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...for electing this jerk and making us swallow this up for another fucking 4 years...
No excuse this time, no excuse. May God protect us all (specially US).

C'mon, this was the choice of american people. If they want this guy to be their president, so let it be ... You make it sound like he's some sort of devil or something ...

Shurik wrote:C'mon, this was the choice of american people. If they want this guy to be their president, so let it be ... You make it sound like he's some sort of devil or something ...

.................Actually...............He is...........

Shurik wrote:C'mon, this was the choice of american people. If they want this guy to be their president, so let it be ... You make it sound like he's some sort of devil or something ...

Well, as far as the American domestic policy goes, if those guys wants Bush, then whatever, it's not me who'll have to endure that for four more years. Don't come crying to me when the supreme court overturns Roe v. Wade and "Patriot Act III: Gonna party like it's 1984" comes into effect!
What is of concern to me, however, is the utter lack of respect for the environment the Bush administration has shown, which WILL affect all of us on this planet, whether we'd had the chance to vote or not. I'm talking about the industrial lobby in the US writing the environmental policy for the Bush administration.
America's future generations will be ones of blindness and mental retardedness due to the high levels of mercury in American women. Of course I know America is not the only country guilty of pollution, but it is without doubt one of the larger contributors, if not the largest. And Clinton was actually trying to do something about it, rather than succumbing to the lobbyists who couldn't give a shit about the environment.

Equinox wrote:

Shurik wrote:C'mon, this was the choice of american people. If they want this guy to be their president, so let it be ... You make it sound like he's some sort of devil or something ...

.................Actually...............He is...........

yes is the most supid devil of all

and the choice of the american people is somebody who wants to kill us all because we're not american and we dont think like him o them whatever

Stratovarious wrote:

Equinox wrote:

Shurik wrote:C'mon, this was the choice of american people. If they want this guy to be their president, so let it be ... You make it sound like he's some sort of devil or something ...

.................Actually...............He is...........

yes is the most supid devil of all

and the choice of the american people is somebody who wants to kill us all because we're not american and we dont think like him o them whatever

Proportions, people, proportions ... Saddam Hussein could be called a devil, Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler too, but Bush? No one wants to kill you, you can sleep well ...

Shurik wrote:C'mon, this was the choice of american people. If they want this guy to be their president, so let it be ...

Hey wait a minute. I didn't want him to be president. Anyone with a three digit IQ doesn't want him to be president.

This is obvious from the chart. The Bush areas are rural, backwater, fuck-your-sister podunkville states, whereas those who voted for Kerry are major industrial, culturally diverse and aware areas who often have several universities.

I can't believe they want to make abortion illegal, but still allow every person to vote. Some people do not need to be voting. In fact, a lot of people don't.

What's really sad and kind of sick is that i am going to laugh (no, i really am) when we get attacked again. And this time i hope it's actually significant. I hope a lot of stupid fat conformist people die. I hope they attack Palm Beach. I hope i am killed in this attack. No one would notice, but maybe some people would put flags on their cars. That would be really fucking nice.

I am so embarassed by my country. I am leaving. I can't stand this anymore. Who needs a roommate?? MajinDiego? NordicStorm? Anyone?

HvyMtlClickWitch wrote:Hey wait a minute. I didn't want him to be president. Anyone with a three digit IQ doesn't want him to be president.

This is obvious from the chart. The Bush areas are rural, backwater, fuck-your-sister podunkville states, whereas those who voted for Kerry are major industrial, culturally diverse and aware areas who often have several universities.

I can't believe they want to make abortion illegal, but still allow every person to vote. Some people do not need to be voting. In fact, a lot of people don't.

What's really sad and kind of sick is that i am going to laugh (no, i really am) when we get attacked again. And this time i hope it's actually significant. I hope a lot of stupid fat conformist people die. I hope they attack Palm Beach. I hope i am killed in this attack. No one would notice, but maybe some people would put flags on their cars. That would be really fucking nice.

The only flag I put anywhere was on my driveway with a lit lit match stuck to it. That's what I think everyone should do in protest. Bush had the christian and redneck vote and meantime, the blacks, Native Americans and gay people were getting hassled at the polls by republicans. I am absolutely sick about gay marriage getting banned because I have a lot of gay friends who I feel should be able to marry legally. I think next time, binLaden needs to fine tune his attack more on Bush and christianity.
I can't believe that the question for abortion was even on the ballot. That should be a totally personal choice for a woman. In Florida there was an Amendment on the ballot saying that if a girl under age 18 wants to have an abortion that her parents have to be informed. I voted a firm NO to that because with these rednecks fucking their own daughters, sisters and nieces, these girls need to be able to get it taken care of without any hassle. It's better if they get rid of it - the last thing we need is more inbreeds in this world.

You know what's even funnier? I heard on the news Bush somewhat AGAIN cheated his way into Office!

The Republicans used the gay marriage ban as a tool to win the votes of the extremeist Christians, who made up a large portion of the swinging voters. By having them to vote for Bush, Kerry got robbed of his Presidancy!

I do SO hope OBL comes to wipe his ass in your faces again!
Just like I did back then on 9/11, I will be laughing my ass off if he does, coz you certainly deserve it!

yes.......he did cheat again. At MANY precincts, they used these new touch screen voting machines. Well guess what.......in more than a great many cases, people who touched the icon for Kerry see that their vote registered for Bush. I know people this happened to and I even witnessed it at my own voting precinct. I refused to use the machine and demanded a paper ballot, which they HAD to give me. There was a hotline to call to report "voting problems" and the circuits were jam packed. But oh no, come news time, it got swept under the carpet. This morning at 8am, Edwards was all over TV madder than a skinhead at the Notting Hill carnival vowing that they will fight this election result and they had hired lawyers, etc. Come 11am, Kerry concedes like a lamb saying "oh, we don't want to make trouble" Now YOU tell ME - is something not fucked up with that?

Read the (uncensored) transcript of binLaden's video and tell me if he attacked without more than valid reason

And dude, hate the regime and its supporters, don't hate someone just because of their nationality - that would make you a kindred spirit with Bush.

Agent Orange wrote:I do SO hope OBL comes to wipe his ass in your faces again!
Just like I did back then on 9/11, I will be laughing my ass off if he does, coz you certainly deserve it!

You're not serious, are you?

Shurik wrote:

Stratovarious wrote:

Equinox wrote:

Shurik wrote:C'mon, this was the choice of american people. If they want this guy to be their president, so let it be ... You make it sound like he's some sort of devil or something ...

.................Actually...............He is...........

yes is the most supid devil of all

and the choice of the american people is somebody who wants to kill us all because we're not american and we dont think like him o them whatever

Proportions, people, proportions ... Saddam Hussein could be called a devil, Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler too, but Bush? No one wants to kill you, you can sleep well ...

I was talking with exageration with a purpose, just to explain in a simple way what is the bush modus operandin just grow in power is not a reason to kill people even when I think that saddam is a real devil but fight a war over suspictions for me is not enouhg

Babylon wrote:

Agent Orange wrote:I do SO hope OBL comes to wipe his ass in your faces again!
Just like I did back then on 9/11, I will be laughing my ass off if he does, coz you certainly deserve it!

You're not serious, are you?

Yeah u hafta be kidding me..........i live in NY, and if OBL attack again, i bet it'll with A-Bomb, and it'll surely wipe-off this city, including me, but if weather case that he attack another city, place, or whatever, YES i would be happy, 'cuz then the people will awake from their dream, their red dream. and see the weakness of this country.

And yes, im wating for the next OBL attack.

Equinox wrote:

Babylon wrote:

Agent Orange wrote:I do SO hope OBL comes to wipe his ass in your faces again!
Just like I did back then on 9/11, I will be laughing my ass off if he does, coz you certainly deserve it!

You're not serious, are you?

Yeah u hafta be kidding me..........i live in NY, and if OBL attack again, i bet it'll with A-Bomb, and it'll surely wipe-off this city, including me, but if weather case that he attack another city, place, or whatever, YES i would be happy, 'cuz then the people will awake from their dream, their red dream. and see the weakness of this country.

And yes, im wating for the next OBL attack.

I am VERY serious about wanting to see the US being hit hard by another terrorist attack, however, I did NOT say it has to be NYC again, I'd be grateful if they didn't miss the White House for a change, preferably with Bush still IN it. Two birds with one blow: you awaken the Americans out of ther Dream, and kill that retard that calls himself President.

Oh, and I don't hate the Americans as people, I got relatives and some friends living there, and they are way better than the anitsocial bastards that seem to reside in my homeland, it's just the way America's politcs works that I don't approve of.

Babylon wrote:

Agent Orange wrote:I do SO hope OBL comes to wipe his ass in your faces again!
Just like I did back then on 9/11, I will be laughing my ass off if he does, coz you certainly deserve it!

You're not serious, are you?

You´re just worried that your ass is on stake now!

HvyMtlClickWitch wrote:What's really sad and kind of sick is that i am going to laugh (no, i really am) when we get attacked again. And this time i hope it's actually significant. I hope a lot of stupid fat conformist people die. I hope they attack Palm Beach. I hope i am killed in this attack. No one would notice, but maybe some people would put flags on their cars. That would be really fucking nice.

I am so embarassed by my country. I am leaving. I can't stand this anymore. Who needs a roommate?? MajinDiego? NordicStorm? Anyone?

Don´t say that!

I sincerely hope US don´t get attacked (even thou everything leads me me to think the other way...), because it will be another excuse for Bush to attack the World...
About being my roomie, feel free to! But i have to warn you that i often talk when i´m sleeping!

He made a mess on his first four years, I hope he spends the next four years to clean it up.

Veripalttu wrote:He made a mess on his first four years, I hope he spends the next four years to clean it up.

too little time, i´m afraid...

Well, if there is another attack, I hope that they focus more on the true source of the problem and zero in on the white house. Get it right this time. And I would not be offended if they took out as many christian landmarks as possible.

Wow, you are all horrible people.
It is the European socialists who think they know whats best for us Americans. It is the European socialists who want human rights for terrorists. It is the European socialists who want Americans to die.

First, you say that you hope Americans die. You hope there is another OBL attack. Fuck you. I guess 9-11 was just a joke for you. I guess you laughted when those children were burned into pieces as the planes flew into the buildings.

And George W. Bush wins the election by 3 million votes, and now there is shit flying around that he cheated.

First, the candidate error:
1) It was not disclosed that all the error was just against Kerry. A few bush supporters lost their votes too.
2) The whole bug affected some 30 people
3) It was a calibration error, not a republican conspiracy, this isn't hollywood
4) Now you are saying that bush cheated? He cheated 3 million people out of their votes? Bullshit. Sore losers, those liberals are.
5)Bush won fairly the first time, for gods sake. Every way and time they counted Florida, he won. So don't spread bullshit, losers.

If Americans vowed for the Finns to burn in hell and get their children blown up, we would be fucked. But you European jackasses can say whatever you want, right?

I want to make a few things clear.
1) There was no cheating in this election
2) Bush won by a significant margin. Maybe he isn't as bad as you might think? Maybe its only a few jackass liberals who talk equal to a 1000 peope might, because they think they are smarter than EVERYBODY?

I leave you with a quote/commentary or two.

"and the choice of the american people is somebody who wants to kill us all because we're not american and we dont think like him o them whatever"

Very clever. You must be mentally retarded.

"I do SO hope OBL comes to wipe his ass in your faces again!
Just like I did back then on 9/11, I will be laughing my ass off if he does, coz you certainly deserve it!"

I know your type, and I hate you.

Allison wrote:Well, if there is another attack, I hope that they focus more on the true source of the problem and zero in on the white house. Get it right this time. And I would not be offended if they took out as many christian landmarks as possible.

Damn, you should really realize that when talking like this you are no better people than the idiots incharge. I'd specificaly like to question the "kill christians" mentality. What brings that on. So ther are a lot of kooks in the office who use religion as a wayt to do what they think is right. that doesnt mean we all support them. Iam a christian and I fully support gay marrage, abortion, and staying the hell outta where we dont belong.

Talking like this with the mentality that all Christians out to destory the happiness of people who dont support them is no different than saying all blacks are criminals or that all jews are money hoarders, or that all hispanics are illigaly in the country, its simply not true.

There's some stuff being said that just goes waaay out of line.

People, chill.

I'm sure nobody, and I mean nobody, meant it that "we would laugh if there was another terrorist attack and a lotta innocent people died".

What I -would- laugh, is if non-innocent people died. Oh, I would, write that down on paper. And I would celebrate it.

fifthtea_sausage wrote:I guess you laughted when those children were burned into pieces as the planes flew into the buildings.

I do not see Osama Bin Laden's terrorism as any worse than George W. Bush's (or Sharon's, for that matter, but Sharon is a different matter, and I give him a bit more reason for what he does. Although I think he's an asshole, and I disagree with him). The main difference between Mr. Osama and Mr. Bush is, Mr. Osama targets innocent people on purpose, while Mr. Bush doesn't. So? Mr. Bush kills more innocent people in a couple of months than Mr. Osama has ever killed.

And I bet they're both laughing right now.

What would really rock would be if instead of the white house, there was a crater. And finito. I could almost be sure that terrorism would really drop to low levels

Also, people, please don't mix things. Christians or religion have nothing, and I mean nothing, to do with this. There is no cruzade, and there is no jihad. I am not a christian, or a muslim, but I bloody fucking know that a conversation loses it's meaning when you start talking about their relation with terrorism and governments. Religion is most times used as simply a cover story for deeper motives.

Oh, and..

fifthtea_sausage wrote:It is the European socialists who want human rights for terrorists.

Hmmmno, if it was up to me they could just be executed without mercy, after a fair trial. But it's to protect the world from people like me that there are laws

I wouldn't want any justice to be applied to Osama, however, if it is not applied to Bush and his mates. They're all terrorists

One minute you say all terrorists should be executed.
Then you say terrorists (osama bin laden) is better than bush.

I just don't have the energy to cope with you people, and I don't want to get banned from this forum, so I'm just going to leave you with a note.

It is easy to go with the flow and attack America, and Bush. To laugh when our children die. Not to support our troops. But it takes some different kind of person to change their perspective a little but. Take a look at the situation from another angle.

Besides, what kind of Terrorist lets the invaded country have a free election?

Besides, it was Congress's decision to go to war with Iraq.

Oh, and one more thing: John Kerry voted to go to war in Iraq. So what now?

Uh.....um.......actually, i would laugh over a major terrorist attack where innocent people were killed. But that's not really political. It's just because i happen to really enjoy fatal disasters, more than most people do, i think.

Oh, and while we're speaking of terrorists, has anyone heard of the School Of The Americas? ? ? ? ? ? Now there's some serious proof that the U.S. government has always been full of shit when it comes to fighting terrorism. I bet that Stratovarious and MajinDiego have heard of it...

But i digress. Allison, i was not aware that you live in florida. Some of the crap on that ballot was horrendous!!!! What about that high-speed train we voted 'yes' on four years ago?? Not bad enough that they didn't even start building it, but can you believe they were having us vote on repealing that? ? ? ? ? ? ? God forbid we ever do something good for mass transportation.

Ahem, anyway.....

I leave you with a quote/commentary or two.

fifthtea_sausage wrote:Fuck you. I guess 9-11 was just a joke for you. I guess you laughted when those children were burned into pieces as the planes flew into the buildings.

Yes, i did laughted when all those children who were working their desk jobs at the WTC were spontaneously combusted.

fifthtea_sausage wrote:"and the choice of the american people is somebody who wants to kill us all because we're not american and we dont think like him o them whatever"

Very clever. You must be mentally retarded.

Very clever, to insult someone who's not a native English speaker. You must be a newbie. *glances* Oh, ten posts. What a great introduction to the stratoforum.

My days of activism are over. There is no hope.

Uh.....um.......actually, i would laugh over a major terrorist attack where innocent people were killed. But that's not really political. It's just because i happen to really enjoy fatal disasters, more than most people do, i think.

Proving what? You're immature, and most likely a child.

Oh, and while we're speaking of terrorists, has anyone heard of the School Of The Americas? ? ? ? ? ? Now there's some serious proof that the U.S. government has always been full of shit when it comes to fighting terrorism.

What the hell are you talking about? Besides, everyone knows how liberal the schools in America are.

Not bad enough that they didn't even start building it, but can you believe they were having us vote on repealing that

You can thank the democrats for that. They are afraid that it will cause a mushroom to die somewhere in the south pacific.

Yes, i did laughted when all those children who were working their desk jobs at the WTC were spontaneously combusted.

The children in the planes. And you, like all liberals, are speculating on the details and missing the point.

Very clever, to insult someone who's not a native English speaker. You must be a newbie. *glances* Oh, ten posts. What a great introduction to the stratoforum.

I'm not insulting him for his grammer. Its for his paranoia.

My days of activism are over. There is no hope.

Imagine how I feel. Its me versus about 20 radical left wingers/european socialists who think americans are terrorists and that bush cheated on his election. And yet i'm sticking to my guns because I know what I'm saying is right.

fifthtea_sausage wrote:

Uh.....um.......actually, i would laugh over a major terrorist attack where innocent people were killed. But that's not really political. It's just because i happen to really enjoy fatal disasters, more than most people do, i think.

Proving what? You're immature, and most likely a child.

I wasn't aware we had many people comprarable to Methuselah on this board. Seeking to prove nothing, i refuted a universal statement that was made in error. And don't call me immature, or i'll throw food at you.

fifthtea_sausage wrote:What the hell are you talking about? Besides, everyone knows how liberal the schools in America are.

School of the Americas. Not schools of America. It's an institution in Georgia. It used to be located in Panam.....oh, never mind. Here's a protest site.

http://www.soaw.org

Here's an article i wrote quite some time ago.

http://www.angelfire.com/id/emoney/articles/soa.htm

fifthtea_sausage wrote:You can thank the democrats for that. They are afraid that it will cause a mushroom to die somewhere in the south pacific.

i don't care whom i have to thank for it, just lead me to them and i'll wring their fucking necks.

fifthtea_sausage wrote:The children in the planes. And you, like all liberals, are speculating on the details and missing the point.

Jesus Christ, will you stop with the liberal thing? This is really an indication of how polar this nation has become. There's more than two parties. There's more than two views. I just believe what i want to believe. Politics and Social Politics aren't some kind of religion where you have to believe everything that's written and preached to you.

fifthtea_sausage wrote:I'm not insulting him for his grammer. Its for his paranoia.

Apologies. *Kicks self* I feel like a real loser.

fifthtea_sausage wrote:Imagine how I feel. Its me versus about 20 radical left wingers/european socialists who think americans are terrorists and that bush cheated on his election. And yet i'm sticking to my guns because I know what I'm saying is right.

I'm still a little lost on this whole socialist thing. I'm not sure why you keep referring to Europeans as socialists. There are no socialist countries in Europe. In fact, there have never been. The Socialist party took power in France, once, but even then it wasn't a Socialist country. If things must be polarized, perhaps a better term would be "leftist" than "socialist". I mean, how would you like it if I insisted on calling you a "Prohibitionist" simply because you might hold right-wing viewpoints?

I never said Bush was elected through cheating. Maybe he was, but all evidences are leading to a fair election.

fifthtea_sausage wrote:One minute you say all terrorists should be executed.
Then you say terrorists (osama bin laden) is better than bush.

Jeez. Read what I wrote again.

Twilight Legionnaire wrote:Hmmmno, if it was up to me they could just be executed without mercy, after a fair trial. But it's to protect the world from people like me that there are laws

I wouldn't want any justice to be applied to Osama, however, if it is not applied to Bush and his mates. They're all terrorists

Self-explanatory I believe.

fifthtea_sausage wrote:What the hell are you talking about? Besides, everyone knows how liberal the schools in America are.

This is completely off topic, but I couldn't help but to smile at that sentence. I wonder how many people will say I'm a heretic or something if I mention Darwin?

fifthtea_sausage wrote:Wow, you are all horrible people.
It is the European socialists who think they know whats best for us Americans. It is the European socialists who want human rights for terrorists. It is the European socialists who want Americans to die.

How the hell did you get communist into it?

First, you say that you hope Americans die. You hope there is another OBL attack. Fuck you. I guess 9-11 was just a joke for you. I guess you laughted when those children were burned into pieces as the planes flew into the buildings.

None is justified, both were stupidity, but make an affort to think of those babies killed in the Iraq attack

1) There was no cheating in this election

who´s saying he cheated? I´m pissed because Bush is a fucking asshole. That´s it. And most americans too, because they voted for him, leading me to believe they think about their asses only (not all of them, but majority)

"and the choice of the american people is somebody who wants to kill us all because we're not american and we dont think like him o them whatever"

You may have simplified it, but as you seem to be an empty-minded, not aware of international common policies and international law, tell me Bush is giving a fuck about others non-americans...
Europe is not right either, and nor south america...but at least we don´t carry our missthoughts to carnage.

It is the European socialists who think they know whats best for us Americans. It is the European socialists who want human rights for terrorists. It is the European socialists who want Americans to die.

I kinda agree with this guy, except of "they want all americans to die". Those people don't want anyone to die, they want everyone to think like they do and those who don't want to think like them are automaticly labeled as warmongers and idiots.

Wake up people, islamic extremism and terror are real, it's not something Bush made up to invade Afghanistan or Iraq. Terror existed long before he could point Iraq on the map (I doubt he knows it now, but that the whole different subject) and the only way to deal with islamic extremism and terror is by force. Tree-hugging and flower-growing won't help ...

Shurik wrote: I kinda agree with this guy, except of "they want all americans to die". Those people don't want anyone to die, they want everyone to think like they do and those who don't want to think like them are automaticly labeled as warmongers and idiots.

Yes, the other side would never do such a thing! The other side is open-minded and accepting of all viewpoints! Now excuse while I'll go have some freedom fries.
Don't be a hypocrite. First you lambast people for labelling someone as warmongerer, and then you start talking about tree-hugging and flower-growing.

Furthermore, attacking Afghanistan is one thing, and Iraq another. Bush has failed at doing either properly or with much success.
The same warlords who controlled much of Afghanistan are still in power, while US forces controls Kabul. Then they hold this nice little sham election, and suddenly Afghanistan is a democracy. Yeah right.
And then we have Iraq, which is a quagmire from beginning to end. Not enough troops, insurgents controlling large parts of the country, not to mention the small fact that that whole war was started on faulty intelligence. You are not going to win this "war on terrorism" if you can't even attack the right country. What about Iran? What about Saudi-Arabia (15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis. Coincidence? I think not.)?

MAJINDIEGO wrote:

1) There was no cheating in this election

who´s saying he cheated? I´m pissed because Bush is a fucking asshole. That´s it. And most americans too, because they voted for him, leading me to believe they think about their asses only (not all of them, but majority)

It was actually a pretty close race on the popluar vote (not that popular matters) The problem is ther eis more rednecks and radical rightwings (kinda go hand in hand) then there is people with half a brain. I dont know about other states, but EVERYONE in California wanted Kery to come out on top. MOstly because of A.) the great ethnic diversity here and 2.) The fact that most of the people here are intellengent, which you have to be to survive in such a costly place as this.

Again it all comes back to taking away the rednecks rights to vote. I mean hey why not this votes require a family tree with atleast ... 4 ... branches to vote