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Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:02 pm
by MAJINDIEGO
So, let's see who's the greatest Helloween Guitarrist of all times...
Easy choice for me...Kai Hansen with his geniality and creativity wins easily.
What about you guys?
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:29 pm
by Gnosis_and_Life
KAI HANSEN of course! Master, not only on guitar playing, but in composing and singing too!
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:24 am
by Spacecake
Umm... how am I supposed to answer using that list?
But the best guitarist is Weiki. I like his style, there are a lot rock influences to it. I like his sound too. Grapow had (and still has) too flat sound...
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:56 pm
by Mormegil
Technically Roland Grapow for sure, but I still prefer Michael Weikath's playing.
Gnosis_and_Life wrote:KAI HANSEN of course! Master, not only on guitar playing, but in composing and singing too!
...And in stealing lyrics and melodies from Judas Priest. No matter what others say, I'm quite happy Hansen isn't in the band anymore.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:50 pm
by Elazul
Kai Hansen and Michael Weikath !
I only say Keeper 1 & Keeper 2
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 5:50 pm
by Shurik
Kai Hansen
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:29 pm
by MAJINDIEGO
Mormegil wrote:Technically Roland Grapow for sure, but I still prefer Michael Weikath's playing.
Gnosis_and_Life wrote:KAI HANSEN of course! Master, not only on guitar playing, but in composing and singing too!
...And in stealing lyrics and melodies from Judas Priest. No matter what others say, I'm quite happy Hansen isn't in the band anymore.
I can't believe you bought that shit.....
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:15 am
by Gnosis_and_Life
Mormegil wrote:Gnosis_and_Life wrote:KAI HANSEN of course! Master, not only on guitar playing, but in composing and singing too!
...And in stealing lyrics and melodies from Judas Priest. No matter what others say,
I'm quite happy Hansen isn't in the band anymore.
Well, I'm quite happy too, I'd say, really happy, because we have Gamma Ray now!
Long live Hansen!
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 7:32 am
by tkbdadsgshim
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:20 pm
by Mormegil
MAJINDIEGO wrote:Mormegil wrote:Technically Roland Grapow for sure, but I still prefer Michael Weikath's playing.
Gnosis_and_Life wrote:KAI HANSEN of course! Master, not only on guitar playing, but in composing and singing too!
...And in stealing lyrics and melodies from Judas Priest. No matter what others say, I'm quite happy Hansen isn't in the band anymore.
I can't believe you bought that shit.....
.........what?
Just listen Judas Priest and notice it youself. (Victim Of Fate's intro = Breaking The Law's intro (that can't be accident), Heart Of The Unicorn's vocal lines = Painkiller's vocal lines etc, etc. Also many similarities to other bands).
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:51 pm
by MAJINDIEGO
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:30 pm
by Mormegil
But Hansen seems to stole stuff directly and on purpose without even adding anything own into it.
And don't get me wrong, I like Victim Of Fate a lot, especially Michael Kiske -version on The Best The Rest The Rare. I just told that the intro (which is partly also repeated during the chorus, so it's not only 5 seconds) is plagiarized.
Of course Hansen has done some very kick ass songs to Helloween, like Halloween, Twilight Of The Gods and Murderer, but somehow I've always liked for exaple Weikath's songs much better.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:08 pm
by Alexi
Id say weiki with his malboros.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 11:12 pm
by gon
Weiki.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:43 am
by Tetsuo
I went for Kai but I hesitated a lot between him and Roland...the guy is a kickass guitar player! And has anybody heard him sing on the High Live DVD...he's so good...
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:03 am
by Babylon
gon wrote:Weiki.
Hell yes
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:11 pm
by StratoRico
i don't like too much the style of making solos of helloween guitarists,but i think that the best is Roland Grapow.
i would have said kai hansen,but in terms of composition.
I think he's a good guitar player,but not a monster like Romeo,Tolkki,Loureiro or Petrucci...
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:33 pm
by Florian
This topic is quite old but I can't help talking on threads about my favorite band.
I voted for Kai Hansen who is still my favorite. Roland Grapow is the best technically but I love Kai's songs like March Of Time, I Want Out, Halloween and more. I like Weiki, he often writes good songs, even if he's a little bit grumpy
And finally, I don't really like Sascha Gerstner, he wrote a few good songs, but we must wait to say more about him.
So finally Kai is still my favorite, but I'm a little disapointed about the 3 last Gamma Ray albums.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 12:07 am
by NeverendingAbyss
It's a bit tough, but KAI!
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 2:53 am
by Ragehead91
I have to say Grapow.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 3:17 am
by Babylon
Florian wrote: And finally, I don't really like Sascha Gerstner, he wrote a few good songs, but we must wait to say more about him.
I think Sascha is actually pretty good, especially live.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 8:16 am
by hiro23
This one is way too hard, I love all the guitarists in helloween and I really can't choose.
I think each guitarist worked or works for each era they were in.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 8:57 am
by Florian
Babylon wrote:Florian wrote: And finally, I don't really like Sascha Gerstner, he wrote a few good songs, but we must wait to say more about him.
I think Sascha is actually pretty good, especially live.
He is very good technically, almost as good as Roland, but I think Sascha must write more songs to show what he can do. He wrote an excellent song, The Invisible Man, so I think he can write more songs like this.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 3:49 pm
by Ragehead91
Florian wrote:Babylon wrote:Florian wrote: And finally, I don't really like Sascha Gerstner, he wrote a few good songs, but we must wait to say more about him.
I think Sascha is actually pretty good, especially live.
He is very good technically, almost as good as Roland, but I think Sascha must write more songs to show what he can do. He wrote an excellent song, The Invisible Man, so I think he can write more songs like this.
He wrote some great stuff on the Gambling Album.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:20 pm
by Babylon
Ragehead91 wrote:Florian wrote:Babylon wrote:Florian wrote: And finally, I don't really like Sascha Gerstner, he wrote a few good songs, but we must wait to say more about him.
I think Sascha is actually pretty good, especially live.
He is very good technically, almost as good as Roland, but I think Sascha must write more songs to show what he can do. He wrote an excellent song, The Invisible Man, so I think he can write more songs like this.
He wrote some great stuff on the Gambling Album.
Oh yea, Dreambound's become one of my favorite Helloween songs ever.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 9:32 pm
by Polaris
Kai Hansen is a great composer but as guitarrist Roland was the best!
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:24 pm
by stratoplayer
Polaris wrote:Kai Hansen is a great composer but as guitarrist Roland was the best!
I like Saschas sound more, and he is more creative in his solos. Though Weiki (along with Grosskopf) is the soul of Helloween
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:31 pm
by Ragehead91
stratoplayer wrote:Polaris wrote:Kai Hansen is a great composer but as guitarrist Roland was the best!
I like Saschas sound more, and he is more creative in his solos. Though Weiki (along with Grosskopf) is the soul of Helloween
Those 2 are also the last original members (If you leave out the time when the band was called Secund Hell, Gentry and so on)
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:06 pm
by hiro23
Helloween like many other bands I love I tend to think of in era's, each one being very good in a different way, there's the Kai hansen era 1985-1989,The commercial era 1989-1994,The Roland Grapow and Uli Kusch era(I know Roland came in before this however I believe this is the era he really showed us what he was made of)1994-2001, and finally the current era 2003-????
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:33 am
by icecab21
wtf was the person thinking who said victom of fate was the riff from breaking the law? The guitar playing in those two riffs is definitly not the same.