The Pope's Health

Neorave · Post by **Neorave** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:16 pm

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... nm/pope_dc

How sad...the Pope is probably gonna be gone soon...

...so...this is kind of pathetic (and downright wrong), but what date do you think he's gonna die?

C'mon, PLACE YOUR BETS...

I say he'll be gone midweek, 2nd week of April.

cliff · Post by **cliff** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:27 pm

This topic is pathetic.
This poor man is suffering, between life and death between many years, and you consider it like a game. only a bet. And medias always talk about it "he is doing better"... "he is doing worse"... Poor man, let him rest in peace.

Sknight2112 · Post by **Sknight2112** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:11 pm

I think they should have a long time ago. It seems almost an insult to the faith to have kept him alive like they have, for such a devote man i see no reason why he would want to stay past his time especially in the manner he is.

Agent Orange · Post by **Agent Orange** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:48 pm

Someone should do something about the cruelty of the Catholic Church for letting a human being waste away like this.

Pope for life is one thing if you're fit and able to move around, but the poor guy can't move, let alone speak. Why not let him die and stop patching him up, hoping he'll pull through? It's not like he's gonna jump up and run around the Vatican.

I hope he dies soon, so that his suffering will come to an end. No human being should undergo this sort of punishment, no matter what your role in this world is.

dupinguez · Post by **dupinguez** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:56 pm

It may sound stupid to you because i don't know a lot about catholic news but maybe they keep him alive because no one is able to take his place after his death...

MAJINDIEGO · Post by **MAJINDIEGO** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:16 pm

Well...but who´s forcing him to still be pope? I see no guns pointed at him, do you? And he doesn´t force himself too much by being a pope. It´s not like he has to run around and stuff...i mean, it´s a touch routine, but that doesn´t emply that he would be playing football if he had dropt out. You guys have to keep in mind that he´s old, and after he had been shot, his health have never the same. I think he´s the one that doesn´t want to give in, and it´s like a self-sacrifice...admirable.

Stratovarious · Post by **Stratovarious** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:42 pm

he was a man like everyone of us but with just one difference..he did something thath none of us will ever do ...so rest in peace lonely man!!!

MAJINDIEGO · Post by **MAJINDIEGO** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:56 pm

Geez dude, you talk like he´s dead already...

cliff · Post by **cliff** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:01 pm

MAJINDIEGO wrote:Geez dude, you talk like he´s dead already...

Actually, the italian medias said that he has just passed away.
Anyway, I'm really sick and tired of all those things. "his health is doing better" "he is almost dead", "he had a heart operation last night". I really feel like we're all watching a stupid TV reality show.
People and medias have no dignity. Let this poor man die in peace.
Jean Paul, see you !

Stratovarious · Post by **Stratovarious** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:09 pm

WELL THE PRESS SAID THAT HE PASSED AWAY, BUT THE VATICAN IS SAYING ALREADY THE OPPOSITE..BUT WELL...HE'S ALREADY ROUND THE CORNER....OR NOT?....AND NO MATTER WHAT SOME PEOPLE SAID HE WAS A GREAT MAN...I'M NOT CATHOLIC....BUT I RESPECT SOME THINGS...
I'M NOT AGREE WITH CATHOLIC CHURCH...IN A LOT OF WAYS ...BUT THIS MAN IS THE EXEPTION TO THE RULE

dupinguez · Post by **dupinguez** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:36 am

If you respect him so much so wait for some TRUE news about his death or life before wishing him peace

Stealth · Post by **Stealth** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:23 am

I'm not catholic, and even though I have no problem with catholics, I can't say that the Pope was a great man... I have nothing against catholics in general, I just don't like the Pope in particular. Too conservative, and many people say he made great sacrifices in different trips around the world, but the truth is that he spent most of his life in the Vatican surrounded by wealth. Also, I really don't see the point in keeping him alive in such a bad shape... after all, according to his own belief, he's going to heaven, where all the suffering ends and paradise begins... so wouldn't it be better for him to stop this worldly suffering and enter paradise? I'm atheist and I don't believe in heaven and hell, but I'm trying to put myself in his shoes. If I would believe in heaven, I would rather stop suffering here and reach the eternal paradise.

Stratovarious · Post by **Stratovarious** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:08 am

Stealth wrote: I really don't see the point in keeping him alive in such a bad shape... after all, according to his own belief, he's going to heaven

in that point we are totally agree stealth...its awful what are they doing with him,I'm not trying to say that catholic church getting some advance of his death ...everything is weird just that..cause the press say something anda the vatican is telling another thing and keeps thousand of people at the gates of that house without any idea about reality

Equinox · Post by **Equinox** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:23 am

I don't really care about his health, HE IS NOT GOD EVEN IF PPL ADORE HIM MORE THAN GOD HIMSELF and I hate that! the Italians and the whole world is just talking about the Pope, and nothing 'bout God, nothing! they go to the church and pray for the Pope, but I bet they don't thank about they're lives.

It'll be the same for me if he dies, I hope he does, and I hope the damn false messiah dies soon too, I am tired of those bullshits.

And the same for Terri Schiavo and Selena.

neonlightchild · Post by **neonlightchild** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:37 am

Agent Orange wrote:Someone should do something about the cruelty of the Catholic Church for letting a human being waste away like this.

Pope for life is one thing if you're fit and able to move around, but the poor guy can't move, let alone speak. Why not let him die and stop patching him up, hoping he'll pull through? It's not like he's gonna jump up and run around the Vatican.

I hope he dies soon, so that his suffering will come to an end. No human being should undergo this sort of punishment, no matter what your role in this world is.

I'm wordless...you said it all...amen for that

Twilight Legionnaire · Post by **Twilight Legionnaire** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:52 am

The fact is, the suffering of the pope is extremely good propaganda for the Church. And I doubt anyone will dare to directly attack the Catholic Church for this, they'll just say that it was the Pope's will to resist 'till the end.

Such is the world we live in

The church haven't changed their ideals since 600 years ago, they just changed their methods.

khamael · Post by **khamael** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:19 pm

Neorave wrote:http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... nm/pope_dc

How sad...the Pope is probably gonna be gone soon...

...so...this is kind of pathetic (and downright wrong), but what date do you think he's gonna die? C'mon, PLACE YOUR BETS...

I say he'll be gone midweek, 2nd week of April.

i'm not a catholic fan, but like Cliff said this topic is pathetic.

I'm starting to think that you are stupid.

silgol · Post by **silgol** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:46 pm

Actually I think that the pope the vatican show us last weeks was a animatronic hahaha. Sorry, it was a bad joke.

well, like many of us there, I´m not catholic, but the last images of the pope agonizing at the window of the vatican were scaring. But I made myself one question... the pope is still alive because of the vatican´s interests, or only because the pope himself does not want to yet? What kind of interest can hacve the vatican to keep him alive? I´m sure that many "motherfuckers" (it´s my opinion) are waitin hungry to keep the place of the last pope..., ther can´ñt be more interests to keep him alive.

Agent Orange · Post by **Agent Orange** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:45 pm

dupinguez wrote:It may sound stupid to you because i don't know a lot about catholic news but maybe they keep him alive because no one is able to take his place after his death...

You really think they're not prepared for a thing like this? They've already settled who'll be his successor once he dies, they just keep it a secret until he is truly gone.

NeonVomit · Post by **NeonVomit** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:21 pm

For a man that has been through so much in his life (TWO assassination attempts) he wants to die in a brave way, hence refusing to go to hospital. He's trying to set an example to many people all around the world about what bravery in pain means.

ciruelo · Post by **ciruelo** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:54 pm

Agent Orange wrote:
dupinguez wrote:It may sound stupid to you because i don't know a lot about catholic news but maybe they keep him alive because no one is able to take his place after his death...
You really think they're not prepared for a thing like this? They've already settled who'll be his successor once he dies, they just keep it a secret until he is truly gone.

the decicion of who's the next pope is made by election like a month later of the pope's death

and for the people who con't know, the euthanasia is not one of the thinks that the church aprove... so they just CAN'T let the pope die

Sknight2112 · Post by **Sknight2112** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:56 pm

ciruelo wrote:
the decicion of who's the next pope is made by election like a month later of the pope's death

http://www.cockeyed.com/archive/sleep_n ... _pope.html

latest polls for his replacement

ciruelo · Post by **ciruelo** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:00 pm

jajaj

gandalf pope!! gandal pope!!!

Equinox · Post by **Equinox** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:24 pm

khamael wrote:
Neorave wrote:http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... nm/pope_dc

How sad...the Pope is probably gonna be gone soon...

...so...this is kind of pathetic (and downright wrong), but what date do you think he's gonna die? C'mon, PLACE YOUR BETS...

I say he'll be gone midweek, 2nd week of April.

i'm not a catholic fan, but like Cliff said this topic is pathetic.

I'm starting to think that you are stupid.

No Khamael, he is not stupid, this is not pahetic, we're just wishing the dead of some man......we all do that in one point of another in our lives.....

But anyway, I hope that he dies soon, along with the Catholic Church and all that bullshit.

khamael · Post by **khamael** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:02 pm

It's stupid to place "bets" on men's death date...

Lets place bets on the next Tsunami, killing thousands of persons...

Anyway the Pope is died so...

Btw i'm against the most of religons, i dont think catholicism is the religion Jesus wanted, and had in his mind...anyway...

Btw, i'm curious Equinox...who is the false messiah?

ciruelo · Post by **ciruelo** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:07 pm

the pope is deadd... he just died

Equinox · Post by **Equinox** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:02 pm

khamael wrote:It's stupid to place "bets" on men's death date...

Lets place bets on the next Tsunami, killing thousands of persons...

Anyway the Pope is died so...

Btw i'm against the most of religons, i dont think catholicism is the religion Jesus wanted, and had in his mind...anyway...

Btw, i'm curious Equinox...who is the false messiah?

The false messiah is the false religion, that is up to u, is there is "right" religion u should discover it by reading the Bible. . . . . . u'll find which one is the original there.......

He's dead......Requiescat in pace.

His Curriculum vitae has ended.

Asamandra · Post by **Asamandra** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:13 pm

My family is very catholic and i even had a bishop under my relatives...
I for myself don´t believe in anything, but this is another thing.

What the pope did was his way to understand "serving".
He did it till the end and I think he deserves respect, even if I don´t agree with church and his oldfashioned believes.

It´s up to the new pope to make a lot of changes, it´s up to him if Equinox wishes come true or not.
If nothing changes the catholic church goes under. This is my opinion.
In austria there was rapid going back of people which go to church.
Even more rapid this year because of some scandals.
We´ll see...

Patricia · Post by **Patricia** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:23 pm

I'm agree with you Cliff!!!!

Equinox · Post by **Equinox** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:27 pm

Wishes? what wishes lady?

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