Dream Theater - A Dramatic Turn of Events (new album)

[RazielSR]

On The Back Of Angels: http://youtu.be/oasnbzEMV08


Sounds really classic DT. What a wonderful song. It's clear that they want to use again their most proggy side. It reminds a lot I&W-Awake-SFAM. This song could have been in some of that albums without problem.

[pneumonia]

Yes, and finally the keyboard is more important like on Octavarium. I must listen few times to say something more, but after 2 listenings to I can only say that A Dramatic Turn of Events surely will be certainly good.

[robocop656]

This was my face when I saw the album cover:

[NeonVomit]

The song is pretty good at a first listen... which is encouraging considering it's over 8 minutes long.

If I hadn't known that Mangini replaced Portnoy, I'd never be able to tell.

[AAAAAAAAAA]

This was my face when I saw the album cover:

Actually it was a pretty good song!
Looking forward to hearing the rest of the album.

[Rebel]

that. was. terrible.
LaBrie's performance was AWFUL, and the composition was the same damn thing I've heard on the last 3 albums. ENOUGH

[AAAAAAAAAA]

that. was. terrible.
LaBrie's performance was AWFUL, and the composition was the same damn thing I've heard on the last 3 albums. ENOUGH

At least we don't have Mike Portnoy's obnoxious backing vocals or atrocious lyrics...

Anyway, its not Images&Words, but its a step in the right direction...I don't hear anything so far that sounds like "Forsaken" or "Dark Eternal Night" :repuke:

[RazielSR]

that. was. terrible.
LaBrie's performance was AWFUL, and the composition was the same damn thing I've heard on the last 3 albums. ENOUGH

This was my face when I was reading your post:





I will never understand your Porpucine Tree love and your DT hate.

Seriously, are you deaf? How can someone say it sounds the same like the last album? for me BC&SL it's a wonderful album, but to say this sounds the same and that Labrie's performance sounds awful is just.. You can say you like it or not, but your statement is just... not normal

And please, yes...enough from you talking about DT cause you never say a word based in real facts when talking about DT, you are always talking about what the band should be in your mind and the rest is all shit. Man, take a breath and stop listening DT! It's not that difficult! It will be better for your health and convictions.


About the song, I like a lot as I said and what It's more clear is that the drums are not mixed that loud like in the last albums, sounds more like I&W-Awake-SFAM era drums. The bass is here again and Rudess is just amazing.

[robocop656]

that. was. terrible.
LaBrie's performance was AWFUL, and the composition was the same damn thing I've heard on the last 3 albums. ENOUGH

This was my face when I was reading your post:





I will never understand your Porpucine Tree love and your DT hate.

Seriously, are you deaf? How can someone say it sounds the same like the last album? for me BC&SL it's a wonderful album, but to say this sounds the same and that Labrie's performance sounds awful is just.. You can say you like it or not, but your statement is just... not normal

And please, yes...enough from you talking about DT cause you never say a word based in real facts when talking about DT, you are always talking about what the band should be in your mind and the rest is all shit. Man, take a breath and stop listening DT! It's not that difficult! It will be better for your health and convictions.


About the song, I like a lot as I said and what It's more clear is that the drums are not mixed that loud like in the last albums, sounds more like I&W-Awake-SFAM era drums. The bass is here again and Rudess is just amazing.

[RazielSR]

[RazielSR]

Promo pictures -> http://imageshack.us/g/856/rickwennernycdreamtheat.jpg/

http://blog.rickwenner.com/music/dream- ... y-studios/

[Balu]

that. was. terrible.
LaBrie's performance was AWFUL, and the composition was the same damn thing I've heard on the last 3 albums. ENOUGH

This was my face when I was reading your post:





I will never understand your Porpucine Tree love and your DT hate.

Seriously, are you deaf? How can someone say it sounds the same like the last album? for me BC&SL it's a wonderful album, but to say this sounds the same and that Labrie's performance sounds awful is just.. You can say you like it or not, but your statement is just... not normal

And please, yes...enough from you talking about DT cause you never say a word based in real facts when talking about DT, you are always talking about what the band should be in your mind and the rest is all shit. Man, take a breath and stop listening DT! It's not that difficult! It will be better for your health and convictions.


About the song, I like a lot as I said and what It's more clear is that the drums are not mixed that loud like in the last albums, sounds more like I&W-Awake-SFAM era drums. The bass is here again and Rudess is just amazing.

The only thing I don't agree about is Rudess. Hell, I think he's the weakest part of DT. No idea why people usually don't like Labrie.


The song was mediocre, I expected more.

[adrian9]

that. was. terrible.
LaBrie's performance was AWFUL, and the composition was the same damn thing I've heard on the last 3 albums. ENOUGH

This was my face when I was reading your post:





I will never understand your Porpucine Tree love and your DT hate.

Seriously, are you deaf? How can someone say it sounds the same like the last album? for me BC&SL it's a wonderful album, but to say this sounds the same and that Labrie's performance sounds awful is just.. You can say you like it or not, but your statement is just... not normal

And please, yes...enough from you talking about DT cause you never say a word based in real facts when talking about DT, you are always talking about what the band should be in your mind and the rest is all shit. Man, take a breath and stop listening DT! It's not that difficult! It will be better for your health and convictions.


About the song, I like a lot as I said and what It's more clear is that the drums are not mixed that loud like in the last albums, sounds more like I&W-Awake-SFAM era drums. The bass is here again and Rudess is just amazing.

The only thing I don't agree about is Rudess. Hell, I think he's the weakest part of DT. No idea why people usually don't like Labrie.


The song was mediocre, I expected more.

Rudess is the weakest part of DT---......that sentence bro shall remain in infamy for eons.

[pneumonia]

That is what I love in music (art generally): those extremely different opinions :)

But let's talk about facts not tastes:
- this song is different that last 3 albums. I don't agree with Rebel. Of course U can critisice, but it is not similar, the form of this is very similar to Pull Me Under (intro, riff, staccato keyboards) and it is rather next I&W than Systematic Chaos.
- one song is too little to say something about direction of band, their condition, about Mangini, etc., but in my opinion it will be without nu-metal, industrial influences, that perhaps Portnoy gave into Dream Theater on albums from ToT to BC&SL

Now let's talk about tastes:
- "Rudess is the weakest link" - hmmm... I prefer Moore and Sherinian, but Rudess has great sounds of his keys, if you listen to O.S.I. (Moore project - the CD is wonderful), you will hear, that Moore uses a lot of same patterns, which makes each song similar. Rudess is also quite courageous using very dance music leads (like Jens sometimes), but musically I think he is not as talented as Kevin.
- "James LB voice is awful" - it is very controversial, I think he is much better here than on ToT or Systematic Chaos. In fact many progressive bands (including Porcupine Tree -which I really like) has almost the same character of vocals and in paradoxally nowadays JLB voice is even more fresh than in the beginning of 90s, where everyone (includin JLB) were copying Bruce Dickinson
In this piece - which I think is the most "commercial" song of the album, vocals are a bit monotonic, but it is usually in single releases. I hope on the rest of the album he will show a wider range
- and Rebel IHMO ToT was a good but not great release (in my taste it was too "heavy metal"), but Octavarium was a killer album, SC very mediocre (Dark Eternal Night), but BC&SL I loved (except Rite of Passage)
- to Balu:if this song is mediocre, show me a song released in the last year which was great. I don't want to argue with you, but i'm curious about your opinion. Seriously
- I can't wait to the concert in my home city in July and they are playing with Amplifier (check their new album:Octopus - it is worth listening)
- last but least: the mix is great, but the mastering overcompressed (in Europe people compress little lighter)

Have a nice day(evening)!

[Balu]

@adrian: Why, who else? It's either him or Myung, but while Myung does nothing truly outstanding, I don't have any complaints about him either, but I do about Rudess.

@pneumonia: Great song? Hard one, I tend to rate albums as a whole. My favorite albums so far were Strato - Elysium; Falconer - Armod; Devin Townsend Project - Deconstruction; and SX - Iconoclast will probably be up there after a few more listens. These all have far better songs than this one - title track (at least, but for me, most of the songs) on Elysium, Svarta Änkan on Armod (but again, I enjoy all of them more), and Planet of the Apes and The Mighty Masturbator were outstandingly amazing on Decon.

[NeonVomit]

OF COURSE THERE ARE OBJECTIVE RIGHTS AND WRONGS IN ART AND PERSONAL TASTES THIS IS WHY EVERYONE LISTENS TO THE SAME MUSIC RIGHT

[icecab21]

OF COURSE THERE ARE OBJECTIVE RIGHTS AND WRONGS IN ART AND PERSONAL TASTES

just listen to the last three Rebel albums where he shows everyone how it's done right

[robocop656]

[RazielSR]

The best thing of this song for me is that I can't almost remember a line or a chorus. That's what I look for in DT. Songs that even being singles, you need a lot of listens to get in and fully appreciate. I don't want typical singles that you forget in one week. The song is more instrumental oriented than vocal, and LaBrie does not sound like the "bad guy", he is extremely good when singing in a melodic way.

I'm really looking forward to this album, it will be plenty of good moments for sure.

[AGAG]

This is the only statement I agree with in this whole thread.

[AAAAAAAAAA]

This is the only statement I agree with in this whole thread.

I find the circumcision objectionable.

[Rebel]

OF COURSE THERE ARE OBJECTIVE RIGHTS AND WRONGS IN ART AND PERSONAL TASTES

just listen to the last three Rebel albums where he shows everyone how it's done right

progressive metal done right from 2009-2011, off the top of my head
O.S.I.- Blood
Jolly- The Audio Guide to Happiness Pt. I
Sun Caged- The Lotus Effect

[pneumonia]

It's hard to compare O.S.I and DT. Although Blood is great I feel it's almost other genre than DT. But as a listener I need both bands, because they play completely different music

The rest I haven't heard, but maybe I'll try.

[icecab21]

progressive metal done right from 2009-2011, off the top of my head
O.S.I.- Blood
Jolly- The Audio Guide to Happiness Pt. I
Sun Caged- The Lotus Effect

Can you give some bands where you think their last three albums, or three albums in a row, have been progressive metal done right?

[Balu]

progressive metal done right from 2009-2011, off the top of my head
O.S.I.- Blood
Jolly- The Audio Guide to Happiness Pt. I
Sun Caged- The Lotus Effect

Can you give some bands where you think their last three albums, or three albums in a row, have been progressive metal done right?

Wasn't directed at me, but since I've been pretty critical of DT, I'll answer too. Plus, I like postcount.
Anyway, if you want a more 'classical' approach to progressive metal, Shadow Gallery's albums, with the exception of the first, are all of really high quality. If you're open to some more experimentation, all of Devin Townsend's metal albums are excellent. :>

[Rebel]

OF COURSE THERE ARE OBJECTIVE RIGHTS AND WRONGS IN ART AND PERSONAL TASTES

just listen to the last three Rebel albums where he shows everyone how it's done right

progressive metal done right from 2009-2011, off the top of my head
O.S.I.- Blood
Jolly- The Audio Guide to Happiness Pt. I
Sun Caged- The Lotus Effect

Umm. Porcupine Tree's last 4 have been excellent. Theocracy is at a strong 2 for 2, but they have power metal influence.

[NeverendingAbyss]

This is the only statement I agree with in this whole thread.

I find the circumcision objectionable.

I disagree. I think it has a good stand.

[Balu]

OF COURSE THERE ARE OBJECTIVE RIGHTS AND WRONGS IN ART AND PERSONAL TASTES

just listen to the last three Rebel albums where he shows everyone how it's done right

progressive metal done right from 2009-2011, off the top of my head
O.S.I.- Blood
Jolly- The Audio Guide to Happiness Pt. I
Sun Caged- The Lotus Effect

Umm. Porcupine Tree's last 4 have been excellent. Theocracy is at a strong 2 for 2, but they have power metal influence.

PT's last wasn't great, Theocracy are excellent, but neither one is prog metal.

[icecab21]

so pt last 4?
what was your measure of how metal an album is?

[Rebel]

so pt last 4?
what was your measure of how metal an album is?

Difficult question, and Porcupine Tree pushes that barrier sometimes. In Absentia was clearly metal, as was Deadwing. Fear of a Blank Planet is maybe less metal, and The Incident sort of floats back and forth between very heavy and very prog. I'm not pretending Prog Metal is easy to pull off, and so it frustrates me when Dream Theater CLEARLY has the talent to do it, but they're just so complacent.