Sad news
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so.it must have something do with the olympics....
It's sad, but how the hell wouldn't these terrorism acts happend when ourselves hurt the ones we love?!?!Dave wrote:still i can't unterstand why people do that..:
exactly. yes, this is the truth. we can stop sending troops to iraq, afghanistan and other countries, those terrorists won´t stop.Shurik wrote:To Stealth: The explosions have nothing to do with Iraq war, islamic terrorism existed before Iraq (9/11, for those who forgot, was before Iraq and Afghanistan) and will exist as long as it is financed by Saudis and other rich arab countries ... It has nothing to do with politics, it's purely religious terrorism and Iraq war is just a cover, just to give an excuse to something insane as blowing up a bus in the middle of London ...
You are right in many things. But you are still missing something very important.Stealth wrote:To say that terrorism has nothing to do with politics and that it is purely a religious thing is insane. That is a completely biased point of view, and in the case of shurik, I can understand where the bias comes from considering he lives in Israel. If it has nothing to do with politics, then why "terrorists" never attack, let's say, African countries? Or South American countries? Or Asian countries? Trust me, if it were purely a religious thing, they wouldn't discriminate. In the name of religion, they would attack almost any country. If they wanted to impose or defend Islam at any cost, they could start by attacking weaker countries and occupying, for example, Ethiopia, Mongolia, Myanmar, etc. Funny thing how they only attack countries that were somehow involved with Arab countries in political affairs. The problem is that people don't try to understand their motives (and I'm not saying I agree with their measures); they are simply labeled as insane and that's it. And what about western terrorism? Do you think it doesn't exist? Western terrorism is disguised, but it is there, believe me (including the killing of Chile's Salvador Allende, the massacre of East Timor, the sponsorship of military governments in Argentina, etc.). But I'm sure no one will call the people who were responsible "insane". Oh and let's not forget about American support of the Taliban during the war between Afghanistan and Russia. The Taliban were always the bad guys, however, American politicians were never considered too bad for supporting them. People have such short memories...
Ok, what are their goals, if you say they have political reasons to blow up buses? What one can hope to achieve by blowing up a bus in the middle of London? Definitely not pity or compassion or solidarity with his problems ...Stealth wrote:To say that terrorism has nothing to do with politics and that it is purely a religious thing is insane. That is a completely biased point of view, and in the case of shurik, I can understand where the bias comes from considering he lives in Israel. If it has nothing to do with politics, then why "terrorists" never attack, let's say, African countries? Or South American countries? Or Asian countries? Trust me, if it were purely a religious thing, they wouldn't discriminate. In the name of religion, they would attack almost any country. If they wanted to impose or defend Islam at any cost, they could start by attacking weaker countries and occupying, for example, Ethiopia, Mongolia, Myanmar, etc. Funny thing how they only attack countries that were somehow involved with Arab countries in political affairs. The problem is that people don't try to understand their motives (and I'm not saying I agree with their measures); they are simply labeled as insane and that's it. And what about western terrorism? Do you think it doesn't exist? Western terrorism is disguised, but it is there, believe me (including the killing of Chile's Salvador Allende, the massacre of East Timor, the sponsorship of military governments in Argentina, etc.). But I'm sure no one will call the people who were responsible "insane". Oh and let's not forget about American support of the Taliban during the war between Afghanistan and Russia. The Taliban were always the bad guys, however, American politicians were never considered too bad for supporting them. People have such short memories...
Aah, but Shurik, what makes you think there's a difference between religious and political reasons? Religion is power. Just ask the Catholic church of the Middle Ages.Shurik wrote:Ok, what are their goals, if you say they have political reasons to blow up buses? What one can hope to achieve by blowing up a bus in the middle of London?
Heh, but would we even know if they attacked in those countries? I don't think CNN knows Mongolia exists...Why are they not attacking Mongolia or Ethiopia? Why bother if you have a stronger enemy (western countries) where you can show those crusaders that islamic warriors are still strong?
I'm sure GB/Northern Ireland are well aware of that already...(nevermind of course that the Judeochristian God is actually the same as Allah, but that's a minor point)Sorry to wake you up from your dreams but there are still people in this world that think that if you believe in different god, you don't deserve to live ...
Which is why Iraq was such an idiotic undertaking in the first place - without enough resources to actually "win the peace" and by diverting the limited resources there was from Afghanistan and without any links to Al-Qaeda and their ilk in the first place, it has done squat to make the world a safer place. Or combat terrorism, for that matter.Western countries did lots of disgraceful and shameful things, like colonialism or more recently - war in Yugoslavia and going to Iraq without actually having a plan about what to do after the war, but nothing can justify terrorism.