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I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 9:41 pm
by JensJohansson
But apparently not. Sharman Networks gave Google a DMCA notice regarding search results that Sharman feels infringe on its copyright in the "KAZAA" p2p application.

http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512/ ... ticeID=789

(I think this takes the cake as the greatest amount of hypocrisy I have ever seen exhibited in human behavior.. ever. And that really means something! :lol: )

Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 9:53 pm
by Benphu
Hi Jens!

Me neither I guess.

Maaaaannnn, that's soooooo
stupid!

Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 10:24 pm
by NatureSound
(don´t try to unencript :evilgrin: )

Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 1:29 am
by ladyofeternity
This world is full of hypocrisy :evilgrin:

Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 1:39 am
by Lucid Faia
Whaddup, Jens?

This isn't hypocritical... it's just plain stupid...

How ironic that the KAZAA people are upset about copyrights and trademarks.

Everybody point and laugh.

Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:58 am
by Regina
Me too.

I can´t believe this.

Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:54 am
by gerr
yea! really stupid and unnecessary, hehe yeah point and laugh, an illegal child calling his mama bcoz there are other illegal childs around :D :D

GERR

Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 4:56 am
by browneyedgirl
Its a case of the pot calling the kettle black.....
It takes one to know one.....
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones......

Any other sayings for hypocrisy that apply here? >=(

Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 5:13 am
by Lilith
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:...just that: :lol:

Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 1:16 pm
by Angel_of_Death
oh... Kazaa is angry about unauthorized copies... :D

Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 6:03 pm
by Lava
Hypocrisy and stupidity... Two things that I hate a lot!!! >=( :evilgrin: :buh:

Re: Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 6:22 pm
by Lightyear
browneyedgirl wrote:
Its a case of the pot calling the kettle black.....
It takes one to know one.....
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones......
Yeah! true!

It's like a bad joke!
I think Google shouldn't do anything, just ignore that "warning".
And why the hell hasn't anyone complained against Sharman Networks anyway ?! or have they ?!

Re: Re: Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 7:56 pm
by JensJohansson
"It's like a bad joke!
I think Google shouldn't do anything, just ignore that "warning".
And why the hell hasn't anyone complained against Sharman Networks anyway ?! or have they ?! "


Well, because DMCA is in force in the US, Google do what they always do (and what they have to do to be safe). They remove the links and inform chillingeffects, and then make a direct link there instead... making all the details of whoever complains public. Including the links of course. ;)

In many cases of course it makes the complainant look like a complete asshole. I think this all started with the Scientologists actually.

Some background info: the links that Sharman asked to have removed were all related to Kazaa Lite, which is an "unauthorized" version of kazaa with all the spyware and popup ads removed.

If you ever doubted that there was a hidden profit motive behind these supposedly "altruistic" p2p sharing schemes, this should be enough proof.

If you run normal Kazaa, Sharman basically is selling

* your personal information and clicking habits to marketers

* ads to advertisers (and they can do that with a guarantee of viewing!)

and they are using "shared" music ( = the labor of millions of unnamed musicians and composers) as the means to accomplish that.

Kazaa Lite, of course, is as good a p2p application as normal Kazaa -- actually, you can make the argument that it's a lot better from a technological standpoint.

The only thing "wrong" in the eyes of Sharman is that K-Lite is a direct attack on their profit making scheme.

And that is why they filed their DMCA complaint with google..

There has been a court decision against Sharman, but they were allowed to continue operating. I doubt that the last word has been said in the courts though.

One other thing -- it's of course not only music that's shared illegaly. A lot of money is being leeched out of the online porn industry. One wonders what countermeasures these unsavory people might think up. ;)

Another thing I saw recently s that the RIAA is using the "kiddie porn angle" to try to effect change in people's (and perhaps lawmakers') minds...

Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 8:47 am
by GreenPeace
No comments.
This is just too hypocritical to a human being, there must be an error in the universal makeup.
I mean it, Sherman networks have what brazilians call "cara de pau" (this can't be translated literally, but it means GREAT, PLAIN STUPIDITY AND NERVE)

Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 7:56 am
by Devil Kin
you'd be surprised at what else is going on... and at what other people are doing... this is just another "thing" to amaze us and remind us of the human stupidity

Re: Re: Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 1:57 pm
by Agent Orange
And to file charges against makers of derivatives of a program like this, is just plain hypocritical and stupid. If he wanted to prevent those programs from being made, he shouldn't have made such an 'evil' program to begin with! >=(

Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 4:13 pm
by Asshaul
Hi! Are you Jens? Really?

Re: Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 10:42 pm
by timo the soulforged
Asshaul wrote:
Hi! Are you Jens? Really?
u replied a bit late so i don't think he-jens will reply!!! :)

Re: Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 10:53 pm
by MAJINDIEGO
Asshaul wrote:
Hi! Are you Jens? Really?
nops...he´s just a moron that came after me and stole my name...i´m the real Jens, if you care to know...
:lol:

Re: Re: Re: I thought I had seen everything!

Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 2:07 am
by Silhouetto Of A Madm
timo the soulforged wrote:
Asshaul wrote:
Hi! Are you Jens? Really?
u replied a bit late so i don't think he-jens will reply!!! :)
You mean *sniff* Jens is gone? :( :~( =P