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Setlist:

[Everything Fades To Gray]
Flag In The Ground
The Last Amazing Grays
Juliet
Replica
Blank File
As If The World Wasn't Ending
Paid in Full
Victoria's Secret
Instrumental Paté
The Misery
FullMoon
In Black and White

Mary-Lou [acoustic]
Shy [acoustic]
Letter to Dana [acoustic]

Caleb
Tallulah
Don't Say A Word
Vodka (Hava Nagila)
Everything Fades To Gray (Outro)

Some Videos:
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were the rumors about Jani making an appearance true? Because if not, I don't care.

Rebel wrote:were the rumors about Jani making an appearance true? Because if not, I don't care.

No
They were bullshit from the beginning.

About the setlist: I am pretty much disappointed. They have lots of fresh songs they could have played but they chose to do the same as always.
I have never been a fan of Blank File and oly Paid in Full and In Black and White from Unia... Bah. (E: oh the setlist was cut in parts so that means + Caleb which is awesome)

I just hope the performance is good. Tony really nailed For the Sake of Revenge but he has had his bad days. This is also a chance for Elias to show his skills.

Rebel wrote:Jani making an appearance

Oh and look people, more videos

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I cannot wait for this to come out!

yeah the set list is quite boring, but Im still diggin sonata

Unia and Days of Grays are boring albums for me. They should play old good songs from their discography. And don't misunderstand, I also like progressive influenced metal, but progressive Sonata is boring for me.

TwilightEagle wrote:Unia and Days of Grays are boring albums for me. They should play old good songs from their discography. And don't misunderstand, I also like progressive influenced metal, but progressive Sonata is boring for me.

Actually, the album that has most songs in this setlist, is Ecliptica.... 5 so shut up

LOL! You're crazy SNAKE.

TwilightEagle wrote:Unia and Days of Grays are boring albums for me. They should play old good songs from their discography. And don't misunderstand, I also like progressive influenced metal, but progressive Sonata is boring for me.

those two albums are alot more interesting than their old stuff. Their older stuff i think is kinda boring

When Jani left, the band lost their edge, tDoG could have been the best SA album yet if there had been the presence that JL brought, but instead, Elias Viljanen just farted through the album and added absolutely nothing, leaving the entire thing flat and a massive disappointment.

Rebel wrote:Elias Viljanen just farted through the album.

LOL! You mean wanked throughout the album? I'll put on old Sonata for power metal, newer Sonata when I want to hear something different.

HinatAArcticA wrote:

TwilightEagle wrote:Unia and Days of Grays are boring albums for me. They should play old good songs from their discography. And don't misunderstand, I also like progressive influenced metal, but progressive Sonata is boring for me.

Actually, the album that has most songs in this setlist, is Ecliptica.... 5 so shut up

Yeah but some of Days of Grays songs in the setlist are so boring, that they'll ruin the whole setlist.

When Jani left, the band lost their edge, tDoG could have been the best SA album yet if there had been the presence that JL brought, but instead, Elias Viljanen just farted through the album and added absolutely nothing, leaving the entire thing flat and a massive disappointment.

For me Days of Grays isn't bad because of Elias. If Jani would play on it, the album would be still boring.

TwilightEagle wrote:

HinatAArcticA wrote:

TwilightEagle wrote:Unia and Days of Grays are boring albums for me. They should play old good songs from their discography. And don't misunderstand, I also like progressive influenced metal, but progressive Sonata is boring for me.

Actually, the album that has most songs in this setlist, is Ecliptica.... 5 so shut up

Yeah but some of Days of Grays songs in the setlist are so boring, that they'll ruin the whole setlist.

When Jani left, the band lost their edge, tDoG could have been the best SA album yet if there had been the presence that JL brought, but instead, Elias Viljanen just farted through the album and added absolutely nothing, leaving the entire thing flat and a massive disappointment.

For me Days of Grays isn't bad because of Elias. If Jani would play on it, the album would be still boring.

No, because Jani had a habit of laughing at whatever guitar parts Tony wrote and playing whatever the fuck he wanted (Which, given the results when Elias played what he was told, obviously meant Jani's way was better)

Rebel wrote:

TwilightEagle wrote:

HinatAArcticA wrote:

TwilightEagle wrote:Unia and Days of Grays are boring albums for me. They should play old good songs from their discography. And don't misunderstand, I also like progressive influenced metal, but progressive Sonata is boring for me.

Actually, the album that has most songs in this setlist, is Ecliptica.... 5 so shut up

Yeah but some of Days of Grays songs in the setlist are so boring, that they'll ruin the whole setlist.

When Jani left, the band lost their edge, tDoG could have been the best SA album yet if there had been the presence that JL brought, but instead, Elias Viljanen just farted through the album and added absolutely nothing, leaving the entire thing flat and a massive disappointment.

For me Days of Grays isn't bad because of Elias. If Jani would play on it, the album would be still boring.

No, because Jani had a habit of laughing at whatever guitar parts Tony wrote and playing whatever the fuck he wanted (Which, given the results when Elias played what he was told, obviously meant Jani's way was better)

It's true, that Jani is a better guitar player, than Elias, but the songs on Days of Grays are still boring, no matter, who plays the guitar parts. It's true, that Days of Grays guitar parts would be better, if Jani would have played them, but I don't think, that Jani would conjure the boring Days of Grays songs into quality Power Metal like Sonata did on their earlier albums.

they should play all the albums through and let people pick different packages from all to custom.

Rebel wrote: No, because Jani had a habit of laughing at whatever guitar parts Tony wrote and playing whatever the fuck he wanted (Which, given the results when Elias played what he was told, obviously meant Jani's way was better)

Actually is the other way arround
Tony said in an interview. He said that he respects Elias vey much. He recorded the guitar alone and Tony wouldn't bother him. He said that there are parts that he wanted to sound on a particular way, but that for other parts, he let Elias do whatever he wanted. Jani would only do what Tony told him. Do you even know what you are talking about? Or are you just one of those JL Fanboys who deffend him just BECAUSE.

TwilightEagle wrote:Quality Power Metal like Sonata did on their earlier albums.

What year are you living in? 2000?
Tony said it once. Ecliptica and Silence were albums he made at a time where he wanted to be like Stratovarius. The demos that leaked out recently are not even power metal. They didn't start playing power metal. Check those demos. The Sonata you hear now, is not a Strato-clone Sonata. Is a much more honest, true, and mature Sonata Arctica. They don't want to sound like Strato anymore. They got over it. Can you?
Also, check this out...

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Nothing More is sooooo Reckoning Night...
Isn't that what you Ecliptica fanboys wanted?
You did know that song, right?

Not that good setlist, obviously missing The Cage. Other songs I would've loved if they included are It Won't Fade, Gravenimage and, even though they pretty much never play it live, White Pearl, Black Ocean. :[]

Balu wrote:Not that good setlist, obviously missing The Cage. Other songs I would've loved if they included are It Won't Fade, Gravenimage and, even though they pretty much never play it live, White Pearl, Black Ocean. :[]

I wanted Deathaura, and my bro wanted Land of the Free

I guess not everybody can be pleased.
Supposedly, they will add some songs (or most songs) from the Sonata Arctica open air show they gave in 2009.

The press release of the DVD they gave last year said the whole thing, but it would be repeating some songs from Oulu. My guess is that they will add songs that were not played in the Oulu setlist. The setlist from the Sonata Arctica Open Air was...

Main:
Paid in Full
8th Commandment
Caleb
Replica
The Last Amazing Grays
Black Sheep
The Cage
FullMoon
White Pearl, Black Oceans
Tallulah
Flag In The Ground
In Black and White

Encore:
Draw Me
National Finnish Anthem
Don't Say A Word
Vodka (Hava Nagila)

It will be a very complete DVD
It will blow everything away, I know it

Also...
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Some good song choices but there's a few that are already on For the Sake of Revenge.. And no White Pearl? Aww fuck.

Anyways, i'll buy it and love it like the Sonata-fanboy that i am.

I had posted a wrong setlist. It's now fixed, and there is White Pearl, Black Oceans

Good!

from unia i dont give a shit about sonata arctica.....

Yeah, although Unia is their best album. And no it isn't a matter of taste it's a fact.

Kosmo wrote:Yeah, although Unia is their best album. And no it isn't a matter of taste it's a fact.

Musically only...
Reckoning Night is my favorite

What year are you living in? Confused 2000?
Tony said it once. Ecliptica and Silence were albums he made at a time where he wanted to be like Stratovarius. The demos that leaked out recently are not even power metal. They didn't start playing power metal. Check those demos. The Sonata you hear now, is not a Strato-clone Sonata. Is a much more honest, true, and mature Sonata Arctica. They don't want to sound like Strato anymore. They got over it. Can you?
Also, check this out...

I'm not living 2000, but I'm living 2011. I haven't heard the early demos, but the "Strato clone" albums sounds far more better, than the new Prog like Sonata. No matter if they copy Strato or how they sounded on their early demos.

Isn't that what you Ecliptica fanboys wanted?

No. At least in my case.

You did know that song, right?

No I didn't.

I have a debt with SA: After I listened Sing in Silence I stopped doing pot!

Smoke pee everyday!!!!

strato clone or not, ecliptica is a classic, and the songs had passed the test of time by far., I also loved silence and winterhearts guild, even reckoning night is awesome, only unia and daysofgays are dull and stupids albums., if that is the price of being honest, then dont be.

and yeah the set list should be picked up by the fans in some internet pole. and the should play ecliptica entirely.

WinterBlack wrote:I have a debt with SA: After I listened Sing in Silence I stopped doing pot!

...why?