rent a nebulizer to use at home for breathing treatments. So much for lower costs!

The American Bar Association was also exempted once again from tort reform of any sort, and there are lawyers that I am acquainted with right here in my city that went out and got drunk to celebrate! They gleefully chase ambulances, and shake down doctors and hospitals and get rich off of it while the patient gets very little, and then the rest of us end up having to pay even higher costs for doctors, and hospital visits. Obamacare strikes again!

To add still further injury to insult, the White House as well as Congress are -exempt- from having to purchase insurance from the same 'product pools' that they are imposing upon the rest of us, so they get to keep their 'Cadillac' health plans, oh, and they also exempted themselves from the "Cadillac Health Plan Tax" (of course). Oh, and by the way, Congress just voted itself a $15,000 dollar cost of living increase.
JensJohansson wrote:It seems to me the amount of hate in "normal people" in the US against health insurance companies the last 15 years has been just unbelievable... OK anecdotal evidence, but I mean, almost everyone who has health insurance seems to be very unhappy.


Indeed they are! Look at all of the ridiculous bullshit in HR 4872 (just check my summary, but if you really want to read the 2,500+ pages of the law, be my guest!) Also, there is a great deal of Medicare fraud that goes on- it's quite profitable, and most never get caught- and the ones that do made a killing and can afford to sit in jail for five years since they'll be rich when they get out. Let's throw 20 million or more illegals into the mix, and we are looking at a great deal of indigent care- the illegals don't pay a dime. Who pays? That's right- the taxpayer via higher taxes, and the insurance policyholder via higher premiums, and the employer via higher employer contributions to the policy.

I have a friend/former client that was really depressed about 5 years ago when he was going over the insurance renewal bids for his small company. $100,000 a year for his 25 person company. The bids from five or six different carriers were almost identical- like a fucking cartel!

And that was just the employer's contribution. At the time, the employee's contribution for a family policy was about $800 per month, which of course, is over $1,000 per month now- and climbing. Again, someone has to pay- and fewer payments means less medical professionals available to treat patients and fewer hospital beds available to treat sick people. It's really as simple as that- and no amount of laws can change the laws of supply and demand.
JensJohansson wrote:I have a feeling the republicans are very scared that the general public will like the new system with a "why was this obstructed for 50 years... what was the big deal?"


Trust me, that's the farthest thing from their minds. If that were actually true, there would be broad bi-partisan support, but the numbers simply don't add up. What are seeing is massive power grabs- first the bank bailouts, then the Detroit bailouts, and now national health care. If there is no incentives/rewards for hard work, then innovation and efficiency will soon be gone forever from this country. Then the US will begin to slide into Brezhnevanomics- stagnation, and more despair.
JensJohansson wrote:6) this thread is the #3 result when you google for SA 3556 .. of course the subject heading shows up in google as well.. :lol:
A great way to drive traffic to the site, without having to pay Google's "per click" fees! :lol:
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Post by Rebel » Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:07 am

miditek wrote: Trust me, that's the farthest thing from their minds. If that were actually true, there would be broad bi-partisan support, but the numbers simply don't add up. What are seeing is massive power grabs- first the bank bailouts, then the Detroit bailouts, and now national health care. If there is no incentives/rewards for hard work, then innovation and efficiency will soon be gone forever from this country. Then the US will begin to slide into Brezhnevanomics- stagnation, and more despair.
JensJohansson wrote:6) this thread is the #3 result when you google for SA 3556 .. of course the subject heading shows up in google as well.. :lol:
A great way to drive traffic to the site, without having to pay Google's "per click" fees! :lol:
All in all, I enjoyed the post, for once, something well thought out, and I agreed with some parts, like trading across state lines.

But, before you insult my city. Let it be known that the Automakers have excellent credit with the government, and both companies are back on track to be extremely successful and are paying off their loans with interest. From what I understand, the banks are as well, but with a lot more kicking and screaming, and a lot less innovation to repair problems.

To put it bluntly. I never thought I'd see a car lot that couldn't get enough Buicks.

However, Republicans have their hands tied right now. There was a day in age in politics when promising your irrationally conservative voterbase that "You'd make sure the faggots didn't get married" was enough to solidify your base while you used effective policies to go after moderates.

Then the Teabaggers came into play, and that fat 40 year old woman with 5 kids who thinks Jesus personally told George W. Bush to go to war in Iraq, well, she's pissed off enough to notice that the Republicans are "Allying with the enemy" by taking moderate stances when they're necessary. She believes that we need to destroy every form of federal government we can, save for the military. John McCain tried to ignore this, trusting that the base would stick with him. It didn't. In fact, they left in such droves that he had to pick a Vice President as mentally unstable and incompetent as they were. Sarah Palin. A desperate attempt to save a dying election that had farther reaching consequences, because it empowered the tea-baggers. Now it's even more difficult for Republicans to make decisions from a moderate standpoint.

Politics is most efficient when your 33% votes with you without question, the other 33% would never consider voting for you, and the remaining 34% elects whatever politician they believe is the most reasonable and moderate. When you have to overcompensate for an unsatisfied base, your entire operation becomes crippled.

Also, the concept of the young liberal old conservative is based on an uninterrupted progression of social change. Look at culture, and America, as, generally speaking, something on a treadmill. Every generation brings its progress, its new ideas, and changes. It accomplishes these goals, and is happy. The generation fought hard for these, and does not wish to see them erased by time. So when the next new generation comes along, it will create an opposition to the "newness", believing that the fights they fought in their youth were either lost for a reason, or won as the best society can do. After 50-60 years, they're comfortable, and the greater resistance they create, the more they polarize the younger generation (Either disheartened by losses or emboldened by victories).

The progress of culture doesn't care though, because as emotionally charged as the battles may be, everything is always moving in the same direction.

And although each generation is culturally different, that base conflict is the same that has repeated itself time and time again, only, in the eyes of an individual generation, the cultural differences prevent real understanding of their parents or their children. It's the same problems over and over.

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Post by miditek » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:18 am

This just in from LiveLeak----- :lol:

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Post by NeonVomit » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:47 am

He's just happy because he gets to make another Supreme Court nomination!
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Post by Rebel » Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:25 am

:lol: :lol: No, but he should be.

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Post by ggonza43 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:26 pm

I'd always said Obama looks just like my brother :D
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Post by miditek » Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:57 am

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I wonder if SA 3556 has anything in it about weed for medical purposes? :lol:
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Post by browneyedgirl » Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:15 am

Looks like a regular 'ol cigarette to me. ???
Speaking of which, cigs are Obama's weakness. Its said he is quite a heavy smoker. He will quit awhile, then goes back to them. I guess that makes him human. Bush loved his beer, Clinton loved his bush ;) and Obama loves cigarettes. >shrugs<

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Post by ggonza43 » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:51 pm

browneyedgirl wrote:Bush loved his beer, Clinton loved his bush ;) and Obama loves cigarettes. >shrugs<
Nice chain :D
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