OBAMA vs BOEHNER???

[DAYR TAKIN MA RIGHTS]

25 ILLUMINATI PRINCIPLES! A MUST READ!

The Illuminati was founded in Europe on the same day as America, just before the declaration of Independence on May 1st 1776 by Adam Weishaupt, at the request of the Rothschild family who commissioned Weishaupt for the task in 1773. The Thule society of (which Adolf Hitler was a member) was the German branch of the Illuminati. The American branch is the “Skull & Bones” society at Yale (of which both Bush 1 and Bush 2 are members.)

In 2006, the Illuminati’s “main social event” is when they meet every year in July at a Californian Redwood Forest called “The Bohemian Grove” for their “Summer Fire Festival” where they engage in bizarre, Druidic rituals involving “mock” child sacrifice at the base of a 45 foot stone owl god thought to be a derivation of the ancient deity of fire and sacrifice known as Molech (you’ll find this guy in the bible and it’s not a pretty description.)but more accurately reflects an ongoing continuation of the Cult of Minerva. This ceremony and its elite participants has been well documented on the Alex Jones Video “Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove”
During these 2 week long July festivals they engage in homosexual acts, discuss world politics, decide on policies and in which direction the world should go, all in an atmosphere of ritual and revelry. The Bohemian Club proudly boasts that the Manhattan Project was first conceived at the grove.
The main ceremony is the opening event which is known as “the Cremation of Care.” Females are strictly forbidden at Bohemian Grove.

At its founding, the Illuminati embraced 25 principle goals and ideals:

1. All men are more easily inclined towards evil than good.
2. Preach Liberalism
3. Use the idea of freedom to bring about ‘class wars’
4. Any and all means should be used to reach the Illuminati Goals as they are justified.
5. The right to lie in force.
6. The power of our resources must remain invisible until the very moment it has gained the strength that no cunning or force can undermine it.
7. Avocation of mob psychology to control the masses.
8. Use alcohol, drugs, corruption and all forms of vice to systematically corrupt the youth of the nation.
9. Seize property by any means
10. Use of slogans such as equity, liberty, fraternity delivered into the mouths of the masses in psychological warfare
11. War should be directed so that the nations on both sides are placed further in debt and peace conferences conducted so that neither combatant obtains territory rights.
12. Members must use their wealth to have candidates chosen and placed in public office who will be obedient to their demands and will be used as pawns in the game by those behind the scenes. Their advisors will have been reared and trained from childhood to rule the affairs of the world.
13. Control the press.
14. Agents will come forward after fermenting traumatic situations and appear to be the saviors of the masses.
15. Create industrial depression and financial panic, unemployment, hunger, shortage of food and use this to control the masses or mob and then use the mob to wipe out all those who stand in the way.
16. Infiltrate into the secret Freemasons to use them for Illuminati purposes.
17. Expound the value of systematic deception, use high sounding slogans and phrases and advocate lavish promises to the masses even though they cannot be kept.
18. Detail plans for resolutions, discuss the art of ‘street fighting’ which is necessary to bring the population into speedy subjection.
19. Use agents as advisors behind the scenes after wars and use secret diplomacy to gain control.
20. Establish huge monopolies that lean toward world government control.
21. Use high taxes and unfair competition to bring about economic ruin by control of raw materials. Organize agitation among the workers and subsidize their competitors.
22. Build up armaments with Police forces and Soldiers sufficient to protect our needs.
23. Members and leaders of the one world government would be appointed by the directors.
24. Infiltrate into all classes and levels of society and government for the purpose of fooling, bemusing and corrupting the youthful members of society by teaching them theories and principles that we know to be false.
25. National and International laws should be used to destroy civilization and enslave and control the people.

[J.S. Bach]

Sounds like that Vivaldi guy has gone nuts once more.

[Rebel]

For every "Republicans are Christian militant fanatics" there's a "Liberals are baby-killing socialists". If we just repeat silly things we heard somewhere, the whole discussion is meaningless.

If you really feel that way, you should substantiate your opinion with some real evidence. Here is the voters database of the US Congress. Of course, its a lot of information to sift through and much of it isn't really as political or dramatic as the issues we discuss.

I'm not saying, that all Republicans are "white Christian militant fanatics", but I'm talking about the some candidates, like Palin.

The one thing, which pisses my off with SOME Republicans, like Palin is it they think, that there's only one (or actually two ) religions which are the "real" ones and the others are "violent bullshit".

Is burning Korans a peaceful way, like the "redneck white Christians" are calling themselves and saying, that all Muslims are terrorists and militants and all Christians are peaceful?

I have nothing against any religion, but making the politics with the religion is the thing, what pissed me off. Same for both islamists and US redneck political Christians. Their goal is same, to control the society with the religion. It's their weapon. Example Palin and some other redneck Republicans wants to make the society more closed, militaristic and religious, not free and peaceful, like most of the European politicians do (if we don't count the extreme right populists). Of course SOME Democrats also do the same, but for me the Democrats are the "less worse" ones.

What is your opinion on the United Nations?

Why do ask this from me? Seriously, it's an important organization.

Well I ask because, if you know your history, the United Nations (And the league of nations, in its original form) was of course, the brainchild of United States president Woodrow Wilson. More than his political views, more than his election goals, more than any single concerns, the profound religious fervor of Wilson is what motivated him to his furious campaign for peace in the aftermath of World War I, and it was the points where the more vindictive, angry, and vengeful European Powers, as well as the politically motived, selfish American politicians took away from Wilson's plan that directly led to World War II

It was a different time in Europe. During WW2 there was nazism, fascism and communism rising in Europe and you know, that their goal is totalitarism, terror and victims. Today's Europe is huge different, than on that times, but there's some political forces, like far right populists and separatists who are trying to destroy the free and peaceful Europe. Even it's true, that separatists have been made more terror, than the islamists in Europe, although the far right populists are claiming, that every terror attack and the other problems are caused by Muslims.

There's a lot common between the European far right populists and the US "white redneck Christian" Republicans and especially the Tea Party and Palin. Both them are trying to make the society more closed, militaristic, nationalist and religious, actually just like in the Muslim countries, which they hate.

As to the juxtaposition between the Europe and the US, nowadays example the Great Britain is doing everything, what the white house says, especially in Bush's time, you know Blair and his doings.

My point was just it, that there's some Republicans, who are trying to make the society more closed, militaristic and religious, just like Bush did. They're justifying their politics by the religion, just like the islamists does. Example Palin or the other Christian far right Republicans would made it a lot worser way, than even Bush himself.

You are missing the point. What I'm saying is that the idea of "Keeping religion out of politics" is absurd.

[TwilightEagle]

For every "Republicans are Christian militant fanatics" there's a "Liberals are baby-killing socialists". If we just repeat silly things we heard somewhere, the whole discussion is meaningless.

If you really feel that way, you should substantiate your opinion with some real evidence. Here is the voters database of the US Congress. Of course, its a lot of information to sift through and much of it isn't really as political or dramatic as the issues we discuss.

I'm not saying, that all Republicans are "white Christian militant fanatics", but I'm talking about the some candidates, like Palin.

The one thing, which pisses my off with SOME Republicans, like Palin is it they think, that there's only one (or actually two ) religions which are the "real" ones and the others are "violent bullshit".

Is burning Korans a peaceful way, like the "redneck white Christians" are calling themselves and saying, that all Muslims are terrorists and militants and all Christians are peaceful?

I have nothing against any religion, but making the politics with the religion is the thing, what pissed me off. Same for both islamists and US redneck political Christians. Their goal is same, to control the society with the religion. It's their weapon. Example Palin and some other redneck Republicans wants to make the society more closed, militaristic and religious, not free and peaceful, like most of the European politicians do (if we don't count the extreme right populists). Of course SOME Democrats also do the same, but for me the Democrats are the "less worse" ones.

What is your opinion on the United Nations?

Why do ask this from me? Seriously, it's an important organization.

Well I ask because, if you know your history, the United Nations (And the league of nations, in its original form) was of course, the brainchild of United States president Woodrow Wilson. More than his political views, more than his election goals, more than any single concerns, the profound religious fervor of Wilson is what motivated him to his furious campaign for peace in the aftermath of World War I, and it was the points where the more vindictive, angry, and vengeful European Powers, as well as the politically motived, selfish American politicians took away from Wilson's plan that directly led to World War II

It was a different time in Europe. During WW2 there was nazism, fascism and communism rising in Europe and you know, that their goal is totalitarism, terror and victims. Today's Europe is huge different, than on that times, but there's some political forces, like far right populists and separatists who are trying to destroy the free and peaceful Europe. Even it's true, that separatists have been made more terror, than the islamists in Europe, although the far right populists are claiming, that every terror attack and the other problems are caused by Muslims.

There's a lot common between the European far right populists and the US "white redneck Christian" Republicans and especially the Tea Party and Palin. Both them are trying to make the society more closed, militaristic, nationalist and religious, actually just like in the Muslim countries, which they hate.

As to the juxtaposition between the Europe and the US, nowadays example the Great Britain is doing everything, what the white house says, especially in Bush's time, you know Blair and his doings.

My point was just it, that there's some Republicans, who are trying to make the society more closed, militaristic and religious, just like Bush did. They're justifying their politics by the religion, just like the islamists does. Example Palin or the other Christian far right Republicans would made it a lot worser way, than even Bush himself.

You are missing the point. What I'm saying is that the idea of "Keeping religion out of politics" is absurd.

Of course it's ok, that politics have mild religious themes, but some far right Christian Republicans, like Palin are trying to make the society more closed, militaristic and religious, as well as the Islamists, what they hate. They justifies this by the religion. But that's absurb, that they're saying, that all Muslims are violent, militaristic and totalitarian, but they're doing that same him/herself.

They think, that only good human being is a white Christian patriotic person and the whites are "better" people, than the blacks and the latins and Christians are better, than Muslims. If you're liberal, you don't think, that whites are better, than blacks and latins, you don't think, that Christians are better, than Muslim, you want to cut the military budget and you want to reduce the religion's magnitude in the society, you're a "liberal baby killer socialist communist".

I have nothing against any religion and I'm not an atheist, but usually politicians who has conservative religious themes usually spreads the message of hate and fear. Same for Islamists, Zionists and US white Christian rednecks.

Btw, is that (below) a message of freedom?



Or this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKUovpF9LWU

[AAAAAAAAAA]

My point was just it, that there's some Republicans, who are trying to make the society more closed, militaristic and religious, just like Bush did.

some far right Christian Republicans, like Palin are trying to make the society more closed, militaristic and religious.

Both them are trying to make the society more closed, militaristic, nationalist and religious

Example Palin and some other redneck Republicans wants to make the society more closed, militaristic and religious, not free and peaceful

You just keep repeating this over....and over...and over... :crazy1:

And even though I asked you (VERY nicely ), your only evidence is that you located a racist at a political rally.

[miditek]

My point was just it, that there's some Republicans, who are trying to make the society more closed, militaristic and religious, just like Bush did.

some far right Christian Republicans, like Palin are trying to make the society more closed, militaristic and religious.

Both them are trying to make the society more closed, militaristic, nationalist and religious

Example Palin and some other redneck Republicans wants to make the society more closed, militaristic and religious, not free and peaceful

You just keep repeating this over....and over...and over... :crazy1:

And even though I asked you (VERY nicely ), your only evidence is that you located a racist at a political rally.

The way he rants on and on about Palin, I'd almost think that he wanted to pork her or something.

[Jabi]

Well, I do think Palin looked pretty good back in the day.

[miditek]

Well, I do think Palin looked pretty good back in the day.

I'd hit it....and would be pretty fucking proud about it!


Meanwhile in Washington......

[AAAAAAAAAA]

The way he rants on and on about Palin, I'd almost think that he wanted to pork her or something.

Its also quite funny that the minute we asked TwilightEagle to back up his propaganda with facts, he totally disappeared.

[miditek]

The way he rants on and on about Palin, I'd almost think that he wanted to pork her or something.

Its also quite funny that the minute we asked TwilightEagle to back up his propaganda with facts, he totally disappeared.

I know! Haven't seen hide nor hair of that boy since you called him out.

He was starting to sound like a broken record- or some weird, Marxist Tolkki-bot!

[NeonVomit]

The way he rants on and on about Palin, I'd almost think that he wanted to pork her or something.

Its also quite funny that the minute we asked TwilightEagle to back up his propaganda with facts, he totally disappeared.

I know! Haven't seen hide nor hair of that boy since you called him out.

He was starting to sound like a broken record- or some weird, Marxist Tolkki-bot!

too... much... irony... head about... to... explode...

[browneyedgirl]

Sarah watches 3 Stooges too much, the male children in her family are named: Trig, Tripp, and Track. What's next, Trekkie?

I like that chicken graphic. Even many white people would fight over Kentucky Fried!

[miditek]

I like that chicken graphic. Even many white people would fight over Kentucky Fried!

I'm tellin' ya, YT takes his chicken seriously too!

Shit like this....





...will eventually lead to shit like that....

[Arnold Layne]

I dislike Africans. They take my chicken.

Arnold Layne